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DiabeticShitheadPhil said:
Oh my fuck, him fucking up crouch jumping was incredible. How he managed to make it to 35 without accidentally killing himself is beyond me.
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:powerlevel:Last night I almost choked on a piece of meat that I didn't chew enough but puked it out last minute.:powerlevel:

I don't wish that in anyone but maybe Phil wouldn't mind eating more meat in the future.
 
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TheyCallItNPD said:
I thought 'engagement' meant the same thing as retention time = the amount of a video that the viewer watches before clicking away or skipping through.

Youtube's algorithm for promoting and recommending videos has favoured retention time since around 2013. This encourages the content creator to make good content instead of pumping out garbage. You have to make sure that each 'episode' is engaging from start to finish. (Interestingly enough, it is believed that comments, likes and dislikes have almost no effect on the algorithm. It doesn't matter what the audience is saying about your video, as long as they watch most of it).

Phil has never cared in the slightest about engagement/retention. For a while I thought he was genuinely ignorant about Youtube switching to the retention model, but recently I heard Phil say stuff that proves he knows all about it. He just doesn't want to comply. Phil would rather be angry at the 'book-smart' programmers at Google for making a system that doesn't suit Phil, rather than try to make content that suits the system.

I once heard Phil almost literally say: "Why should I have to make engaging content?"

As for the length of his videos, I don't know, it gets complicated. It's true that gamer Youtubers benefitted the most from the engagement model because 25-minute videos are a sweet spot. But if you make 25-minute videos you need to care about making them engaging, and that means editing! Pacing, structure, beginnings and endings! Phil wouldn't get any better retention just by letting his raw kaahntent OBS clips run to 25 minutes.
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He openly admits his videos have boring moments people skip past which leads to lower retention time. He has yet to think of any solution to fix this problem instead pretending, to the detriment of his business, there was "nothing I could do." Dsp just wants it to be 2010 again so he can upload 10 minute clips that make him a lot of money, have friends/fans/girlfriend, and not yet have the wide known negative stigma attached to his name.
 
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JamFlowMan said:
and not yet have the wide known negative stigma attached to his name.
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I honestly don't think he cares about this part. AI think he cares about his money, and his immediate pleasure. So he cares what people think about him only as far as them still watching and donating money. Which is why he immediately rolls over and sells out when he gets complaints, why he will clearly be miserable playing a game and seem to absolutely hate it but still give it a good review, why he's constantly talking out of both sides of his mouth. Because he's a coward with no convictions and just wants to slime his way into short term creature comforts with as little effort as possible.
 
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Taily Puff said:
I honestly don't think he cares about this part. AI think he cares about his money, and his immediate pleasure. So he cares what people think about him only as far as them still watching and donating money. Which is why he immediately rolls over and sells out when he gets complaints, why he will clearly be miserable playing a game and seem to absolutely hate it but still give it a good review, why he's constantly talking out of both sides of his mouth. Because he's a coward with no convictions and just wants to slime his way into short term creature comforts with as little effort as possible.
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I think he cares just because everyone knowing him as a fuck up makes any growth in popularity difficult, which means less viewers and less pockets he can empty. He would not be able to keep many of those new viewers because he is only ironically entertaining, but without the stigma he has 100 people might check him out and 5-10 would stick around for a while instead of only 10 checking him out and 1 sticking around for a while.

In unrelated news his Patreon is down to $953 so Vidar may want to settle down with the bits because he may have a big margin to make up this month.
 
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JamFlowMan said:
Dsp just wants it to be 2010 again so he can upload 10 minute clips that make him a lot of money, have friends/fans/girlfriend, and not yet have the wide known negative stigma attached to his name.
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He had a negative stigma attached to his name based on his behavior in fighting games communities before he uploaded a single video.
 
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SoapQueen1 said:
He had a negative stigma attached to his name based on his behavior in fighting games communities before he uploaded a single video.
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He'd have a negative stigma attached to his name no matter what community he was in and what he did, because DarkSydePhil is an embarrassingly stupid name that makes everyone above a certain IQ threshold roll their eyes and respond negatively. Even in the context of the early 2000's when everything on the internet was a lot more cringey, it still sounds like something you'd make up to make fun of edgy loser teenagers and self-important bloated neckbeards. You could add "LordOfThe" to the front and "666XXX666" to the end and it wouldn't seem out of place at all.
 
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bird said:
I'd imagine getting hammered with 10-30 videos every day when you get off the bus from school and still have to manage time to do your home work and play ROBLOX™ with your friends then eat dinner while still getting yelled at by mom, then still have to watch DSP's THREE stupid twitch streams a day can be really tiring to manage every day
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I've unfollowed channels that were good but ultimately spammed my sub box with vids I wasn't interested in, and i think that was maybe 3 or 4 a day? He can't pull adult viewers because he makes his channel seem like a time investment, and he can't pull a lot of young people because even they don't want to watch 30 videos just to catch up to what's going on.
 
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Le Redditeur Part Deux said:
https://twitter.com/Drgnkiller/status/898341194522021888

Is he really making $200+ on donations every day?
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According to Eddyb43 he usually makes $2,000-$2,500 a month excluding Paypal donations. That would be something like $83 a day average. I am sure some days are great where he pulls in $200 then other days where he doesn't get much. It is also worth noting he does not get this money right away he has to wait a month or two.

In the stream today somebody gave him $100 in bits which causes that person to be showered with praise by the rest of the chat and then people try to goad BSV into outdoing that person. The chat thinks every big donation triggers detractors so they really have deluded themselves into thinking giving money to Phil is a big middle finger to people who don't like him.

Completely unrelated but one of his viewers TheAnoyMouse (or something like that) said one of the girls in Agents of Mayhem could "use my face as a maxi pad" so it is good to know Dsp is still attracting the most classy of individuals.
 
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Jesus Christ..
 

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JamFlowMan said:
He openly admits his videos have boring moments people skip past which leads to lower retention time. He has yet to think of any solution to fix this problem instead pretending, to the detriment of his business, there was "nothing I could do." Dsp just wants it to be 2010 again so he can upload 10 minute clips that make him a lot of money, have friends/fans/girlfriend, and not yet have the wide known negative stigma attached to his name.
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Does anyone know how much of a video has to be watched in order for it to meet the standard for viewer retention? Considering his shit is boring as fuck unless he's getting absolutely bodied(which, thankfully for him, happens all the time because he's shit at video games), the fact that he just isn't entertaining is likely harming him more than detractors ever could. He's his own worst enemy in that way.

Um Oh Ah Yeah said:
I've unfollowed channels that were good but ultimately spammed my sub box with vids I wasn't interested in, and i think that was maybe 3 or 4 a day? He can't pull adult viewers because he makes his channel seem like a time investment, and he can't pull a lot of young people because even they don't want to watch 30 videos just to catch up to what's going on.
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The vast majority of his viewers are people who likely follow several people on YouTube for gaming videos. With only so many hours in a day, they have a limited amount of content that they can watch in what free time they have outside of work/school/autism camp. Your shit had better be fucking good if you're going to be sending more than five videos to my inbox each day. I may not like all of it, but there better be something there I can find interesting before I unsubscribe to remove that kind of flooding. Phil chooses to absolutely saturate inboxes due to his beyond stupid method of delivering khantent. One of the longest-running complaints about him on YouTube is how he spams the shit out of people, and this leads to folks dropping his channel because they don't want to deal with that much static. He hurts himself in so many ways, and is completely oblivious about all of it.
 
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Both him and Onision are pretty much spouting the same shit about YouTube at this point. They live within miles of one another I wonder how we could get them to become friends, enemies, whatever.

There's potential here. I feel it.
 
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RIP_SANITY said:
https://twitter.com/Drgnkiller/status/898286513988837377
"I WARNED YOU ALL FOR FUCKING YEARS! Told you this YT shit would happen. Nobody listens! I'm just some nobody asshole that sucks at games!"
Well Phil, you are right on one thing: you are indeed a nobody asshole that sucks at games.
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Trying to brag that he knew Youtube was going downhill is a stupid thing for him to do. He "knew" the platform his channel is on was going to sink and his only plan is to go down with the ship bitching and crying the whole way. More proof even Dsp does not listen to the things he says. He pretends to move is mouth when he is really talking out of his ass like some fucked up ventriloquist dummy.
 
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I'm a bit late catching up, but I lol'd at the idea of him taking off an entire stream to get a damn haircut.

I guess it would have been impossible for him to schedule a haircut outside of his streaming schedule- or god forbid get it done when he was taking time off due to tummy ache.
 
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xenomorph said:
Jesus Christ..
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Who is this creepy lookin' bastard?

Also why do people continue to give the walrus more money?

What? said:
My favorite DSP phrase is "Random Super!"
Because of course if someone uses a strong move when they have a full meter there's just no way to tell they're going to do it.
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Basically, if someone beats Phil, it's never legitimate. If he beats someone, he's a god and nobody else is on his level. Excuses include the damage done to him being "unearned", or "not a single legitimate hit". He spews so much shit, it's crazy. It's as if he thinks he can see into the future whenever he says shit like "if I could've punished that, I would've won". Bullshit.

Edit: Forgot to mention how he loves telling his audience how his opponent "didn't mean to do <whatever move the opponent did to win>", then proceed to explain what, in his mind, his opponent meant to do. I've heard him use this excuse in a few Street Fighter salt video, trying to explain an opponent's victory as "oh my god he totally didn't mean to do that, he was going for <move>, if he hadn't done that, I would've been able to punish and win" to discredit his opponent.

I feel like sitting here and reading all 1400+ pages of this thread. I'm THAT bored.
 
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