What do you think of Trump's presidency so far?

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Most of us actually noticed when the last collapse occurred that nobody did anything to stop it from happening again. Trump made noises like he was going to do something about this, Hillary screamed about frogs, Trump got elected. The fact that Trump isn't actually doing anything about this and probably intends to profit from the next collapse will probably go unnoticed by his drooling idiot worshippers.
The only ones who worship Trump are loyal fox news viewers and those desperate for a mouth piece against Democratic identity politics.
 
I totally agree. It absolutely will. They'll find a plethora of other anathemas and symptoms to blame it on, but the Cheeto will go unblamed.

It's like watching grandparents spoil a child rotten and never get mad at what he or she does.

But I wonder if you'd be singing the same tune if Hillary had gotten in and also done nothing?
 
I wouldn't say I worship Daddy Trump, but he most certainly is the type of president the country needs and will continue to need in the future. The US has been a media focused, freedom focused, liberty focused, capitalist focused, and national focused country since the beginning. Trump is all of those things rolled up into one.

Love him or hate him, we must all admit that he's one of the best representations of the US. It's like when Bismark was in charge of Germany. Diplomacy chess is not the idea of succumbing to your opponent (Obama's strategy). To make things better, Daddy Trump does 4D Diplomacy chess. It's a double win.

I'm not saying he's perfect, but he for sure is a wonderful example for what the US needs now and in the future.
 
I mean the U.S has yet to be drowned in a fiery uranium hell so I guess there's that
 
But I wonder if you'd be singing the same tune if Hillary had gotten in and also done nothing?
I knew that knee jerk was coming. She lost, so it doesn't really matter, but I'd probably find plenty to dislike about her, too.

Getting nothing done was an inevitability for both. With such an evenly divided legislature that liked neither, there was not an ounce of hope for anything getting done.
 
Most of us actually noticed when the last collapse occurred that nobody did anything to stop it from happening again. Trump made noises like he was going to do something about this, Hillary screamed about frogs, Trump got elected. The fact that Trump isn't actually doing anything about this and probably intends to profit from the next collapse will probably go unnoticed by his drooling idiot worshippers.
I have this feeling man, 'cause you know, it's just a handful of people who run everything, you know … that's true, it's provable. It's not … I'm not a fucking conspiracy nut, it's provable. A handful, a very small elite, run and own these corporations, which include the mainstream media.

I have this feeling that whoever is elected president, like Clinton was, no matter what you promise on the campaign trail – blah, blah, blah – when you win, you go into this smoke-filled room with the twelve industrialist capitalist scum-fucks who got you in there. And you're in this smoky room, and this little film screen comes down … and a big guy with a cigar goes, "Roll the film."

And it's a shot of the Kennedy assassination from an angle you've never seen before … that looks suspiciously like it's from the grassy knoll. And then the screen goes up and the lights come up, and they go to the new president, "Any questions?" "Er, just what my agenda is." "First we bomb Baghdad." "You got it …"
 
I knew that knee jerk was coming. She lost, so it doesn't really matter, but I'd probably find plenty to dislike about her, too.

Getting nothing done was an inevitability for both. With such an evenly divided legislature that liked neither, there was not an ounce of hope for anything getting done.

Yes, but then, why bring it up? We all know that there are certain things a President just doesn't have the power to do. The military industrial complex that supplied the war of independence, the civil war, WWI and WWII have locked them into place, they are a fixture of America, woven into it's history and culture. Presidents of the past have spoken in speeches how they are virtually powerless next to it.

After the Financial Crisis happened, people went to Wall St to protest, and two weeks later it was taken over by people that were more interested in pronouns. And that was a simple protest to raise awareness of the corruption of Wall St. And it was summarily dismantled and turned into a laughing stock by the media in a matter of weeks.
 
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Yes, but then, why bring it up? We all know that there are certain things a President just doesn't have the power to do. The military industrial complex that supplied the war of independence, the civil war, WWI and WWII have locked them into place, they are a fixture of America, woven into it's history and culture. Presidents of the past have spoken in speeches how they are virtually powerless next to it.

After the Financial Crisis happened, people went to Wall St to protest, and two weeks later it was taken over by people that were more interested in pronouns. And that was a simple protest to raise awareness. And it was summarily dismantled and turned into a laughing stock by the media in a matter of weeks.
Most of that was a non sequitur, but okay.

For as dickless as the office of the president is when it comes to domestic policy (and mind you, it is and it should be) he still has the power of executive order. The few underwhelming measures taken by Obama to safeguard against another similar crisis were done away by Trump.

So another one is coming and Trump will hold a great deal of the blame. Not all, of course. To suggest he would be entirely to blame would be hyperbolic and ridiculous. But some will be his and a large piece of the pie at that.
 
Most of that was a non sequitur, but okay.

For as dickless as the office of the president is when it comes to domestic policy (and mind you, it is and it should be) he still has the power of executive order. The few underwhelming measures taken by Obama to safeguard against another similar crisis were done away by Trump.

But there it is isn't it? Did Congress all stand as one to pass bold new laws to properly regulate Wall st and protect the citizens? As you said, there were a few underwhelming measures that made it look like they were doing something, and the next President who came in could instantly revert. And I'm pretty sure that's all they had the power to do.

There's simply some things you aren't allowed to do in Washington, theres simply groups you have to deal with, like Wall St, and AIPAC, otherwise you'll never see the doors of the White House.
 
But there it is isn't it? Did Congress all stand as one to pass bold new laws to properly regulate Wall st and protect the citizens? As you said, there were a few underwhelming measures that made it look like they were doing something, and the next President who came in could instantly revert. And I'm pretty sure that's all they had the power to do.

There's simply some things you aren't allowed to do in Washington, theres simply groups you have to deal with, like Wall St, and AIPAC, otherwise you'll never see the doors of the White House.
I'm certainly not defending the lack of action against Wall Street. Nor was that ever my intent. The measures put in place by Obama were the utter minimum and, still, Cheeto in Command rescinded them. So, once again, we're headed for another big downturn.

Donald Trump is yet another affirmation of that. If you think he'll do anything to curb that, then I've got a bridge to sell you. Feel free to peddle as much Whataboutism that you'd like. Call Hillary a shitpile all you like, I'll hardly disagree. But, that still doesn't make Donnie any better. He's doing pretty bad and the only ones satisfied are those young enough to lack perspective and dyed in the wool zealots.
 
I'm certainly not defending the lack of action against Wall Street. Nor was that ever my intent. The measures put in place by Obama were the utter minimum and, still, Cheeto in Command rescinded them. So, once again, we're headed for another big downturn.

Donald Trump is yet another affirmation of that. If you think he'll do anything to curb that, then I've got a bridge to sell you. Feel free to peddle as much Whataboutism that you'd like. Call Hillary a shitpile all you like, I'll hardly disagree. But, that still doesn't make Donnie any better. He's doing pretty bad and the only ones satisfied are those young enough to lack perspective and dyed in the wool zealots.

Well it seems like you've already made up your mind. What's your solution? A President that dissolves congress, takes command of the Military and starts seizing Wall St assets? I really don't see where you are coming from, if everyone is equally shit, why do you even care? Why do you follow politics if you feel it's the exact same song and dance all the time?
 
Well it seems like you've already made up your mind. What's your solution? A President that dissolves congress, takes command of the Military and starts seizing Wall St assets? I really don't see where you are coming from, if everyone is equally shit, why do you even care? Why do you follow politics if you feel it's the exact same song and dance all the time?
If you recall earlier, I stated that the limitations of the executive branch are a good thing. So, how'd you arrive at the seizure of assets by the military, exactly?
 
If you recall earlier, I stated that the limitations of the executive branch are a good thing. So, how'd you arrive at the seizure of assets by the military, exactly?

Because I'm confused by your entire point of view, you say The limitations are good, but the Office of the President is impotent, but Trump and Hillary are both shit because they cannot do anything with the power they don't have, and that's good.

wha?
 
Because I'm confused by your entire point of view, you say The limitations are good, but the Office of the President is impotent, but Trump and Hillary are both shit because they cannot do anything with the power they don't have, and that's good.

wha?
What's so hard to grasp about "shitty candidates being hamstrung by legislature is a good thing?"
 
What's so hard to grasp about "shitty candidates being hamstrung by legislature is a good thing?"

So if by some miracle of God the most perfect candidate you ever wished for got in. Then they too are hamstrung by the legislature. Sounds like you just don't like the system rather than the candidate.
 
So if by some miracle of God the most perfect candidate you ever wished for got in. Then they too are hamstrung by the legislature. Sounds like you just don't like the system rather than the candidate.
That's hardly a scenario worth considering and is tantamount to a nirvana fallacy.

But, then again, I'm not someone who falls for demagogues nor am I one to think that so much power should be consolidated into a single individual given that humans are flawed and are mostly incapable of the constant objectivity that'd be required of such authority.

I still don't see how this inquiry has sprung from merely stating the obvious that Trump is a pretty poor leader.
 
That's hardly a scenario worth considering and is tantamount to a nirvana fallacy.

But, then again, I'm not someone who falls for demagogues nor am I one to think that so much power should be consolidated into a single individual given that humans are flawed and are mostly incapable of the constant objectivity that'd be required of such authority.

I still don't see how this inquiry has sprung from merely stating the obvious that Trump is a pretty poor leader.

"Poor Leader" is a bit too vague a term for me. You disagree on his political or social positions? Do you don't like the way he conducts himself to the press and in public? You believe anyone who supports him is a enraptured stooge who sees him as some sort of man god made flesh? Exactly what do you mean?
 
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