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I mean the website for the B&O does have this nicer and easier to digest portion:
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Just because it has the word "entertainer" doesn't mean it applies. The definition of entertainer isn't clarified on the website, but likely is in reference to people who are hired to sing/entertain (such as musicians, comedians and emcees).

The Massachusetts government calls it a "performer":
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http://www.mass.gov/dor/docs/dor/publ/pdfs/performers.pdf

Phil records video of himself and licenses his copyright/likeness to a 3rd party company who places advertisements on said content and pays him "royalties" based upon this. This is most likely in no way considered to be an "entertainer".

For example if you made a DVD in Washington to which you held the copyright, but 90% of actual sales occurred outside of Washington then you wouldn't be liable for those in terms of tax. Replace DVD's which are "tangible goods" to Phil's online videos (which seem to be "intangible goods") and you can argue that almost none of the customer base is actually within Washington.

Another example might be if you were a musician hired to perform at a function, you are a person who is contracted to provide a "service". Because the function would likely be based in Washington by Washington-based company then you have taken advantage of being located within Washington and therefore you should pay the business tax.

If Phil provides no "service" to companies or customers located within Washington state, then he is deriving no benefit from being located in Washington state. Even technically speaking he is providing no actual service and rather mostly receiving royalties from copyrights that he owns (and yeah, we all know there's a lot of autism when it comes to Phil and copyright, but for the purposes of this discussion, he licenses out copyright he technically owns and receives royalty payments based upon this and not for providing a "service").

The law seems specifically written to exclude the outright sale of copyright (like if he sold the DSP "brand" in one transaction). As companies are "licensing" his copyright, it wouldn't technically be excluded.

This part of the Washington laws is probably the most relevant when it comes to "entertainer" that I could find:
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http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=458-20-211

>tfw they use an example which mentions "Helicopter, Inc."

Anyway, the important distinction is that an entertainer is contracted/hired to provide services, whereas Phil produces his own video content which he licenses. So I can't see it as being the same. A contractor/performer/entertainer would likely not hold any copyright entitlement to what they do, much less receive royalties from it from out of state sources.

Having said all that, even if the copyright/royalties argument got accepted by the government he'd still have to explain the Patreon income as well as Twich bits/cheers. As neither of these technically directly relate to his copyright and are digital tokens it'd be a nightmarish complex situation. Supposing the twitch bits/cheers/subs fell under "intangible goods" then Phil could argue they were consumed out of state in which case the Washington government may have no basis upon which to claim tax.

If it became too complex to show where Phil's "consumers" purchase/use his "intangible goods" then some of the previous shit I pasted shows that it'd fall to whichever state the company is that provides said income to Phil. So if Amazon/YouTube are not based in Washington, then he can tell them to fuck off.
 
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"It feels good to be appreciated! I've done this for 10 fucking years! I don't want to lose my house and take 20 steps back after all the HARD WORK and dedication I've put into this cuz of some irresponsible, JERK that fucked up my taxes!"

Kill me.

EDIT: By the way, some time ago we passed the point where 50% of this thread was posts from this year. Good job DSP. 2017 is going to be what you're remembered for, it's going to be your actual legacy.
 
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"It feels good to be appreciated! I've done this for 10 fucking years! I don't want to lose my house and take 20 steps back after all the HARD WORK and dedication I've put into this cuz of some irresponsible, JERK that fucked up my taxes!"

Kill me.

he won't say it's his fault? absolutely incredible. Nothing is ever his fault.
 
I really think its another instance of Phil trying to play stupid. I'm sure that he was aware that Washington had business income tax but just pretended to not know/care, it'd fit with basically every other life decision he's made so far ("I can get $30 now or $300 after 10 minutes? I'll take the $30!")

I think he willfully knew about this whole thing, especially when you look at Leanna's soap business being a registered company.
So in other words, tax evasion or tax fraud
 
So in other words, tax evasion or tax fraud

Until the government can tackle thought crime it won't be tax evasion/tax fraud. Had he paid tax initially, and then stopped or somehow fiddled with his numbers then that'd be something to investigate, but so long as he has nothing in writing that is public and so long as the relationship between a tax attorney/accountant is considered to be a privileged communication (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accountant–client_privilege) then its on the verge of impossible to do anything about. There's also applicable statutes of limitation regardless of if you overpaid or underpaid, so if you ran a company for 20 years and didn't pay some certain tax thing the entire time, you'd only be liable for the most recent 4 years or something.

A good example is some of the people who sell items to customers in Washington state for years only to realize at some point that because they sold more than $250k (or whatever the limit is) that they're liable for Washington state government tax (even if they have no office/property within Washington at all). And from what I read its a somewhat common scenario.

What'd actually be funny is that if somehow this tax thing goes away due to some unique interpretation of the law, but then another state comes along and decides Phil owes tax despite not living there.
 
My favorite DSP thing is probably when he says I JUST WANT TO PLAY GAMES. Like, I just want to make a living playing video games, a thing that maybe a few thousand people on the entire planet will ever be lucky enough to do. That's all I want.
 
It’s fascinating to me to watch a man who spews such horseshit 99.9% of the time his mouth is open; but he does it with the confidence of a man who believes it to be reality. His delusion draws others of the same delusion.

The more I watch him, the more I wonder if he doesn’t think he’s telling the truth, minimal bullshit and maximum truth. I’ve known people that are so delusional that even when presented with evidence have some sort of excuse as to why that’s wrong even when it’s in black and white in front of them.

Does he know how to manipulate his bigger enablers? Of course, that can’t be denied. Is he lying? The more I watch him, the less I think so, at least in his eyes. He really thinks that he’s done nothing to deserve the hate, people are just jealous if they say anything against him.

A cockroach may survive a nuclear blast, but not a rolled up newspaper. The day karma finally comes back for payment may break Phil so fully that he may never recover.
 
How does he still get money after everything that has happened this year alone? His PayPigs fucking love him a d we will never fundamentally understand why. It's a myth to anyone who bothers to everyone attempt to get a solid answer to this question.

I think these people are more drawn to the drama than Phil himself. To them, giving Phil money is them fighting the "cyber bullies". I really do not think they have any real reverence for Phils gameplay and entertainment value. I guarantee once the detractors and kiwis get bored of Phil and lose interest, so will his pay pigs and autistic fanbase.
 
The thing I dont understand with his "fundraiser for the charity of Phil" He needs the tips for January to cover this tax bill and his income tax bill and his tax for the CT condo bill along with all of the other bills he owes as a part of owning two homes.... What happens come february? What about March? What about April? Does he believe that just one infusion of cash will fix this very tenuous "I might lose my house dood" His next tax bill is going to be the higher one for the patreon palace that's going to also back up against a quarterly income tax. I believe that's in April (if I remember my long post about his bills... my memory isnt the best) Are we going to have another "charity stream" to milk the piggies again? How about next December? Its going to keep going.

What gets me is these people dont realize it. They dont see the future that they're enabling for him. Every month is an emergen-ree. Every month he's "nervous"

I mean if you can be successful in the entertainment business, by all means, you do you. But if you're constantly begging children for their allowance while owning two homes, its time to rethink your career.
 
The thing I dont understand with his "fundraiser for the charity of Phil" He needs the tips for January to cover this tax bill and his income tax bill and his tax for the CT condo bill along with all of the other bills he owes as a part of owning two homes.... What happens come february? What about March? What about April? Does he believe that just one infusion of cash will fix this very tenuous "I might lose my house dood" His next tax bill is going to be the higher one for the patreon palace that's going to also back up against a quarterly income tax. I believe that's in April (if I remember my long post about his bills... my memory isnt the best) Are we going to have another "charity stream" to tard cum the piggies again? How about next December? Its going to keep going.

What gets me is these people dont realize it. They dont see the future that they're enabling for him. Every month is an emergen-ree. Every month he's "nervous"

I mean if you can be successful in the entertainment business, by all means, you do you. But if you're constantly begging children for their allowance while owning two homes, its time to rethink your career.

I'm willing to guess the average donor doesn't follow Phil like we do, probably just sees this guy playing a popular game, somehow enjoys his content on stream, and just tosses him a few cheers or tips. Its why his Patreon is so consistently paltry. Thats where the paypigs are mostly besides BSV.

And Phil has options. He will likely still have to move eventually, and he really doesn't need that townhouse anymore since its just him. I'm betting by next summer he will be promoting sales of shit around the house and raising a move fund and will likely move into a decent luxury apartment by the end of next year in Seattle. Even though he should there is nothing making him absolutely move back to CT.
 
The thing I dont understand with his "fundraiser for the charity of Phil" He needs the tips for January to cover this tax bill and his income tax bill and his tax for the CT condo bill along with all of the other bills he owes as a part of owning two homes.... What happens come february? What about March? What about April? Does he believe that just one infusion of cash will fix this very tenuous "I might lose my house dood" His next tax bill is going to be the higher one for the patreon palace that's going to also back up against a quarterly income tax. I believe that's in April (if I remember my long post about his bills... my memory isnt the best) Are we going to have another "charity stream" to tard cum the piggies again? How about next December? Its going to keep going.

What gets me is these people dont realize it. They dont see the future that they're enabling for him. Every month is an emergen-ree. Every month he's "nervous"

I mean if you can be successful in the entertainment business, by all means, you do you. But if you're constantly begging children for their allowance while owning two homes, its time to rethink your career.


Eventually, these people will finally grow up and realize that throwing money at a lost cause serves no benefit. Their lives will change, their priorities will be shuffled, and eventually for them Phil will no longer be pertinent enough to consider wasting their time and money on. Only the craziest of crazies will still be taking any of this serious 1-2 years from now. As they say "there is no such thing as bad press". I can't imagine any new influx of people paying attention to Phil, whether it's true and honest fans or detractors. He has reached peak interest levels in 2016-2017. If anything more and more people will drop Phil off their radar, as he has nothing left interesting in his life. If Phil does outright telethon begging streams every week, it will be over for him. He is far too boring to garner any new viewers, and I think he will be having trouble even keeping our interest in 2018.
 
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So I felt this very last line of this TKOH post was worth screenshotting, purely because it may make the fanboys wonder about the kahntent and what makes it worthwhile. The point itself is a good one - if people like what they see, they'll likely contribute. What is there to really like with Phil's kahntent though? The salt?
 
I'm calling it now. This convoluted little system Phil came up with is gonna make his Patreon total take a nosedive. He might hit his Twitch sub goals once in a while, but his obvious motive here is to get his patrons to double dip; he split the method of getting the reward into two parts (hitting it via twitch and controlling the details via patreon) because he's trying to squeeze every last shekel out of his fans. But I'm calling it, this is the nail in the coffin of his Patreon page.
 
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