Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Hanamura]

You know, instead of dumping it on a grave, did this woman consider donating to a tard cum bank, for kids who might be in need?

For a lot of these types of parents, it's all me me me to them. They don't care how much their kid is suffering (or suffered), likewise, they don't care about other kids suffering.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

As I said before on the Hartley thread, there are people out there for whom caring for the seriously disabled is a vocation and religion doesn't really come into it or is incidental. Plus no matter how bad it is to be a special needs kid in a First-World country with relatively good healthcare, it's a lot worse if you're born in a place where the disability is seen as a curse or with only the most rudimentary clinics, so regardless of the adopter's motive for adopting these kids it's usually a step up. Having new Jesus-freak mommy whisper prayers in your ear while you're seizing away is still a step up from being strapped to a potty rocking back and forth 10 hours a day in some warehouse in Bulgaria:

The kids in the video are nowhere near as disabled as Matthew or Lola or Claire, though. They can sit up, feed themselves, and walk around. Didi is clearly the most well functioning, but a follow up article says that being in that environment reduced her to nothing but rocking back and forth a few years later. If she had been adopted, that wouldn't have happened. Which I would imagine is sort of the appeal--knowing that they're almost certainly going to improve a little, because of you. There are no Matthews to adopt from the Second World, because they're not going to live long enough for that. I don't think most people would adopt a true potato.

 

[King Zora]

"Norma Lea was born September 10, 2010 compleatly healthy"
normal lea
normal ly
normally
(anyone else catch this?)

 

[Bani]

So what I'm basically getting from this is that people are paying thousands of dollars to torture their kids.

Y'know, when a dog has a giant tumor, people feel bad for the pain it's in and put it down. But when there's a kid who has hundreds of seizures a day, cannot survive without machines, and has no cognitive abilities, people suddenly get wishy-washy about taking it off life support. If I got into some sort of accident that left me in a similar state, I'd want my family to pull the plug, not waste thousands on dollars to keep me alive.

 

[Cake Farts]

"Norma Lea was born September 10, 2010 compleatly healthy"
normal lea
normal ly
normally
(anyone else catch this?)

They learned their lesson after Maladie maladied passed away.

Anyways, thoughts on disabled people having kids?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...yndrome-is-fighting-to-have-children.amp.html

 

[Mrs Paul]

Depends -- is their condition genetic? (Quite honestly, I'm not comfortable though about having any laws controlling who can have kids, though, if that's what you're asking. We really don't have a great track record there)

Aren't people with Downs though usually sterile?

 

[Cake Farts]

Depends -- is their condition genetic? (Quite honestly, I'm not comfortable though about having any laws controlling who can have kids, though, if that's what you're asking. We really don't have a great track record there)

Aren't people with Downs though usually sterile?

Men, usually.

Downs women generally have a very slim chance of pregnancy, but I think gestation is a different matter.

 

[Dysnomia]

In my digging I've found some really odd cases. Some of whom have already died.

Eli "born without a nose" Thompson wasn't horrifyingly to look at, just odd. His dad informed the world that in June, God wanted to bring him back home. I admit I laughed slightly at the mother's comments when he was born.


Another more horrifying visual is Vitória Marchioli. She has Treacher Collins syndrome and has made it to 9 years old. Somehow. If you don't know what the condition is and are easily freaked out then don't go looking. I am amazed that her family kept her alive but her quality of life is mixed. It doesn't cause any developmental issues but it can't be an easy life. Her condition was pretty severe.

I'm at work just now so can't post the stuff I have written at home but this is up and running now anyway. Will post it later.

I looked up Vitoria and I think maybe she had other things wrong with her. Juliana Wetmore has the same condition and she seems to be a smart and normal kid despite her severe deformity. I'm thinking Vitoria may be a potato or close to it. There are no pics of her walking or standing. Her parents are always holding her up. Juliana Wetmore can run around like a normal child. Vitoria looks like she has microcephaly or anencephaly.

There's another Vitoria, Vitoria de Criso. She had anencephaly and lived for 2 1/2 years. But she seemed to have some fair degree of sentience and was able to interact with her parents and seemed pretty happy.
http://belovedvitoria.blogspot.com/

The family is in Brazil. But they were told an exception for abortion could be granted because the condition was incompatible with life. They chose not to abort.

What bothers me isn't so much the ones who choose to give birth and then allow their babies to die, (although i can't imagine going through it myself). It's the ones like the Hartleys or the Nels, who insist on prolonging their suffering. THAT pisses me off. You wouldn't do that to a pet, why do it to a kid? When most people talk about their deaths, they don't say, "I want a long, lingering experience of being hooked up to machines as I get worse and worse, and suffer constant pain!" Honestly, it's child abuse.
They don't do it for their child -- they do it because it's a blessing to them. And if they truely believe in God, why don't they think that maybe their child would be better off being with God, and free of pain and suffering?



You know, instead of dumping it on a grave, did this woman consider donating to a tard cum bank, for kids who might be in need?

I thought that too. It seemed to be a waste.

I can just imagine hearing "It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday" while Luke pours out breast milk on the ground for the babies that ain't here. I know I shouldn't laugh. But that's the scenario that played in my head.

The worst are the kids that are mentally normal but deformed. At least the Hartley girls are unable to realise they aren't normal. Jaxon will never understand hat he has half a head. But Juliana Wetmore has to live out a life with a normal brain and a deformed face requiring countless surgeries. And even then she will never look normal.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Christian Buchanan. Not nearly as bad as the Hartley Hooligans since he's conscious, but it's sad nonetheless.

He was born with severe facial deformities and his parents are using him as an inspirational story. They knew he was going to be a mess but decided not to abort because Jesus.
http://christianbuchanan.blogspot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/SuperChristiansMom
http://www.eyesofhopebook.com/
https://www.facebook.com/LaceyandChristianBuchanan/

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017...birth-defect-is-seen-through-the-eyes-of-hope

"I have shared Christian on social media his whole life to open up doors, acceptance for him, and to educate people about what it looks like to live with a disability," Lacey explained. "He is a person, first. He has a disability, but it doesn't define him."

Christian was born with Tessier cleft lip and palate, one of the worst cases his doctors had seen. He also was born with a condition caused by amniotic band syndrome. It essentially left him without eyes.

Although the prognosis was grim, Lacey said that from the very beginning she had faith that God would work all things together for good.

"During the pregnancy, we held onto the hope that God was working things out for our good, that Christian was going to be okay, and that everything was going to be okay," she said.

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[ragonastick]

His brain is probably barely functional at best. It isn't even divided into hemispheres. Again, it's a completely hopeless condition that will never, ever get any better and can't.

Even if he had had more brain function when he was born, wouldn't hour long seizures (mom said the "record" was six hours?) cause brain damage on their own? Can't be much left if there ever was any...

 

[Night Terror]

Since this is a tard baby general thread, it might be worthwhile to have a list of tard baby illnesses and their symptoms. I see words like holoprosencephaly thrown around, and while it's not difficult to google it, it might spare the squeamish from having to see or read about fucked up tard babies that don't have any lolcow potential. I'm a bit of a brain autist, so I felt it might be helpful to have a brief list that isn't overly scientific or jargony. Otherwise, ignore my sperging.

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Mental tard babies

• Down syndrome - an extra chromosome that fuck up a person's development, causing them to be the annoying tards you read about in greentext stories. Sufferers have distinctive facial abnormalities and a mental age that generally doesn't progress past the teenage years, if that. Probably too common to be considered miraculous by most, and frequently aborted.
  
• Macrocephaly - oversized head. Usually benign, but can come with megalencephaly, which is an abnormally large brain. The latter is often a byproduct of autism brain mutations (thanks for cultivating autism, Chris!), and sufferers may have no motor or speech development at all in severe cases, much like the next disorder on the list.
  
• Microcephaly - repping the Hartley Horrors, microcephaly is an undersized head. Microencephaly is a given, which is an abnormally small brain, generally lacking the fore- and sometimes midbrain. Sufferers of the latter are the disgusting unresponsive sacks of flesh and bone that Gwen Hartley inflicts on the world.
• Anencephaly - the skull failed to close in utero, and most, if not all, of the brain is missing. Babies that somehow get born "alive" are doomed to an early grave. Ones that last a year or more are rare. Acephalus is the total lack of a head altogether, but this only really occurs in a specific kind of parasitic twin.
• Hydranencephaly - the skull is closed, but most of the brain is missing, instead replaced with spinal fluid. Babies seem oddly normal at birth, but rapidly degenerate over the coming weeks.
  
• Holoprosencephaly - the forebrain failed to split into two distinct hemispheres, and instead remains whole. The most obvious symptom of this are facial abnormalities - in mild cases, the eyes are unusually close together. In severe cases you get cyclopia, which is where the baby has one giant, blind eye somewhere on its face, often with a probocis (failed, vestigial attempt at a nose) above it. Seizures and breathing problems are common, and severe sufferers don't usually last long.
  
• Lissencephaly - the brain surface is smooth rather than wrinkled. This loss of surface area reduces brain function and produces a tard baby. While responsive and somewhat aware of its surroundings, a lissencephalic baby will likely never speak or move much on its own, and will suffer from constant seizures.
  
• Polymicrogyria - excessive folding of the forebrain, which is more or less the opposite of lissencephaly. Causes developmental delays and seizures.
  
• Hydrocephalus - spinal fluid on the brain. Our best friend TJChurch suffers from this. High skull pressure is the most common symptom, & it can cause mental impairments & crippling headaches, although the excess fluid can be shunted away. A lot of people can survive into adulthood with fairly normal brain function, & I assume they're not all be like TJ.

Physical tard babies

• Cleft palate - the top lip is split apart, usually up to the nostril. Barely counts as a tard baby disorder, since it only really causes problems with feeding and is relatively easy to fix, but you know what parents are like when it comes to their super special angels. It can be caused by brain defects, but on its own, the baby is mentally normal.
  
• Parasitic twin - one twin fused to the other in the womb and only partially grew, leeching blood and nutrients off the other, healthy twin. Usually manifests as a clump of malformed limbs hanging off the healthy twin, and sometimes even a head. Few if any are sentient, but it is biologically alive. I imagine superstitious parents would go absolutely apeshit over this, particularly in the rare cases where the parasitic twin can blink or breathe.
  
• Polymelia - extra limbs, usually deformed but sometimes functional. Either a problem with development or an absorbed conjoined twin. Extreme cases can produce a creepy octopus baby with loads of arms or legs. The baby itself is usually mentally fine. These are the sorts of babies that street shitting Indians and other mystical cultures consider to be divine.
• Harlequin-type ichthyosis - try not to google this if you can help it. A harlequin baby is born with unusually thick skin covering their body (hyperkeratosis) and inverted, bloody eyelids and lips, giving them a creepy, blood-smeared fish face like a murloc. The rigid, cracked skin makes it hard to breathe and move and is very prone to infection. They look like frightening props from a horror movie.
• Lithopedia - doesn't really count, because the baby is already dead, but it's interesting, so I'm chucking it in for flavour. A lithopedion is a miscarried abdominal pregnancy that calcified into essentially a chunk of rock to protect the mother from having rotting flesh poisoning her body. Very rare and specimens are highly sought-after by weirdo scientists and museums.

 

[AnOminous]

Some of those aren't tard babies and don't cause retardation. Harlequin ichthyosis, for instance, is an entirely physical condition. People now live, sometimes to adulthood, with this, and are entirely mentally normal. Other than the trauma of having been born a monster, that is.

 

[Night Terror]

Some of those aren't tard babies and don't cause exceptionalism. Harlequin ichthyosis, for instance, is an entirely physical condition. People now live, sometimes to adulthood, with this, and are entirely mentally normal. Other than the trauma of having been born a monster, that is.

Yes, but it's more the reactions of the parents to it. Tard babies are tard babies, it's the parents that provide the content. They'll take any defect with their brave little soldier and turn it into something cynical and self-aggrandising.

 

[💗Freddie Freaker💗]

Angela Morales, anencephalic baby being paraded around as a miracle.
https://www.facebook.com/ourbabyANGELA/
http://ourbabyangela.blogspot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA0wW387goLJivDhIxo9ggw

 

[FBIfellow420]

Angela Morales, anencephalic baby being paraded around as a miracle.
https://www.facebook.com/ourbabyANGELA/
http://ourbabyangela.blogspot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA0wW387goLJivDhIxo9ggw

Sometimes I am very disappointed with doctors because as soon as they know our babies have a life-limited condition they encouraged mothers to terminate. We parents look to healthcare professionals, as the people with all the information and knowledge, but with my experience with Angela ALL they know about anencephaly is what is in the books. My baby girl is labeled but the label is not who she is, she is my daughter, a friend, a sister, she is a human being. She is compatible with life and compatible with love. Abortion is incompatible with life. Our babies deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.

I know it's been said before about a shitzillion times, but all of these parents stun me with the amount of disrespect they have for the people keeping their potato clocks ticking. I mean, there's pages and pages of horseshit about God and miracles on these people's blog, but not a word of thanks for the medical staff that have surely saved their dying kid a hundred times over. A brainless child doesn't make it past a week or so without immediate and comprehensive medical intervention, let alone the first month, or year, or (looking at you, Gwen), decade. If God's plan is so perfect, why is he sending limited medical resources to children who will never even walk, when fully functional children with relatively minor disorders are dying because they don't have bottomless jesus freak pitybux? Seems like a bit of an oversight for the creator of everything.
But shit, what do I know? I'm not a know-it-all blogger with a religious bent parading about some over-medicated flesh puppet like an inspirational role model. Maybe they're onto something! Or, more likely, they've got about as much brains as poor Angela does.

 

[Mrs Paul]

Even if he had had more brain function when he was born, wouldn't hour long seizures (mom said the "record" was six hours?) cause brain damage on their own? Can't be much left if there ever was any...

Yep. Status epilepticus

 

[Jungle Princess]

 

[LogicBeetch]

I love how Matthew's parents do that 'we find it harder to receive than give' speech, like they haven't already raked in funds from various sources. But, NOW they're *really* asking people to help so that they can attend a seminar where, if you pay people just a little more money, they'll get someone in a lab coat to get your 1% brain function child to a 1.1% brain function.

What confuses me is that these people wouldn't let their animals suffer (I'm assuming) and would put them to sleep, but when it comes to their severely disabled/disfigured/ill children, they want to prolong the torture as long as possible for asspats and bc ~it's God's will. I would hope God wouldn't be such a cunt and put an innocent kid through shit like this only to live for years in pain and still have to be dressed up as Scrappy fucking Doo.

Yep! Sadly, the only species of animal that tries to keep a severely disfigured newborn alive is a homosapien. And, even then, that's a recent development in our evolutionary history. If a mother car has a FUBAR kitten, she walks away from it. Same with almost every other animal, except us, because animals intrinsically seem to understand that FUBAR body means FUBAR life or no life worth living. The religious fundamentalists are backing themselves into corners because it's only recently that we developed the ability to keep things alive to the extent that we do and if they allow their "miracle" to die, they get faith scorned at church. Ever been to a mom's day at a really big baptist church? It's judgement day and they can be catty little bitches. But, when one of them has a premie or a FUBAR kid, they rally the troops for prayer war and put that GoFundMe up because mom is "bravely" choosing life...even when nature and/or God say "are you fucking kidding me right now?"

I think some of these people are those weirdos that think death is the worst thing ever. They seem to think death is a horrible affair and there's nothing worse that could ever happen.

The ultimate irony being: as Christians, the goal is to sit with God in heaven and have faith that Jesus will lead a such a pure soul into the loving arms of father heaven (or something...). I've always wanted to ask one of these bible thumpers why they'd work against God's will if heaven is such a wonderful place. Just let that baby float on up to Jesus.

That's the thing. It's not God's will for a newborn whose condition is incompatible with life to be whisked way to an incubator and hooked up to tubes and monitors and breathing machines. God's will would be for them to die in their parents arms right after birth to prevent prolonged agony or pain. It is selfish as hell to keep that child alive and suffering just because the parents won't let go.

God's will seems to become more and more powerful right alongside medical and technological developments. Back in the thirties, people thought the Dionne Quints were fucking made of Jesus because they survived their micro preemie births. Now, it's almost like preemies are a dime a dozen and now God's saving these really broken infants. If they are truly believed their children were miracles, they'd take those feeding and breathing tubes out and get to prayin'. But, no, ... pretty soon, people will be mourning their period as a potential life.

For a lot of these types of parents, it's all me me me to them. They don't care how much their kid is suffering (or suffered), likewise, they don't care about other kids suffering.

Winner, winner! It *is* all about the parent. For one, the child certainly didn't sign up for years and years of pain, torture, illness, and oblivion. Second, it SHOULD BE illegal to use these kids as figure heads without consent. If someone posts a picture of their toddler in a bathing suit, fundies scream their fucking heads off about the sins of the flesh. They have fits over people aborting feti or embryos by saying, "there's no dignity in that." Well, what's dignified or respectful about showing your child's pain and suffering in the hopes that you get some asspats or faiith-credit? Did anyone ask Matthew or Lola if they liked having their seizures shown to the youtube universe so people could tell these mothers what a hard road they're walking and how courageous they are? Nope. Courage is putting the quality of life ahead of life for life's sake. Courage is saying, "this clearly wasn't what nature intended and I want to insure that my child doesn't suffer.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Christian Buchanan. Not nearly as bad as the Hartley Hooligans since he's conscious, but it's sad nonetheless.

He was born with severe facial deformities and his parents are using him as an inspirational story. They knew he was going to be a mess but decided not to abort because Jesus.
http://christianbuchanan.blogspot.com/
https://www.youtube.com/user/SuperChristiansMom
http://www.eyesofhopebook.com/
https://www.facebook.com/LaceyandChristianBuchanan/

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2017...birth-defect-is-seen-through-the-eyes-of-hope

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I feel more sad for this kid, because he's not exceptional. I guess there's always sunglasses. But plenty of blind people live decent lives, so in the long run he's less sad than all the other babies on here.


also I wound up on a page of 'frequently asked questions about cleft palate' from the university of iowa, and

My three-week-old son has a cleft palate and lip. We wanted to know if you would need the foreskin from his penis to correct his lip?
It would be highly unusual to repair a lip in that fashion.

 

[Sparklepants]

We have a tard baby at my church, and tbh it's incredibly frustrating. Because he's the oldest kid and they had pretty normal second and third kids, they're hellions. Screaming and running around during the service, being generally disruptive, and just unpleasant when they do manage to show up. They convinced the school district to give the oldest a high school diploma or something even though he's a vegetable.