Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

If you were Taylor Swift, whom would you rather date?

  • Russell Greer

    Votes: 117 4.5%
  • Travis Kelce

    Votes: 138 5.3%
  • Null

    Votes: 1,450 55.8%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 285 11.0%
  • Ariana Grande

    Votes: 609 23.4%

  • Total voters
    2,599
Welcome @NipplelessWoman!

I hope Russ activates his FB again soon so he can see this. He'll be shocked when he learns none of his music is on Taylor's playlist. Will this be another move he claims Swift made to get back at him?

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@NipplelessWoman welcome to the site. It's always nice to see more fellow Utahns on here. I wanted to thank you for sharing with us and offer my sympathies for what you've had to deal with knowing Russhole and how poorly he treated you (and every woman really).

I just have a few questions for you:

First, what finally drove you to call Russ out on his bullshit tonight? You've obviously put up with his nonsense for a LONG time, so I was curious as to what catalyst finally set you off?

Second, do you have any private nicknames for Russ that you use when referring to him? We have names like Shit Lips, Russhole, Slack Face, and Dildo Saggins for him. Obviously, we feel his "disability" is the least of his problems, and we aren't following him because of his Moebius Syndrome.

Thanks again!

1. It’s a two part thing. When Russell started saying that awful shit about Taylor Swifts Mom having cancer was when I completely turned away from being supportive. I had unfollowed him, but stayed his FB friend. I’ve had breast cancer, and cancer is shitty enough, Taylor’s Mom didn’t need to deal with a dumbass troll on top of it. So I had been simmering with the frustration. Well, I saw that he posted something via the farms. And it made me so mad that he felt like the judge didn’t give him ample time to explain, and started calling him fat. So I posted the “Sure Jan” meme to say, “what ever you say crazy. And it all escalated from there.

2. He’s become known as Strokey The Snowflake in my house.


Welcome @NipplelessWoman. I'm a little concerned for you here. You have a RL connection to Russ and your name and picture is all over this thread. We know Russ reads his thread. He's one of the few cows genuinely capable of violence, and certainly of acts of malice. Please prioritize your own safety!

(I wouldn't want my name and pic on the Farms on general principle -- buncha evil degenerates).

Honestly, not worried. He has no idea where I live. Plus, I live in a private community that’s hard to find and I’m no where near public transportation. And if all that fails, I got an arsenal. This is the Wild West after all.

Thank you so much for this. Do you have any stories about his antics we may not know about?

Not that I can think of right now. The biggest thing to emphasize is that he’s a sad little man. I really think he would have stayed with the LDS church if he had found a wife at the college. The church teaches you that if you serve a mission you will be blessed, and to him it meant finding a companion. But when he didn’t, he just broke. It just was a reminder to him that he was unloveable since birth. So he started going to brothels to find companionship. I really believe that if an LDS girl came along, he would go back to the church. He’s never disputed the church doctrine, and for the most part keeps to the LDS lifestyle minis the sexual/companion stuff. This one Brothers me the most because I’ve left the LDS church, and other exmormons fight the stereotype that people who leave the church just wants to sin.
 
Welcome @NipplelessWoman! Well done in smacking Russell around! I enjoyed it greatly!

You have interacted with this freak in person, I'd love to hear what you think about Russell's mind, thought process etc. He is not your typical retardo. Like why do you feel he just cant see how big of an idiot he is? Do you think he has brain damage, just full of himself, stubborn etc. I'd love to hear how you would explain Russell to someone who never interacted or met him in the real world. He is just so fucking out there for me I try to picture a day with him in real life! LOL

Personally, I think he must have been dropped on his head when he was a baby. More than once. Which the mom probably did when she saw the creature that came from her. HAHA But yeah, he is definitely a fascinating study for people like us who are interested in how someone like this can be! Someone who is just warped beyond all reason.

Oh yeah, is he a big pussy like we all think?
 
Welcome @NipplelessWoman, it's so exciting to have you here, you've been a blessing to us. Parroting everyone in agreeing that Strokey the Snowflake is fucking amazing!

I've heard some wild mormon stories in my day but can you please elaborate on this? I mean, I don't even know where to begin with my questions about this. If I was Russ, I'd definitely be bragging about expelling Satan.

The story behind it is Mormons believe there are certain spirits who are too special to be tempted, so they're given disabilities like cerebral palsy, Down syndrome, autism (for the most part, it's more-or-less for the severe end of it) and other maladies to protect them from Satan and his angels. So I get why everyone in his class was saying that, but unfortunately for them, they don't/didn't realize Moebius syndrome doesn't necessarily mean those afflicted can get a free pass into heaven. All it does is affect their facial muscles, not their mentality (and thus if they can determine good and evil and (I think consciously?) make their own choices and judgement on them), and thus Russ is fully aware of the choices he's making.

So if I could throw in my hat into the collective theory ring, my guess is Russell was a fence-sitter in the pre-existence. Someone really wanted Russell to stay, and managed to talk him into it. Who that saint of a spirit was, we can only guess at this point, but it's probably pointless to do so.
 
Welcome @NipplelessWoman, it's so exciting to have you here, you've been a blessing to us. Parroting everyone in agreeing that Strokey the Snowflake is fucking amazing!



The story behind it is Mormons believe there are certain spirits who are too special to be tempted, so they're given disabilities like cerebral palsy, Down syndrome, autism (for the most part, it's more-or-less for the severe end of it) and other maladies to protect them from Satan and his angels. So I get why everyone in his class was saying that, but unfortunately for them, they don't/didn't realize Moebius syndrome doesn't necessarily mean those afflicted can get a free pass into heaven. All it does is affect their facial muscles, not their mentality (and thus if they can determine good and evil and (I think consciously?) make their own choices and judgement on them), and thus Russ is fully aware of the choices he's making.

So if I could throw in my hat into the collective theory ring, my guess is Russell was a fence-sitter in the pre-existence. Someone really wanted Russell to stay, and managed to talk him into it. Who that saint of a spirit was, we can only guess at this point, but it's probably pointless to do so.

That's such a backhanded compliment.
 
Welcome @NipplelessWoman, it's so exciting to have you here, you've been a blessing to us. Parroting everyone in agreeing that Strokey the Snowflake is fucking amazing!

First of all, echoing this. That was an AMAZING smackdown, and honestly, it's something I've wanted to see someone say to Russ for a LONG while.

The story behind it is Mormons believe there are certain spirits who are too special to be tempted, so they're given disabilities like cerebral palsy, Down syndrome, autism (for the most part, it's more-or-less for the severe end of it) and other maladies to protect them from Satan and his angels. So I get why everyone in his class was saying that, but unfortunately for them, they don't/didn't realize Moebius syndrome doesn't necessarily mean those afflicted can get a free pass into heaven. All it does is affect their facial muscles, not their mentality (and thus if they can determine good and evil and (I think consciously?) make their own choices and judgement on them), and thus Russ is fully aware of the choices he's making.

Expanding on this, my understanding from Mormon friends and family is that they believe that all of the spirits in Heaven had to come to earth to get physical bodies as part of God's plan. But while being on Earth as humans, they could be tempted to sin, which would make them unable to go back to Heaven. So certain spirits who had basically proved themselves in Heaven were given bodies that didn't have any sort of real control, so that they *couldn't* be held responsible for their actions, and thus, couldn't sin.

But as Kari pointed out, this clearly doesn't apply to Russ. He's in control of his actions. He's just an asshole.

Also, based on what a friend told me, I don't think that's an official doctrine so much as one of the many Mormon Urban Legends that everyone in the Mormon church treats as doctrine. He said he thinks it's based on a story that some Mormon leader blessed a mentally/physically handicapped kid and then said that he was handicapped because he'd been one of the angels who'd personally thrown Satan out of Heaven.
 
Also, based on what a friend told me, I don't think that's an official doctrine so much as one of the many Mormon Urban Legends that everyone in the Mormon church treats as doctrine. He said he thinks it's based on a story that some Mormon leader blessed a mentally/physically handicapped kid and then said that he was handicapped because he'd been one of the angels who'd personally thrown Satan out of Heaven.

Yeah, there's a lot of those, and I do believe this is one of them. But then I remember the story of Jesus healing the disabled boy people believed came to be because of the parents' transgressions, and I once came across a talk by one of the apostles on the topic of suicide and depression, in that that's all up to God to judge if the person was clearly in control of their actions to make it a sin. I personally found that interesting and drew some parallels between it and other mental disorders, and so I ponder on that from time to time and that was what came to mind first thing when I found this thread as I find Russell to be fascinating as much as he is frustrating (and frightening) to observe.

I think at the end of the day, Russell will be on his own, and it's going to be all up to him on if he wants to face the consequences he's set himself up for. He's got plenty of time to do so, as impossible as it sounds with him--unless he ends up still dying as an asshole, but only time will tell. Deep down, I'm sure he's very much aware of that (I'm honestly kind of curious as to what he thinks about death in that regard, Mormons are mostly fearless and optimistic when it comes to the concept of death), but I doubt at this point that even a three-day coma to reflect back on his own transgressions will soften his heart and bring him to repentance.
 
Welcome @NipplelessWoman. I'm a little concerned for you here. You have a RL connection to Russ and your name and picture is all over this thread. We know Russ reads his thread. He's one of the few cows genuinely capable of violence, and certainly of acts of malice. Please prioritize your own safety!

(I wouldn't want my name and pic on the Farms on general principle -- buncha evil degenerates).

Second this.

I would say, at the very least, don't post in any other threads, and be careful.
 
I really think he would have stayed with the LDS church if he had found a wife at the college.
The fact that he couldn't find a wife during these years speaks volumes to what his character is.

There are people very close in my life who have incredibly deep and long ties to the LDS, Like, direct descendants of Parley B Pratt, Great grandparents lived in the mexican polygamy compounds... that level of church ties. (They've mostly all ex-communicated)

The urgency on both sides of the sexes to pair up and start making babies as soon as the mission is over is intense. It's just what you're "Supposed" to do as a good mormon, and standards can get lowered to an amazing degree in order to make sure you fit into "god's plan".

If Shitlips couldn't find a girl to hook up with there, then he truly is a disgusting character with zero redeeming qualities.

I’ve left the LDS church, and other exmormons fight the stereotype that people who leave the church just wants to sin.
The only people I've met who think this are those still in the mormon church. I think most people outside the religion are wising up to just how crazy the LDS is under that happy surface.
 
Katie you are a true hero!

The thing I'm most curious about: did Russell try to inject his "connections to the celebrity world" in daily conversations? Like, would he just drop "Oh, you know I can't study with the group today, I have to finish the song I'm writing for Katy Perry!" I've always wondered if his fixture on the world of celebrity, and his delusions of being a part of it, were a private/safe on the internet thing or a full on telling everyone possible thing.

I don't know the timeline matches up to his really going hard in trying to get famous, but at the very least did he seem usually fixated on that sort of thing?

Yes! He started the Taylor Swift antics in college. And he was just fucking fixated on her. He kept just trying to get everybody to like and share what he posted.
 
Welcome @NipplelessWoman! Well done in smacking Russell around! I enjoyed it greatly!

You have interacted with this freak in person, I'd love to hear what you think about Russell's mind, thought process etc. He is not your typical retardo. Like why do you feel he just cant see how big of an idiot he is? Do you think he has brain damage, just full of himself, stubborn etc. I'd love to hear how you would explain Russell to someone who never interacted or met him in the real world. He is just so fucking out there for me I try to picture a day with him in real life! LOL

Personally, I think he must have been dropped on his head when he was a baby. More than once. Which the mom probably did when she saw the creature that came from her. HAHA But yeah, he is definitely a fascinating study for people like us who are interested in how someone like this can be! Someone who is just warped beyond all reason.

Oh yeah, is he a big pussy like we all think?


He’s definitely not retarded. But he’s definitely a fucking narcissistic. I was told at one point he had bipolar disorder and was on medication for it. Around the time the Taylor Swift obsession started was when he stopped taking his medications. He’s always been a mild stalker, but once he hopped off his medication, it intensified. I think his obsession clouds his rational and he gets desperate as fuck. I don’t think he can see how crazy he is because of the narcissism and he’s so desperate to find acceptance.

He’s a little bitch. But I do think he will hurt a sex worker or someone someday.

@NipplelessWoman, Do you know anything about his parents? The parents that adopted him?
I've always been curious what his parents think of his antics, and if they help support him financially.
Thanks.

What I have been told is that they are super Mormon. They told him that they wouldn’t pay for his schooling unless he went on a mission. They had a falling out of some sort when he started not taking his medications. They wanted him on them, but he didn’t like how they made him feel. I was told that they stopped paying for stuff except his schooling.
 
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What I have been told is that they are super Mormon. They told him that they wouldn’t pay for his schooling unless he went on a mission. They had a falling out of some sort when he started not taking his medications. They wanted him on them, but he didn’t like how they made him feel. I was told that they stopped paying for stuff except his schooling.

Do you know if he has any actual real friends in his life at this point? It seems like MV has dropped him entirely and Soren pops by sometimes to troll him slightly. Did he have any friends at school? What are conversations like with him? From his book, it appears he struggles to understand humor or convey it. Is it the same in person?

Also, does he smell as bad as he looks? I’ve always been curious.


As a side note, his rage quit has ended. His FB is back now.
 
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Looks like Christmas came early this year! Thanks for dropping in, @NipplelessWoman .

The only thing I'm curious about that hasn't already been asked is if you know any details about his relationship with his (adoptive) sister. We've been speculating that he's maintained a relationship of some sort with her despite everything, but is there anything you can add to this? Whether it's info from his college days or more recent.
 
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