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I watched it being stoned as fuck and enjoyed quite a bit.

Pretty much everything about this movie has been said already, but I'll add my two cents:

The reason why this movie is getting such polarized reception is because it mixes so much of the old, yet tries to deconstruct most of it (Jedi aren't flawless heroes who have all the answers, hotshot pilots don't always save the day), so the 'Star Wars' bits that aren't challenged kinda feel out of place. I think this is what Freud called "the uncanny", the mix of familiar and unknown people find unsettling.
 
I think why it's so divisive is because when it reaches it's highs, they're high. But when it reaches it's lows, they feel like a fever dream of the prequels. But unlike the prequels, these are characters we know and like. No one gave a shit about anyone in AotC because they might as well have been cardboard cutouts reading from a phonebook in a monotone, but people like Luke. People like Kylo. So seeing them do things that frustrate us is far worse than seeing Jaxter Daxster do something dumb.
 
I DON'T HAVE A LAZY EYE HUX

Now all I can think about is shit like the Knights of Ren going on missions to get McNuggets from space McDonalds to see if the sand people are putting ebola in them and Kylo passing out, pissing himself, and then trying to insist it was just Dew.

I DONT WANNA BE A 4D SEX DICK ON STARKILLER BASE
 
TBQH, everyone ITT that dislikes the new movie is just a bigot Trump supporter GG Nazi.

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Ok I saw it cause a friend bought tickets. The only money coming out of my wallet was for food.

Most of it was unnecessary as fuck, particularly Finn and Rose's roles. Finn should've stayed in a coma for half the film.

The commander that took charge was garbage for allowing all those resources and people to go to waste.

They fucking destroyed Luke's character. I would've been happier if he'd gone off to some corner of space to find answers rather than mope till he died. They could've at least kept him to train Rey more or whatever.

I'm not too bugged by super-Leia cause I remembered that she was capable of using the force too. It was a tiny bit ridiculous visually though.

I'm mad there was no explanation for Snoke and his ulterior motives. Glad that they didn't make Rey a Skywalker.

Visuals are great as always. Always happy to see the use of practical effects. Give it a 6/10 my suggestion is to turn your brain off to enjoy.
 
I thought I stopped caring about Star Wars, but it turns out there was still enough of that stupid kid that grew up loving the original trilogy in me to get angry at how shit and stupid nearly everything in that fucking movie was. Christ, there was so much lost potential, and so much shit that made no sense, that it was enraging.
 
TBQH, everyone ITT that dislikes the new movie is just a bigot Trump supporter GG Nazi.

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None of the following needs to be said, but fuck it, I'm procrastinating at work today:

1) Pretty sure the backlash started with The Last Jedi started last year, hell maybe two years ago right after Star Wars: The Ma-Rey Sue Saga was released (okay, that was a bit forced). But let's say for sake of argument you're correct and the backlash didn't start until it was released... which makes absolute sense because usually people generate their opinions after experiencing something. Saying something like this is about as redundant as saying "People didn't wet until they ran through a waterfall." No shit.

2) Anyone who uses the word "woke" unironically deserves to be shot in the kneecap with a BB gun.

3) TBH I have no desire to watch the latest Star Wars movie. The pique of my interest was back in the late 90s, and the moment it completely tanked was right before Phantom Menace was released and every-fucking-where I looked was Star Wars bullshit. That said, I can't objectively say how "progressive" and "forward-looking" the movie is...

...but I can tell you it is a Disney property and therefore I can be 99% certain its going to be geared to pander to as many people as possible. It won't throw out many curve-balls, and it won't be trying to tell any difficult plot narrations. It especially won't challenge you to think to hard about anything- just recline back, stare vacuously at the screen and enjoy the moving lights and color. They do their job if you feel compelled to go out, tell other people to watch the movie, and hey, buy some merchandise. Seriously, you think those Porg-things aren't a deliberate effort to rake in extra money?

4) "Women lead the way," Yes, because the prequels didn't have Padme, and the original trilogy didn't have Leia on Mon Mothma. Again, not new.

That all said, if you like The Last Jedi, I ain't gonna hold it against you. Just don't expect me to give a shit either way.
 
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I just can't help but question this film's obsession with attacking people wanting a more mature Star Wars. Yes, it's trying to bring Star Wars back to it's root but that just further fetishizes the original trilogy. If people want the original trilogy, they'll watch the original trilogy in spite of the notorious edits. It's pretty much a giant middle finger to anyone who doesn't see Star Wars as a bunch of simple, highly marketable fairy tales. Throw this in with Disney discarding the EU which further explored the setting, maybe they actually just want it to be infantalized?

Yeah, this has been something that's been in my head since the "hope high" of last night calmed down. Star Wars is more than just a couple movies. George Lucas defended the prequels with "they're for kids" (insert Plinkett's rebuttal here), but Disney almost seems to be doubling down on that mindset with the main installments. There's still the anomaly that is Rogue One, but maybe that was just a means to make people adverse to the things TLJ attacks.

Also, can't help but feel they have no idea what they're doing with this trilogy. Even when Lucas was making the originals up as he went along, he was still building off of what he had already established. This movie felt like Vader tossing away his ambitions to overthrow the Emperor in RotJ, like they looked at TFA and said "screw this. Chuck these parts into the garbage."
 
Idk I do like the new trilogy for giving us Kylo, because he's a dumb edgy fuckboy and it's hilarious (and kind of endearing).

Also apparently TLJ has also given people a way to look at Adam Driver without clothes on that doesn't also put them at risk of seeing Lena Dunham's disgusting body and tbh that's pretty noble.
 
I thought I stopped caring about Star Wars, but it turns out there was still enough of that stupid kid that grew up loving the original trilogy in me to get angry at how shit and stupid nearly everything in that fucking movie was. Christ, there was so much lost potential, and so much shit that made no sense, that it was enraging.

"The Force is female" isn't just a slogan

Rey in the first film beats Kylo Ren, physically, and with the mind trick, with no training or knowledge, beating someone whos trained by Skywalker and who has fallen to the dark side.

Leia with no training at all other than being told she has a gift with the force, cheats death and flies through the vacuum of space. Making her possibly more powerful than the emperor who couldn't stop himself falling into a ship power core. While Luke Skywalker, a supposed Master Jedi, dies just showing a projection of himself to someone.

Even fan fiction has more logical consistency, it's hilarious.
 
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I just can't help but question this film's obsession with attacking people wanting a more mature Star Wars. Yes, it's trying to bring Star Wars back to it's root but that just further fetishizes the original trilogy. If people want the original trilogy, they'll watch the original trilogy in spite of the notorious edits. It's pretty much a giant middle finger to anyone who doesn't see Star Wars as a bunch of simple, highly marketable fairy tales. Throw this in with Disney discarding the EU which further explored the setting, maybe they actually just want it to be infantalized?

Yeah, this has been something that's been in my head since the "hope high" of last night calmed down. Star Wars is more than just a couple movies. George Lucas defended the prequels with "they're for kids" (insert Plinkett's rebuttal here), but Disney almost seems to be doubling down on that mindset with the main installments. There's still the anomaly that is Rogue One, but maybe that was just a means to make people adverse to the things TLJ attacks.

Also, can't help but feel they have no idea what they're doing with this trilogy. Even when Lucas was making the originals up as he went along, he was still building off of what he had already established. This movie felt like Vader tossing away his ambitions to overthrow the Emperor in RotJ, like they looked at TFA and said "screw this. Chuck these parts into the garbage."

they are baby movies for babies you baby
 
"The Force is female" isn't just a slogan

Rey in the first film beats Kylo Ren, physically, and with the mind trick, with no training or knowledge, beating someone whos trained by Skywalker and who has fallen to the dark side.

Leia with no training at all other than being told she has a gift with the force, cheats death and flies through the vacuum of space. Making her possibly more powerful than the emperor who couldn't stop himself falling into a ship power core. While Luke Skywalker, a supposed Master Jedi, dies just showing a projection of himself to someone.

Even fan fiction has more logical consistency, it's hilarious.

Some fan fiction writers have at least half a brain working. This movie is brainless action movie. I doubt even that there is a message like that, its just more like :

"Hey lets have Leia do force stuff!"
"Like what? Lift rocks?"
"Nah lets make her fly in space."
"Whoa cool man pass me some weed willya?"
 
Some fan fiction writers have at least half a brain working. This movie is brainless action movie. I doubt even that there is a message like that, its just more like :

"Hey lets have Leia do force stuff!"
"Like what? Lift rocks?"
"Nah lets make her fly in space."
"Whoa cool man pass me some weed willya?"

Yeah you'd think so.

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Also, can't help but feel they have no idea what they're doing with this trilogy. Even when Lucas was making the originals up as he went along, he was still building off of what he had already established. This movie felt like Vader tossing away his ambitions to overthrow the Emperor in RotJ, like they looked at TFA and said "screw this. Chuck these parts into the garbage."

This. That is a huge problem with this movie as this feels like tonally a totally different movie from TFA. I mean this film took all the wrong lessons from TFA and said,"those cool and interesting parts that lead people to wonder what was going on? Yeah fuck those parts!" It would have been cool to explore the Knights of Ren with perhaps Kylo conspiring with them to overthrow Snoke if he had to die in such a stupid way. Oh well, this movie will more than likely make bank and we can only hope that the 9th movie can fix the errors of this one.
 
"The Force is female" isn't just a slogan

Rey in the first film beats Kylo Ren, physically, and with the mind trick, with no training or knowledge, beating someone whos trained by Skywalker and who has fallen to the dark side.

Leia with no training at all other than being told she has a gift with the force, cheats death and flies through the vacuum of space. Making her possibly more powerful than the emperor who couldn't stop himself falling into a ship power core. While Luke Skywalker, a supposed Master Jedi, dies just showing a projection of himself to someone.

Even fan fiction has more logical consistency, it's hilarious.

Rey has not only taken down Kylo one-on-one, she beat Luke Skywalker in a straight up fight, again, without any fucking training. That death stare Mark Hamill that chortling cuck of a writer/director that's doing the rounds on youtube makes so much more sense now that I've seen the movie.
 
Rey has not only taken down Kylo one-on-one, she beat Luke Skywalker in a straight up fight, again, without any fucking training. That death stare Mark Hamill that chortling cuck of a writer/director that's doing the rounds on youtube makes so much more sense now that I've seen the movie.

Remember though, before you say anything

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