Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

Parasitic Twins is a phenomenon I find really interesting. This poor little scrap below has no proper internal organs, no arms or legs or lower torso and survives purely on its more complete sibling's organs working double time. Even as it looks like they'll both die if they aren't separated, the doctors and parents still have to debate whether it's okay with Allah to let the parasitic twin die a peaceful medically induced death.

 
Parasitic Twins is a phenomenon I find really interesting. This poor little scrap below has no proper internal organs, no arms or legs or lower torso and survives purely on its more complete sibling's organs working double time. Even as it looks like they'll both die if they aren't separated, the doctors and parents still have to debate whether it's okay with Allah to let the parasitic twin die a peaceful medically induced death.


They both are dead, they did remove the second head at 10 months but the girl died before 2 years of age due to reoccurring brain infections that plagued her after the surgery.
 
I have an older adult cousin with downs. Downs propagandists almost exclusively show only those who are high functioning (although they never admit even the highest functioning ones can ever be truly independent). They do not want people to know about everybody who isn't high functioning, like my cousin. My cousin is roughly the same mental age as a kindergartner, and not an intelligent one. She struggles to understand anything more complicated than a Disney movie (and probably not the more recent ones because my aunt and uncle were/are very conservative) and shows little interest in the outside world. My cousin is incapable of cleaning or (especially) cooking. As far as I can remember she can bathe herself, and dress herself, but that's pretty much it. She is 100% dependent on her parent's care.

So think about it. An adult with the mental age of a five year old, completely reliant on the care of others until the day they die. Do you really want someone like her to try and have a baby, let alone care for one? Even under the supervision of capable adults it's not a good idea. I don't think it's eugenics, I think it's common sense that you don't want a kid having/caring for kids. If you wouldn't want a five year old to watch a newborn for, say, a few hours, what makes my cousin any different?

Side note: she was diagnosed with Alzheimers several years back, in her 40's. I imagine she's degenerated considerably since then.
 
Do you really want someone like her to try and have a baby, let alone care for one? Even under the supervision of capable adults it's not a good idea. I don't think it's eugenics, I think it's common sense that you don't want a kid having/caring for kids.
One of the more controversial Supreme Court decisions ever was Buck v. Bell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_v._Bell), which upheld a Virginia state law permitting the compulsory sterilization of the intellectually disabled. In practice, the decision (which contained the immortal line "Three generations of imbeciles are enough") led to the rise of eugenic sterilization laws throughout the US.

While the decision has never been explicitly overturned, it's highly doubtful that it would survive any challenge.

Some geneticists believe that Cyclopia may be caused in part by mutated Sonic Hedgehog (SHH) gene.
In an attempt to lighten things up, wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if the Sonic The Hedgehog gene was involved in causing autism?
 
In an attempt to lighten things up, wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if the Sonic The Hedgehog gene was involved in causing autism?
I'd say the gene's implication in creating mutant tardbabies for white trash mommy bloggers to showcase is pretty autistic already. Also, considering how hideous, deformed and cancerous the Sonic fanbase is, along with the fact that SHH gene is shown to be a factor in some types of cancer... it's perfect enough.
 
Has anyone seen this kid Samuel Mann? I was wondering what opinions some pf the good folks here have of him.
I have kind of mixed feelings. He seems happy and he laughs and smiles a lot, but at the same time I get a sense of aversion similar to when I see the Hartleys, Matthew Nel and other tard babies. The story Michael's parents tell is similar to other fundie/tard parents. They were given his diagnosis before he was born and the doctors mentioned that they could terminate the pregnancy. They of course refused.
Now they talk about what a miracle he is because he has survived longer than the initial prognosis, but he doesn't walk, doesn't really talk. He can form a few simple words, but he doesn't seem to know what they actually mean.
Also, those raspy, congested, death-rattle noises that come from him, combined with his ever present snotty nose makes me feel ill.
So I don't know what to think about him. He's obviously more aware than the Hartleys or Matthew and he doesn't seem to be suffering at least not in this particular video, but so many hundreds of thousands of dollars have gone to keeping him alive when he'll never progress beyond the barely functional state he's in now and most likely his medical issues will only get worse as he gets older.

Also, does Chris, the guy in the video seem a bit off-putting to anyone else? He's doing what should seem like a really good thing by interviewing these different types of kids, trying to get the world to see their humanity, but there's something that just seems not right about him. His mannerisms, his laugh, his way of speaking all just come off kind of phony. At least that's how I felt and I just wondered if anyone else had the same impressions of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayt465ueRgM
 
Has anyone seen this kid Samuel Mann? I was wondering what opinions some pf the good folks here have of him.
I have kind of mixed feelings. He seems happy and he laughs and smiles a lot, but at the same time I get a sense of aversion similar to when I see the Hartleys, Matthew Nel and other tard babies. The story Michael's parents tell is similar to other fundie/tard parents. They were given his diagnosis before he was born and the doctors mentioned that they could terminate the pregnancy. They of course refused.
Now they talk about what a miracle he is because he has survived longer than the initial prognosis, but he doesn't walk, doesn't really talk. He can form a few simple words, but he doesn't seem to know what they actually mean.
Also, those raspy, congested, death-rattle noises that come from him, combined with his ever present snotty nose makes me feel ill.
So I don't know what to think about him. He's obviously more aware than the Hartleys or Matthew and he doesn't seem to be suffering at least not in this particular video, but so many hundreds of thousands of dollars have gone to keeping him alive when he'll never progress beyond the barely functional state he's in now and most likely his medical issues will only get worse as he gets older.

Also, does Chris, the guy in the video seem a bit off-putting to anyone else? He's doing what should seem like a really good thing by interviewing these different types of kids, trying to get the world to see their humanity, but there's something that just seems not right about him. His mannerisms, his laugh, his way of speaking all just come off kind of phony. At least that's how I felt and I just wondered if anyone else had the same impressions of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayt465ueRgM
I think if a kid has the sentience of a guinea pig and can react to things on some level and it isn't just all the pain all the time it is different than these poor almost brainless potatoes who are constantly having seizures and if they have an awareness of anything it is just a horrible hell of pain and misery. The parents I have a problem with are the ones who use medical intervention to extend a life even though it would be more humane to allow death to happen shortly after birth. Usually doctors use the term 'incompatible with life.' Any of those cases piss me off at the parent's for being selfish assholes. But I don't get that feeling with this kid.
 
I have an older adult cousin with downs. Downs propagandists almost exclusively show only those who are high functioning (although they never admit even the highest functioning ones can ever be truly independent). They do not want people to know about everybody who isn't high functioning, like my cousin. My cousin is roughly the same mental age as a kindergartner, and not an intelligent one. She struggles to understand anything more complicated than a Disney movie (and probably not the more recent ones because my aunt and uncle were/are very conservative) and shows little interest in the outside world. My cousin is incapable of cleaning or (especially) cooking. As far as I can remember she can bathe herself, and dress herself, but that's pretty much it. She is 100% dependent on her parent's care.

So think about it. An adult with the mental age of a five year old, completely reliant on the care of others until the day they die. Do you really want someone like her to try and have a baby, let alone care for one? Even under the supervision of capable adults it's not a good idea. I don't think it's eugenics, I think it's common sense that you don't want a kid having/caring for kids. If you wouldn't want a five year old to watch a newborn for, say, a few hours, what makes my cousin any different?

Side note: she was diagnosed with Alzheimers several years back, in her 40's. I imagine she's degenerated considerably since then.

Tumblr does. If you deny a sped the right to have a child you are being "ableist" regardless of whether said sped can take care of another life or not.
 
I think if a kid has the sentience of a guinea pig and can react to things on some level and it isn't just all the pain all the time it is different than these poor almost brainless potatoes who are constantly having seizures and if they have an awareness of anything it is just a horrible hell of pain and misery. The parents I have a problem with are the ones who use medical intervention to extend a life even though it would be more humane to allow death to happen shortly after birth. Usually doctors use the term 'incompatible with life.' Any of those cases piss me off at the parent's for being selfish assholes. But I don't get that feeling with this kid.

Well said. I have no problem with Samuel Mann. He seems happy, well cared for, has a life-not one any of us would want, but a life all the same. He can laugh, enjoy his favorite food, watch TV, even give high-fives....yeah, he has a breathing tube which makes those raspy noises and is unpleasant for us to hear and see, but it doesn’t hurt him.

His parents aren’t e-begging, they just agreed to be on this guy’s show. I have no problem with him and his parents have the right to have kept him, which I wouldn’t want taken away. Although I’m an atheist, I err on the pro-life side. Mostly because being involved with the medical field, I’ve seen way too many guesses/statistics gone wrong (or right). Scans, tests, ultrasounds are imperfect and have been wrong a lot.

So yes, while I likely would take the advice and terminate if I heard my kid had a condition considered incompatible with life-I don’t blame those who don’t. Even if their reasons are because of religion which seems dumb, it’s better than having no choice. I know their kid didn’t survive because of a miracle but because they fell on the right side of the median which happens often. However, there is the chance you’ll be left with a Lola rather than a Samuel. It’s too bad we can’t tell for sure but we cannot. Hopefully, genetics will come far enough so we can control these things.

That Chris guy, otoh, does seem like a weirdo to me. Interviewing highly deformed children for his YouTube channel seems more like a money-making scam than it does showing “miracles” or whatever he says he’s doing. I have only seen a couple of videos so I could be wrong, but it seems like he wants to find the most visually disturbing kids he can. Not much different than a freak show, if true.
 
Well said. I have no problem with Samuel Mann. He seems happy, well cared for, has a life-not one any of us would want, but a life all the same. He can laugh, enjoy his favorite food, watch TV, even give high-fives....yeah, he has a breathing tube which makes those raspy noises and is unpleasant for us to hear and see, but it doesn’t hurt him.

His parents aren’t e-begging, they just agreed to be on this guy’s show. I have no problem with him and his parents have the right to have kept him, which I wouldn’t want taken away. Although I’m an atheist, I err on the pro-life side. Mostly because being involved with the medical field, I’ve seen way too many guesses/statistics gone wrong (or right). Scans, tests, ultrasounds are imperfect and have been wrong a lot.

So yes, while I likely would take the advice and terminate if I heard my kid had a condition considered incompatible with life-I don’t blame those who don’t. Even if their reasons are because of religion which seems dumb, it’s better than having no choice. I know their kid didn’t survive because of a miracle but because they fell on the right side of the median which happens often. However, there is the chance you’ll be left with a Lola rather than a Samuel. It’s too bad we can’t tell for sure but we cannot. Hopefully, genetics will come far enough so we can control these things.

That Chris guy, otoh, does seem like a weirdo to me. Interviewing highly deformed children for his YouTube channel seems more like a money-making scam than it does showing “miracles” or whatever he says he’s doing. I have only seen a couple of videos so I could be wrong, but it seems like he wants to find the most visually disturbing kids he can. Not much different than a freak show, if true.

Chris the supreme Chad of tard wranglers or whatever the fuck his name is makes my skin crawl. He comes across as insincere and smarmy, and a @Barbarella says, seems like he's exploiting these children for views and those sweet YouTube shekels. He does give off a bit of a kiddy fiddler vibe but i saw one of his vids where he has an attractive gf so it's probably just that he's a creepy weirdo rather than a child molester. idk, smh tbh fam.
 
In an attempt to lighten things up, wouldn't it be fucking hilarious if the Sonic The Hedgehog gene was involved in causing autism?

Hold your horses there. Popular word is that the SHH gene causes autism, but the article doesn’t explicitly say so; rather it suggests that oxidative stress might play a factor.
Basically, the abstract says that oxidative stress levels correlate directly with the amounts of SHH found in kids with the ‘tism. While this is enough to make most people immediately confirm their belief that Sonic humorously does cause autism, I’d like to remind people that correlation =/= causation. After all, what factors trigger the protein to be made in copious amounts? If large amounts inhibits cellular growth, wouldn’t that inhibit the amount of protein being produced? Is it that the amount of free radicals triggers the production of more SHH to begin with? Or maybe children with ASD just happen to produce more as the result of some other factor to begin with. SHH is the most widely studied gene, and even has its own counterpart (see robotnokinin), but like many of you, I’m too lazy to dig further and I need to sleep.
 
Also, does Chris, the guy in the video seem a bit off-putting to anyone else? He's doing what should seem like a really good thing by interviewing these different types of kids, trying to get the world to see their humanity, but there's something that just seems not right about him. His mannerisms, his laugh, his way of speaking all just come off kind of phony. At least that's how I felt and I just wondered if anyone else had the same impressions of him.
There's something very very off about Malibu Ken but I'm having trouble putting my finger on just exactly what it is. On the surface (as you said) it seems as if he's trying to do something good but I get the feeling that he's trying to get YouTube hits by appealing to peoples' more visceral natures. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if he went into a deeper medical explanation of the natures of his subjects' disabilities, but I dunno.

The funny thing is, as condescending as he comes across on video, he was way more condescending when he was trying to interact with Claire and Lola.
 
There's something very very off about Malibu Ken but I'm having trouble putting my finger on just exactly what it is. On the surface (as you said) it seems as if he's trying to do something good but I get the feeling that he's trying to get YouTube hits by appealing to peoples' more visceral natures. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if he went into a deeper medical explanation of the natures of his subjects' disabilities, but I dunno.

The funny thing is, as condescending as he comes across on video, he was way more condescending when he was trying to interact with Claire and Lola.

He's riding on the backs of deformed or disabled kids to get some e-fame and adulation. It's similar to Gwen in the sense he gets lauded for being a "hero" for showcasing these kids as amazing miracles. It's a creepy way to try and get e-famous and youtube ad revenue for a guy his age, but I guess it's working. I'd say his demographic is similar to the morning talkshows - mix of religious housewives looking for heartwarming stories to those who want a freakshow dressed up as "heartwarming" so they don't feels as guilty about gawking.
 
I have an older adult cousin with downs. Downs propagandists almost exclusively show only those who are high functioning (although they never admit even the highest functioning ones can ever be truly independent). They do not want people to know about everybody who isn't high functioning, like my cousin. My cousin is roughly the same mental age as a kindergartner, and not an intelligent one. She struggles to understand anything more complicated than a Disney movie (and probably not the more recent ones because my aunt and uncle were/are very conservative) and shows little interest in the outside world. My cousin is incapable of cleaning or (especially) cooking. As far as I can remember she can bathe herself, and dress herself, but that's pretty much it. She is 100% dependent on her parent's care.

So think about it. An adult with the mental age of a five year old, completely reliant on the care of others until the day they die. Do you really want someone like her to try and have a baby, let alone care for one? Even under the supervision of capable adults it's not a good idea. I don't think it's eugenics, I think it's common sense that you don't want a kid having/caring for kids. If you wouldn't want a five year old to watch a newborn for, say, a few hours, what makes my cousin any different?

Side note: she was diagnosed with Alzheimers several years back, in her 40's. I imagine she's degenerated considerably since then.

These organizations that are supposedly there to ''help'' these individuals actually seem to try to play down the severity of Down Syndrome. I notice they really try to push the idea of career opportunities and independent living for them too when we all know this is practically an impossibility.
 
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