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So I'm just about through investigating this story (I think so anyway) and I may have gotten a potential answer about what made this catfishing empire "tick".
What usually happens when I've exhausted something as much as possible is that Google starts flagging my addresses as suspicious and requiring me to enter a CAPTCHA every time I want to try a new search string:
Anyway, lets start with how I assume Patrick and co make their money: online advertising and multi level marketing schemes (which explains why they have so many fucking twitter accounts and seem to have an interest in gaining large numbers of followers.
The best indication I have that this is true is a username of his. There's also a possible pseudonym "James" and of course a severe case of over promising and under delivering as well as accusations that he not only plagiarized posts from other forums but also created dozens of sock accounts. If this is true then this all crumbled away sometime in 2015/2016. (he also spells Phil as "Phill")
Besides all of that, he points to "personal circumstances" in October 2015 as being a reason behind delays (which is something he also mentioned when delayed his Sims mods as you'll see further down the page):
https://www.verdienonlinegeldforum....iscussie)/geldverdienenopinternetforum-nl/40/
http://archive.fo/41Ijc
Although the writing is quite different to the Mysterywoman persona, we know that when Patrick wants to be serious, he can write properly (Sons of Falcon).
Anyway, that's something I can't be 100% certain on just yet.
Moving on to my best explanation for the Mysterywoman persona... severe cabin fever combined with economic hardship, personal loss and other factors which will never be fully known. As much as I hate to humanize people who have done things like these two, sometimes shit happens to humans that isn't the greatest.
As I'm sure anyone who has read this thread and the mysterywoman thread knows, its also extremely difficult to know where the truth begins and ends, but here are some screenshots:
Patrick's own words were that his son started having health issues (not shown here but in other posts) and then he himself had "health problems" sometime around 2006:
https://www.piratesahoy.net/threads/master-expansion-updated-v0-31.3735/page-5
http://archive.fo/LykJb
In various online profiles he claimed to be a "retired game developer". Retired is a very broad term and there can be instances where people are forced into retirement at a fairly young age (he was in his early 40s when he "retired" I believe)
Patrick's profile on the "Trainz Discussion Forum" lists his occupation as "Retired / Homebound":
https://forums.auran.com/trainz/member.php?150457-Patrick31
http://archive.fo/xPujr
In mid 2009 a user on a Sims forum indicated that Patrick had recently lost someone who was very close to him:
https://www.modthesims.info/archive/index.php?t-357537.html
http://archive.fo/bshbW
At some stage around 2011 or earlier (possibly 2009 when Patrick lost someone who was "close to him") Brenda had people asking about her son being taken by the government:
https://archive.fo/LuJfv
(more discussion of that by @Nope here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/patri...ab1971-patrick31vw.38531/page-35#post-2977302)
In late 2015 Patrick's Tumblr dedicated to his Sims game mods alluded to some "life altering events":
http://cyberops.tumblr.com/post/135346041365/mod-updates
http://archive.fo/aSAwk
In late 2017 (a mere 2 months before the Kimberlie Brink saga) Patrick posted on some Sims forum about not even having a PC. He seems to indicate that the PC he did manage to get may not even be adequate to run The Sims 3 (which would mean its a piece of shit):
http://www.modthesims.info/archive/index.php?t-552987.html
http://archive.fo/aIlfB
Based upon all of these posts, it appears that Patrick may have a severe health issue which prevents him from being able to work fully or leave his house, I wasn't able to find what the specific health issue may be though.
He seemed to have immersed himself in the game modding community for many, many years and never managed to deliver any fully featured product. His skills in modding were highly praised on occasion, but seem limited to making coding adjustments and working/improving/compiling other's mods. Over time its apparent he had become notorious for over promising and under delivering as well as misappropriating the creations of others to try and hype up his own products.
After the government took away their child at some stage around 2009 - 2011 its plausible that Patrick and Brenda (or perhaps only one of them) turned inwards and began their catfishing empire. It is not known if they massively profited from this scheme (although there does exist an Amazon wishlist) or whether crimes such as blackmail or extortion occurred behind the scenes, although it seems very likely that the effort to deceive people began at around this time.
Patrick being unable to have a PC which was even capable of playing The Sims points to likely economic hardship and probably desperation to make ends meet to some extent (assuming he isn't receiving government support because of his unknown injury/illness).
Its still very unclear whether he/she/they were just fucking with DSP via the Kimberlie Brink persona or there was something going on behind the scenes and we probably will never know.
What usually happens when I've exhausted something as much as possible is that Google starts flagging my addresses as suspicious and requiring me to enter a CAPTCHA every time I want to try a new search string:
Anyway, lets start with how I assume Patrick and co make their money: online advertising and multi level marketing schemes (which explains why they have so many fucking twitter accounts and seem to have an interest in gaining large numbers of followers.
The best indication I have that this is true is a username of his. There's also a possible pseudonym "James" and of course a severe case of over promising and under delivering as well as accusations that he not only plagiarized posts from other forums but also created dozens of sock accounts. If this is true then this all crumbled away sometime in 2015/2016. (he also spells Phil as "Phill")
Besides all of that, he points to "personal circumstances" in October 2015 as being a reason behind delays (which is something he also mentioned when delayed his Sims mods as you'll see further down the page):
https://www.verdienonlinegeldforum....iscussie)/geldverdienenopinternetforum-nl/40/
http://archive.fo/41Ijc
Although the writing is quite different to the Mysterywoman persona, we know that when Patrick wants to be serious, he can write properly (Sons of Falcon).
Anyway, that's something I can't be 100% certain on just yet.
Moving on to my best explanation for the Mysterywoman persona... severe cabin fever combined with economic hardship, personal loss and other factors which will never be fully known. As much as I hate to humanize people who have done things like these two, sometimes shit happens to humans that isn't the greatest.
As I'm sure anyone who has read this thread and the mysterywoman thread knows, its also extremely difficult to know where the truth begins and ends, but here are some screenshots:
Patrick's own words were that his son started having health issues (not shown here but in other posts) and then he himself had "health problems" sometime around 2006:
https://www.piratesahoy.net/threads/master-expansion-updated-v0-31.3735/page-5
http://archive.fo/LykJb
In various online profiles he claimed to be a "retired game developer". Retired is a very broad term and there can be instances where people are forced into retirement at a fairly young age (he was in his early 40s when he "retired" I believe)
Patrick's profile on the "Trainz Discussion Forum" lists his occupation as "Retired / Homebound":
https://forums.auran.com/trainz/member.php?150457-Patrick31
http://archive.fo/xPujr
In mid 2009 a user on a Sims forum indicated that Patrick had recently lost someone who was very close to him:
https://www.modthesims.info/archive/index.php?t-357537.html
http://archive.fo/bshbW
At some stage around 2011 or earlier (possibly 2009 when Patrick lost someone who was "close to him") Brenda had people asking about her son being taken by the government:
https://archive.fo/LuJfv
(more discussion of that by @Nope here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/patri...ab1971-patrick31vw.38531/page-35#post-2977302)
In late 2015 Patrick's Tumblr dedicated to his Sims game mods alluded to some "life altering events":
http://cyberops.tumblr.com/post/135346041365/mod-updates
http://archive.fo/aSAwk
In late 2017 (a mere 2 months before the Kimberlie Brink saga) Patrick posted on some Sims forum about not even having a PC. He seems to indicate that the PC he did manage to get may not even be adequate to run The Sims 3 (which would mean its a piece of shit):
http://www.modthesims.info/archive/index.php?t-552987.html
http://archive.fo/aIlfB
Based upon all of these posts, it appears that Patrick may have a severe health issue which prevents him from being able to work fully or leave his house, I wasn't able to find what the specific health issue may be though.
He seemed to have immersed himself in the game modding community for many, many years and never managed to deliver any fully featured product. His skills in modding were highly praised on occasion, but seem limited to making coding adjustments and working/improving/compiling other's mods. Over time its apparent he had become notorious for over promising and under delivering as well as misappropriating the creations of others to try and hype up his own products.
After the government took away their child at some stage around 2009 - 2011 its plausible that Patrick and Brenda (or perhaps only one of them) turned inwards and began their catfishing empire. It is not known if they massively profited from this scheme (although there does exist an Amazon wishlist) or whether crimes such as blackmail or extortion occurred behind the scenes, although it seems very likely that the effort to deceive people began at around this time.
Patrick being unable to have a PC which was even capable of playing The Sims points to likely economic hardship and probably desperation to make ends meet to some extent (assuming he isn't receiving government support because of his unknown injury/illness).
Its still very unclear whether he/she/they were just fucking with DSP via the Kimberlie Brink persona or there was something going on behind the scenes and we probably will never know.
