Disaster Mass shooting at florida high school - Beware the autism

http://www.wesh.com/article/multiple-injuries-reported-in-shooting-at-florida-high-school/17887738

Multiple people have been injured in an active shooter situation at a high school in south Florida, police confirmed.

The Broward Sheriff's Office is responding to the shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.

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The Coral Springs Police Department is asking students and teachers to remain barricaded inside until police reach you.

According to WSVN, at least three people were seen surrounded by first responders and one person was seen being wheeled into an ambulance. There are reports of up to 20 injuries.
 
Well, that big shiny new wall should take care of them, right?

But if you don't want to compare it to Australia, how about to Canada? Or Most of Europe? Canada has the US to the south, and they seem to have a handle on guns pretty good.

But lets do nothing. Criminals will be criminals, why bother ever having laws?

New York and California now have stricter laws then Canada, and if the new bill pass in Massachusetts it soon will too. If you want specifics I can give you links but its a patch work of laws kinda thing.

Also if anything American should be compared to the BRICs nations as we have a much closer economic make up and demographic distribution like them.

Comparing the US to Denmark is like comparing Brazil to Korea.

Be it murder, crime, per capita income, military spending, healthcare etc. etc. etc.
 
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The main issue that exists for any form of direct gun control like the ones you suggest lies here. This is absolutely impossible to do and implement unless you create an even more invasive surveillance state than we already have, and if that's the route you wanna go then it would be much more effective to monitor people rather than grey market transactions.
So something like a registry then. Where you have to tell police or whoever where you live, what guns you have and report when you move so they can keep track of them? I can't think of any other mechanic that accomplishes "to keep track of" them.
I'm well aware of these problems, and like I said before I don't know of a solution that would be effective and not infringe on people's rights. I'm just tired of this "WE SHOULD TAKE ALL THE GUNS/THEY GONNA TAKE ALL MUH GUNS" talking point that happens whenever the topic of gun control comes around.
 
You can't track all those guns that are legally,let alone illegally, in the wild. It's fucking impossible.


Never claimed such a thing. I would love gun safety courses or something like that as a requirement, but that only helps with things like accidental discharges. It's also an important part for many Americans, including myself, to be able to defend myself from those that want to do me harm and not have to rely on the police being quick enough to help me so use "any yokel and his uncle" who are well to do citizens should be able to buy guns whether it's from a store or their neighbor.

So then we change nothing and we just accept the deaths.

Again, you seem to be jumping to this "they're gonna take our guns!" idea, when that's not at all what anyone has mentioned. Having to take a class in order to be licenced to own a gun isn't unreasonable, and it could deter many people from wanting to bother, especially those who need a gun in a hurry in order to commit a crime. Also, maybe you can buy a gun from your neighbor, but of course you must register it right?
 
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So something like a registry then. Where you have to tell police or whoever where you live, what guns you have and report when you move so they can keep track of them? I can't think of any other mechanic that accomplishes "to keep track of" them.

Because if there's any group known to be responsible with power and respect civil rights, it's American police.
 
Wtf kiwis, you're given a genuine incel that decided to shoot up a school on Valentine's day and you're arguing over gun control and what constitutes an automatic weapon? r/worldnews is the place for that nonsense and tedium. School shootings and communism, apparently these are two topics that may only be used as honey pots.
 
Whenever a gun debate comes up, I tend to look at it from a different angle.

From 2000-2018 school shooting casualties have almost eclipsed the total amount of school shooting casualties from the last 100 years 1900-1999.

Now automatic firearms weren't just invented in the year 2000. So whats the reason?

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New York and California now have stricter laws then Canada, and if the new bill pass in Massachusetts it soon will too.

Also if anything American should be compared to the BRICs nations as we have a much closer economic make up and demographic distribution like them.

Comparing the US to Denmark is like comparing Brazil to Korea.

Be it murder, crime, per capita income, military spending, healthcare etc. etc. etc.
LOL, with Scandinavia's rapefugee problem, Denmark will be like Brazil years before the United States.

You don't get shot at school in Denmark or Brazil. You just get attacked walking down the street.
 
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LOL, with Scandinavia's rapefugee problem, Denmark will be like Brazil years before the United States. You don't get shot at school in Denmark or Brazil.

You just get attacked walking down the street.

A: Off topic as fuck
B: You know that Denmark is not taking many if any immigrants at all right? (of course you don't)
 
So then we change nothing and we just accept the deaths.

Again, you seem to be jumping to this "they're gonna take our guns!" idea, when that's not at all what anyone has mentioned. Having to take a class in order to be licenced to own a gun isn't unreasonable, and it could deter many people from wanting to bother, especially those who need a gun in a hurry in order to commit a crime. Also, maybe you can buy a gun from your neighbor, but of course you must register it right?
I think we're talking past each other. Registries would not work or if the "take all the guns" stance got the ok from every branch of government. There are plenty of guns in circulation that could be registered or "taken". And if you buy a gun from some rando, the people most likely to register it are those who have no ill intentions and criminals/potential criminals would always ignore it since it would just get them caught.

At this point I don't think legislation that deals directly with guns will have much of an effect due to what I said above and it would be much more effective if we took action on mental illness/over prescribing drugs that can have negative side effects that might make someone go on a mass killing spree/ tracking dangerous/potentially dangerous individuals and so on.
 
Whenever a gun debate comes up, I tend to look at it from a different angle.

From 2000-2018 school shooting casualties have almost eclipsed the total amount of school shooting casualties from the last 100 years 1900-1999.

Now automatic firearms weren't just invented in the year 2000. So whats the reason?

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Looks like they exploded after the Federal Assault Weapons ban expired in 2004.
 
Also can we please get this gun debate shit transplanted into a new/existing gun debate thread? No one can possible read any updates to this story with off topic text walls flying around that feel like an entirely different thread.
 
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I was already out of high school before Columbine.

The difference between now and then isn't music lyrics or gun access. We listened to garbage, and we probably had easier access to guns. We lived in more or less the same levels of family dysfunction, same drugs, same post-modern teenaged wasteland hellscape.

The difference is having access to the fucking internet.
 
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Yeah I don't even bother stating what I think because of reasons like these arguments that happen it is just not worth all the drama and I don't like arguments. I don't give a single flying hentai fuck if this is off topic, too bad.
 
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Whenever a gun debate comes up, I tend to look at it from a different angle.

From 2000-2018 school shooting casualties have almost eclipsed the total amount of school shooting casualties from the last 100 years 1900-1999.

Now automatic firearms weren't just invented in the year 2000. So whats the reason?

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i think it might be because more and more school shootings are getting coverage and getting politicized, then more and more crazy people realize that this exists and they can do it, thus leading them to simply do it

god, we really need better mental health services. they really need it
 
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