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Bridge to Nowhere said:
How many fundraising events has he had? You'd think his fans would think about where all those funds that he supposedly needs are actually going...
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They didn't think about that the years before and they won't in the coming years. DSP says he needs money, packs it into a lie or something not quite as obvious and his paypigs open their wallet for him.
 
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Hello, night owls. This thread is quite robust, isn't it? So many pages since I last logged in. I want to do a little date comparison based on comments Phil made during a GTA stream. Censure me appropriately if this is late:

1:04 - 1:32 we learn the soulmaid doesn't care about her online profiles being found. Or, she hasn't looked at it, because she has no idea. But she also doesn't care. Yeah... either way Phil wants negative idiots leaving comments and tweets to know it's a waste of time, because she won't see it. BUT BTW SHE KNOWS AND DOESN'T CARE.
5:07 - 5:57 "It's all over." Dr. Phil gives us the prognosis on Kat's internet presence. In my eyes he seems to be clearly lying here. Streaming was just an experiment, huh? Which is why she had a stream layout, bought a capture card, etc. And he admits he pretty much made their relationship conditional on her quitting everything.

I wonder how that conversation went down. More importantly, I wonder when that conversation went down.
We have their first public interaction... June 1st!
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https://twitter.com/TheyCallMeDSP/status/870445282760171520
https://tweetsave.com/theycallmedsp/status/870445282760171520

"She's never gonna use that Twitter account again." Last tweeted on June 4th.
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https://twitter.com/ChaosRealm01/status/871366763031801856
https://tweetsave.com/chaosrealm01/status/871366763031801856

"She hasn't used that YouTube account since June of last year." Final upload date? June 1st, 2017!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phfm9k6obeE
https://archive.is/iFRHm

Does anyone else remember when Phil finally broke his silence about the breakup with Leanna? Yeah... May 31st.
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sptqv6
https://archive.is/11PbQ

Something's not right.

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Do you guys think if it really came down to it, Phil would go on welfare? Let’s say his paypigs magically dry up (:optimistic:) and he’d have to make the decision between giving up streaming , biting the bullet and getting a job OR continue his x-year legacy and try to save face by supplementing his income with government checks. Which would it be? Would he be vocal about it? Could he even collect welfare at this point or just disability for “mah back dood”? How far would DSP go to keep the dream alive?
 
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PUBG Federal Tax Fundraiser!
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"Fundraising goal"
Alrighty guys! Its Business Finance Class 101! Today we are going to be learning about the financial side to the concept of "Fundraising" in the United States.

What is Fundraising?
Fundraising or fund raising (also known as "development") is the process of gathering voluntary contributions of money or other resources, by requesting donations from individuals, businesses, charitable foundations, or governmental agencies (see also crowd funding). Although fundraising typically refers to efforts to gather money for non-profit organizations, it is sometimes used to refer to the identification and solicitation of investors or other sources of capital for for-profit enterprises
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Hmm, so is it illegal to run a fundraiser as an individual instead of charity groups in the United States? Why YES IT IS

Most states regulate fundraising to protect the public, corporations and any potential donors from fraudulent solicitation. Many charitable organizations must register with the state, and individual fundraising professionals must hold a license before they may fundraise. Although the law differs from state to state, it is important to understand the requirements before you or your charity begin fundraising.

Registration of Charitable Organizations
In many states, charitable organizations must obtain a license before soliciting any donations. Charities can apply for a license by providing the state with details about the organization, such as its purpose, operating budget and the names of its directors and officers. Depending on the laws of the particular state, there may be exemptions for charities under a certain budget, churches, schools or other specific types of organizations. States generally impose a fee for registration.
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Do you need to pay federal taxes to the IRS specifically for fundraising? YES YOU DO

Organizations in the United States established for charitable purposes are allowed to raise funds from many sources. They are given a specific designation by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), commonly noted as 501(c)(3)organizations. Other nonprofits such as fraternal associations have different IRS designations, and may or may not be eligible to raise funds. Financial information on many nonprofits, including all nonprofits that file annual IRS 990 forms is available from GuideStar.
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Popquiz time! Can DSP run a fundraising event for himself in the State of Washington without getting approval of the State to begin with? NO HE FUCKING CANT

Fundraising Contract Requirements
Before fundraising activities commence in Washington State, a charitable organization that contracts with a commercial fundraiser for the purpose of soliciting or receiving contributions in this state must complete and submit a signed Fundraising Service Contract Registration Form, a copy of the written agreement and a $20 filing fee to the Charities Program.

Required Content for a Fundraising Contract

Disclosure Requirements
Commercial fundraisers that solicit contributions in Washington State on behalf of charitable organizations are required to disclose certain information at the point of solicitation. Read summaries of these disclosures.
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Question two. Does this mean DSP is in essence breaking the law in Washington by not going through the proper channels Locally and Federally and is an illegal Fundraiser Organization? YES HE IS
. How can I tell if it is legitimate?

Registration with the Secretary of State does not address an organization's "legitimacy." The Charities Program will be able to confirm if an organization has met the state registration requirements. If the organization has properly registered, the program will be able to supply general and financial information as provided in the organization's registration documents. The information available from our office, combined with other available resources, is intended to assist the public in making informed decisions, before making a contribution.

online search of registered charities and fundraisers. Other resources include your local Better Business Bureau, including several Internet sites that have been established to aid in your research of charitable organizations.

online search of the Charities Database. General and financial information is available and will assist potential donors in understanding how their contribution will be used, before committing to a donation.

The Charities Program also publishes the "Commercial Fundraiser Activity Report" each year near the holiday season, when charitable solicitations are at their peak. The report provides valuable information regarding how funds are distributed by commercial fundraisers to their charity clients. The report may be accessed here.


What percentage of funds actually spent on the organization’s charitable purpose is considered an “acceptable” percentage?

The Washington State Charitable Solicitations Act does not provide an "acceptable" or minimal percentage that must be used towards an organization's program service. Anyone involved in donating to charitable organizations should predetermine their own "minimum percentage standard."


Other Tips and Cautions

  • Before you decide to donate, request printed materials about the charity.
  • Contact the beneficiaries of the charitable funds to determine if they are aware of the solicitation and have authorized use of their name. Ask how the donations are used.
  • Never give your credit card number to a telephone solicitor and don't pay by cash. Pay by check and make it payable to the charity, not the fundraiser.
  • Don't be fooled by a name. Some organizations use sympathetic sounding names, or names that closely resemble those of respected, well-established charities.
  • Don't give in to high-pressure "hardball" solicitations that demand an instant commitment. If the charity is legitimate, it should be willing to give you time to make up your mind.
  • Be wary of charities that offer to send a courier to collect your money immediately.
  • If a solicitor comes to your door, ask for identification and written material regarding the organization.
  • Call the Charities Program, in Washington State, 1-800-332-GIVE to verify the charity or fundraiser is registered and get further information about the organization's financial and charitable activities.

Know the Law

Under the Charitable Solicitations Act, an individual soliciting a contribution MUST:

  • Clearly state his or her name
  • Clearly state the name of the charitable organization and its principal place of business
  • Clearly state the name of the commercial fundraiser, if any, that employs the solicitor
  • Disclose the true nature of the organization's relationship to the government, if it is associated with or has a name similar to a government organization
  • Upon request, provide the published telephone number of Office of the Secretary of State Charities Program (1-800-332-4483)
An individual soliciting a contribution MUST NOT:

  • Make a false, deceptive, or misleading statement
  • State or imply that the contribution is tax deductible unless the charity has filed with the Secretary of State its letter from the Internal Revenue Service granting tax deductible status or otherwise qualifies for such status with the IRS
  • Use the name "police", "sheriff", "firefighter" or similar name, unless authorized
  • Harass, intimidate, or torment
  • Claim that tickets to an event will be donated, unless the fundraiser has obtained a letter from those persons stating they will accept the tickets and the number they will accept
  • Call before 8:00 a.m. or after 9:00 p.m. (your time).
If the required disclosures above are not provided - ASK! Take the time to seek the information that is required, and any additional information that may be important to you, and/or will help in your decision making process. The organization has contacted you, asking you to donate your hard-earned money. You will learn a lot about the organization simply by how they respond to your questions. An organization should be more than willing to take the time to answer your questions. Take notes and follow up by utilizing the many resources available to verify the information they have provided.


To File A Complaint

If you feel a charity or commercial fundraiser is operating in a deceptive or illegal manner, contact the Consumer and Business Fair Practice Division of the State Attorney General's Office at 1-800-551-4636 (TDD: 1-800-276-9883). You may visit the Attorney General's website and file a formal complaint online
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And folks, to sum this all up. It is possible that TwitchTv is responsible to insure that there Partnered Streamer is doing all of this prior to setting up a "fundraiser" examples of this are AGDQ events.

If someone were to say, file a complaint with washington state and the IRS we could potentially see one of the biggest DSP meltdowns ever to exist. Not saying you should do this but it is possible too.

Sources
. https://www.sos.wa.gov/charities/commercial-fundraisers.aspx/ http://info.legalzoom.com/need-license-collect-charity-26069.html https://www.sos.wa.gov/charities/consumer_faq.aspx#8
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We're supposed to believe that Phil's soulmate is in house, but in the two weeks(now going on three weeks)she's been there, he has only three pictures of her. Two. If my girlfriend or overseas slide-off came to visit, best believe I'm taking pictures of us outdoors, lying around, being goofy--being happy. I know my tastes, and I can be petty as a mother. I would be posting pics of her wearing workout tights...chilling in tanktop...everything Instagram would allow under their TOS. Kat is there to see him too, am I right? But she can't take pictures of her man to show friends and family. I swear, Phil is lying about this relationship and his taxes(the latter can be proven a lie by asking him to provide proof he paid off his previous year's taxes. 2017 taxes aren't due until April 15 here in the US, and after that the IRS will contact you to set up a payment plan. This nigga Phil wants us to believe April 16 the government is going to take his 4k tv and PS4 Pro.
 
ThePlagueTND said:
It is quite fascinating he can say in the same prestream that he might not be able to keep his house and he will be doing a fundraiser, he also states his haters are jealous.
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The complete oblivious paradox that is Phil Burnell genuinely believes this. It's actually fascinating to behold him when he starts getting cocky but also tries to seem humble with the whole "I need your help guise" routine. I wonder if he sits down after a particularly contradictory stream and wonders if this time he went too far. Maybe this time the people who actually like him and donate might just notice his bullshit.

Never happens though so he's clearly doing something right.
 
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@Bryan Dunn, I went through a bunch of this back in December and concluded I couldn’t find anything that said he was in any violation. It seems to only apply to charities and corporations or individuals who fundraise professionally. I know there’s an argument to be had that Phallus is fundraising professionally, I don’t think this applies. Otherwise anyone in the state of Washington that starts a gofundme has to register with the state. This would be like requiring anyone who has a garage sell (or a lemonade stand) to get a business license.
 
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PieceofShet said:
He wants to replay Bully now. Imagine that scene WITH stream chat 100% handholding.
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He can hope his eurofag fanboys at least know where they live.

Otherwise Finland will be Greece again and vice versa, and the UK "must be somewhere on the map". He even used a real map to find the American states.
 
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@Bryan Dunn, I went through a bunch of this back in December and concluded I couldn’t find anything that said he was in any violation. It seems to only apply to charities and corporations or individuals who fundraise professionally. I know there’s an argument to be had that Phallus is fundraising professionally, I don’t think this applies. Otherwise anyone in the state of Washington that starts a gofundme has to register with the state. This would be like requiring anyone who has a garage sell (or a lemonade stand) to get a business license.
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Agreed, I think this whole thing is a semantics issue. If a "fundraiser" in this context were to actually get him in legal trouble, he could just be honest and call it what it is, hardcore begging.
 
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Phallus is fundraising professionally, I don’t think this applies
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He is, when you file a partnership contract with Twittch TV you become an Independent contractor or a "Business" of sorts. In further it is your responsibility as a Affiliated/Partnered streamer when running any charities, fundraisers, etc. to follow in accordance with State and Federal Laws. Twitchtv does not monitor this and cite that they are in accordance with tthe State of California's Laws under this. This is my Partnered Contract in it's entirety, unless you are affilated or partnered, you would never ever see this fyi.

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Prince_of_Rewards said:
We're supposed to believe that Phil's soulmate is in house, but in the two weeks(now going on three weeks)she's been there, he has only three pictures of her. Two. If my girlfriend or overseas slide-off came to visit, best believe I'm taking pictures of us outdoors, lying around, being goofy--being happy. I know my tastes, and I can be petty as a mother. I would be posting pics of her wearing workout tights...chilling in tanktop...everything Instagram would allow under their TOS. Kat is there to see him too, am I right? But she can't take pictures of her man to show friends and family. I swear, Phil is lying about this relationship and his taxes(the latter can be proven a lie by asking him to provide proof he paid off his previous year's taxes. 2017 taxes aren't due until April 15 here in the US, and after that the IRS will contact you to set up a payment plan. This nigga Phil wants us to believe April 16 the government is going to take his 4k tv and PS4 Pro.
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I seriously believe he told her to come live with him, saying you won't ever have to work, you can just sit around and play vidya games all day, every day, i'll just come up with a different scam every few months, and get my paypigs to pay for it all.
 
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