🐱 Nazis use memes to launder right wing ideology, and mainstream comedians are helping them do it - Many with right-wing ideology know how to use irony

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https://inews.co.uk/news/long-reads/online-right-launder-ideology/

A man posted a video on YouTube in which he repeatedly said “gas the Jews,” but claimed it was a joke, as he was only saying it to make a pug dog do a Nazi salute. This video inspired hundreds of people to bombard the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities with abusive comments, and left Jewish people in Scotland feeling threatened.

As a result, Mark Meechan, also known by his YouTube persona as Count Dankula, was convicted of hate crime charges in a Scottish court. The judge ruled the clip, which was watched online by 3 million people, was “anti-semitic and racist in nature”.

Comedians defended the joke
Many prominent comedians defended Meechan, though often uncomfortably. Tom Walker, in character as Jonathan Pie, made a video claiming the judge didn’t understand the joke and Meechan was actually mocking Nazis. His video received almost ten thousand retweets.

Stephen Fry, Romesh Ranganathan, and Shappi Khorsandi all gave varying degrees of support for free speech, and therefore Meechan’s freedom to make the joke. Other comedians, including Omid Djalili, Robert Webb and Dara O’Briain dissented to an extent.


Ricky Gervais and David Baddiel defended the joke, pointing to a short videothey made at an earlier point during the trial discussing it. They defended it on a few different points, but broadly made the case Meechan was mocking Nazis, and that people needed to be aware of the full context the joke rested on – that Meechan was trying to be offensive in order to make the joke work, and was open in the video about that.

The problem here is that while some comedians thought the judge’s ruling was missing context, the comedians are actually missing the real context, and as a result they’re also missing the joke.

The far-right use jokes in a new way
The context is the internet culture Meechan comes out of, and so who the audience for his “joke” becomes. At the time of publishing the video, he had a negligible following, as few as eight subscribers. But as evidenced by his videos, both before and after, he is steeped in the irony-filled, meme-heavy culture of the parts of the internet the alt-right grew out of.

He negatively talks about Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian and Brianna Wu, the primary targets of the toxic and misogynist internet movement known as Gamergate, which itself contributed to the development of the alt-right.


The comedians defending the “joke” don’t necessarily appreciate the actual joke isn’t making fun of Nazis. A lot of people, maybe even most of the people, who shared and watched the video likely found it funny because of the reasons Gervais and Baddiel stated.

But in the context of the internet, there are large groups that find the idea of hiding their truly held far-right ideas in plain sight funny – that’s the joke. They’re laughing at the people who think they understand it’s an ironic joke, when they’re unknowingly just spreading propaganda from the alt-right.

This has been explicitly stated by many on the far-right – last year, The Huffington Post published the style guide for the Daily Stormer, a neo-Nazi website. It said: “The unindoctrinated should not be able to tell if we are joking or not… I usually think of this as self-deprecating humour – I am a racist making fun of stereotypes of racists, because I don’t take myself super-seriously… This is obviously a ploy and I actually do want to gas [jews].”

Many with right-wing ideology know how to use irony
This version of the joke comes from the racists being self-aware – in large part because they are much younger and native to the internet. A similar thing has occurred with fake EDL accounts on Twitter. Teenagers, who are often right-wing themselves, run accounts with stolen avatars to make fun of stereotypes of EDL-style racists, smuggling themselves and their views into wider online culture by adopting a posture of mocking right-wing views, while often actually supporting them, at least in part.

Just last week an account known as Barry Stanton was removed from Twitter after reporting from the New Statesman as it used a profile picture stolen from a Labour councillor from the north of England, who later receivedlarge amounts of abuse as a result of his image being used without his knowledge.

The account, which made jokes in character as a stereotype of a fictional Brexiteer, was retweeted by liberals and the far-right alike. The liberals found it funny because it played into their stereotypes of Brexiteers, the right-wing found it funny because it was mocking those liberals for holding such absurd stereotypes of people with pro-Brexit, right-wing views.

By muddying the lines between jokes and serious beliefs, it can become hard to figure out what is genuine, what is trolling, and what falls somewhere in between.

Ironic ‘jokes’ can gain the support of people who sincerely believe what’s being said
Meechan has apologised for the video, and has said he does not hold Nazi views. His other videos, which repeat a lot of right wing talking points, including criticisms of both Islam and political correctness, are not explicitly Nazi, and he has also publicly disagreed with alt-right figures repeatedly. But during the original video, he did also say that he understood what he was doing was offensive.

When a video blows up online, which Meechan says he didn’t expect to happen to the extent that it did, it finds those people who see the underlying joke as well – not just the one that can be easily explained by conventional comedic structures.

What they therefore understand as hate speech inspires them to attack the Scottish Council of Jewish Communities. It might look like a joke, but to a significant group of people it is inspiring hate speech, with no material difference to a neo-Nazi preaching fascism at a rally.

Racism has found a fertile ground between old school Nazis and online trolls
David Baddiel, who has expressed discomfort with the closeness of Meechan to members of the far right, said after the trial on Twitter: “There are LOADS of fucking proper anti-Semites out there, seriously promoting Holocaust Denial and global conspiracy bollocks,” which is both true and incomplete. The overlap between the two is significant.

The Charlottesville rally in 2017, which resulted in a left-wing counter-protester being run over, is a demonstration of how the far-right and online alt-right intersect. Some of those protesters were the “proper anti-Semites” Baddiel is likely referring to – there were swastikas, Nordic symbols and Confederate flags.

But other protesters were there because of the internet, having been radicalised to go on a white supremacist rally through alt-right spaces online, many of which heavily use jokes and memes. They brought things such as Kekistan flags, a ‘joke’ created on the messageboards of 4Chan to mock the look and feel of a Nazi flag – just in green, not red. A distancing joke, essentially, so they can fly the Nazi flag while protecting themselves by claiming irony.

‘An odious criminal act … dressed up to look like a joke’

Meechan can claim he was making a joke, but those symbols associated with the far-right regularly appear in what he produces online – he appears with the Kekistan flag, and Pepes, the frog cartoon that became a symbol of the alt-right. A self-described “shitposter”, Meechan is very aware of what those symbols mean.

He is a participant in the internet culture around the alt-right, and to claim his video repeatedly stating “gas the Jews” is a joke and should be protected as such is to fundamentally misunderstand what jokes can mean in 2018. It should be treated as its audience treats it – a serious incitement to hatred.
 
You can mock nazis through irony, you can share memes, or you can disagree with Brianna Wu, but if you do more than one of these at a time you’re going to prison.
 
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So how does this translate into building the movement that finally will get into power and finally make the Holocaust happen for real this time?
Well you see what this genius has realised is that by mocking the left mocking the right mocking the left mocking the right mocking the left, the right can trick those poor saps on the left who are mocking the right mocking the left mocking the right mocking the left into actually mocking the left mocking the right mocking the left mocking the right mocking the left, and this is, in some fashion good.
 
Conditions of permissible joking
What are the conditions for joking to be permissible?

1 – It not should not involve any element of making fun of Islam.


That is one of the things that nullify a person’s Islam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“If you ask them (about this), they declare: ‘We were only talking idly and joking.’ Say: ‘Was it at Allaah, and His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?’

Make no excuse; you disbelieved after you had believed”

[al-Tawbah 9:65-66]

Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “Making fun of Allaah, His Signs and His Messenger is kufr (disbelief) and the one who does that disbelieves thereby after he had believed.”

The same applies to making fun of some Sunnahs, an action which is widespread, such as making fun of the beard and the hijaab, or of shortening one’s garment, etc.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen said in al-Majmoo’ al-Thameen, 1/63:
“The matters of Divine Lordship, Prophethood, Revelation and religion are sacred matters which are to be venerated. It is not permissible for anyone to show disrespect towards them, whether by mocking them to make others laugh or to poke fun at them. If anyone does that, he is a kaafir, because this is indicative of his disrespect towards Allaah and His Messengers, Books and Laws. Whoever does that has to repent to Allaah for what he has done, because that is a kind of hypocrisy. So he has to repent to Allaah, seek His forgiveness, mend his ways and develop fear of Allaah, veneration towards Him and love for Him in his heart. And Allaah is the Source of strength.

2 – The jokes should only be truthful.


The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Woe to the one who tells lies to make people laugh, woe to him.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood).

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, warning against this kind of behaviour which some jokers are accustomed to: “A man may say something to make his companions laugh, and he will fall into Hell as far as the Pleiades because of it.” (Narrated by Ahmad).

3 – Not scaring people


Especially those who are very energetic or strong, or who are holding a weapon or a piece of iron, or who take advantage of the darkness and people’s weakness to use that as a means of scaring and alarming them. It was narrated that Abu Layla said: “The companions of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that they were travelling with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and a man among them fell asleep. Some of them got a rope and tied him up, and he got scared. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘It is not permissible for a Muslim to frighten another Muslim.’” (Narrated by Abu Dawood).

4 – Mocking people by winking behind their backs or making snide remarks


People vary in their ability to understand things and in their characters. Some weak people, those who like to make fun of others and wink behind their backs or make snide remarks, may find a person to be an object of fun for them and the butt of their jokes – Allaah forbid. Allaah has forbidden such behaviour in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):

“O you who believe! Let not a group scoff at another group, it may be that the latter are better than the former. Nor let (some) women scoff at other women, it may be that the latter are better than the former. Nor defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. How bad is it to insult one’s brother after having Faith”

[al-Hujuraat 49:11]

Ibn Katheer said in his Tafseer: “What is meant here is looking down on them, belittling them or making fun of them. This is haraam and is counted as one of the characteristics of the hypocrites.”

Some people make fun of a person’s appearance, manner of walking or vehicle. But there is the fear that Allaah may requite the one who makes fun of others because of that. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Do not express malicious joy towards your brother’s misfortune, for Allaah may have mercy on him and you may be stricken by the thing you made fun of.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi).

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against mocking people and hurting their feelings, because that is the path that leads to hatred and grudges. He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Muslim is the brother of another Muslim, he does not wrong him, let him down or look down upon him. Taqwa (piety, awareness and fear of Allaah) is here” – and he pointed to his chest three times – “It is sufficient evil for a man to look down upon his Muslim brother. Every Muslim is sacred to another Muslim, his blood, his property and his honour.” (Narrated by Muslim)

5 – The jokes should not be excessive.


Some people joke too much and it becomes a habit for them. This is the opposite of the serious nature which is the characteristic of the believers. Joking is a break, a rest from ongoing seriousness and striving; it is a little relaxation for the soul. ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “Fear joking, for it is folly and generates grudges.”

Imaam al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: “The kind of joking which is forbidden is that which is excessive and persistent, for it leads to too much laughter and hardening of the heart, it distracts from remembrance of Allaah, and it often leads to hurt feelings, generates hatred and causes people to lose respect and dignity. But whoever is safe from such dangers, then that which the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to do is permissible for him.”

6 – Acknowledging people’s status


Some people may joke with everyone indiscriminately, but scholars and the elderly have rights, so you have to be aware of the character of the person with whom you are dealing. You should not joke with ignorant people, fools or people whom you do not know.

With regard to this matter, ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez said: “Fear joking, for it undermines chivalry and manliness.”

Sa’d ibn Abi Waqqaas said: “Set a limit to your jokes, for going to extremes makes you lose respect and incites the foolish against you.”

7 – The amount of joking should be like the amount of salt in one’s food.


The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not laugh too much, for laughing too much deadens the heart.” (Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7312)

‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Whoever laughs too much or jokes too much loses respect, and whoever persists in doing something will be known for it.”

So beware of joking, for it “causes a person to lose face after he was thought of as respectable, and it brings him humiliation after esteem.”

8 – It should not involve backbiting.


This is a foul sickness. Some people think that they can talk about others, and say that this is by way of joking, but it is included in the hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “[Backbiting is] your mentioning about your brother something that he dislikes.” (Narrated by Muslim)

9 – Choosing appropriate times for joking.


Such as when you are taking a trip in the countryside, or attending a party in the evening, or when meeting a friend, you may relax and enjoy some gentle anecdotes, nice stories or light jokes, in order to generate friendship and instill happiness in the heart; or when family problems are taking their toll and one of the spouses is angry, some gentle joking may relieve the tension and cheer people up.

A man said to Sufyaan ibn ‘Uyaynah (may Allaah be pleased with him), “Joking is not right, it is to be denounced.” He replied, “Rather it is Sunnah, but only for those who know how to do it and do it at the appropriate time.”

Nowadays, although the ummah needs to increase the love between its individual members and to relieve itself of boredom, it has gone too far with regard to relaxation, laughter and jokes. This has become a habit which fills their gatherings and wastes their time, so their lives are wasted and their newspapers are filled with jokes and trivia.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If you knew what I know, you would laugh little and weep much.” In Fath al-Baari it says: “What is meant by knowledge here has to do with the might of Allaah and His vengeance upon those who disobey Him, and the terrors that occur at death, in the grave and on the Day of Resurrection).

Muslim men and women have to be inclined to choose righteous and serious friends in their lives, who will help them to make good use of their time and strive for the sake of Allaah with seriousness and steadfastness, good and righteous people whose example they can follow. Bilaal ibn Sa’d said: “I saw them [the Sahaabah] jokingly pretending to fight over some goods, and laughing with one another, but when night came they were like monks.”

Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) was asked, “Did the Companions of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) laugh?” He said, “Yes, and the faith in their hearts was like mountains.”

So you have to follow the example of such people, who were knights by day and monks (i.e., devoted worshippers) by night.

May Allaah keep us, you and our parents safe on the Day of the Greatest Terror, those to whom the call will go out on that great Day:

“Enter Paradise, no fear shall be on you, nor shall you grieve”

[al-A’raaf 7:49 – interpretation of the meaning]

May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and all his family and companions.
 
Humor is one of the best tools to discredit hateful ideologies because it gets people to stop taking them seriously. Mel Brooks, a Jew who was in the military during WWII, made mocking Hitler and Nazis a big part of his career because he wanted to diminish the posthumous power and fear they still had over people (although he does admit comedy has limits).

Just a few years ago, neo-Nazis and white supremacists were mocked and not given much attention. Ever since Trump’s campaign and election, the narrative is being pushed that this very small, rather weak group of people is the greatest threat facing America and we should be terrified of them. One of these approaches has been vastly more successful than the other when it comes to actually diminishing the impact of the alt-right/neo-Nazis/etc.
 
Humor is one of the best tools to discredit hateful ideologies because it gets people to stop taking them seriously. Mel Brooks, a Jew who was in the military during WWII, made mocking Hitler and Nazis a big part of his career because he wanted to diminish the posthumous power and fear they still had over people (although he does admit comedy has limits).

The Nazis themselves knew this, hence why a businessman in German-allied Finland, Tor Borg, was threatened with reprisals from German companies (which would have bankrupted him) and other Nazi-linked groups because his dog would do Nazi salutes when it heard the word "Hitler". The Nazis thought this was offensive since it made their ideology into a joke.

The same can't be said for people in Nazi Germany who made puns and jokes about "Heil Hitler".
 
The Nazis themselves knew this, hence why a businessman in German-allied Finland, Tor Borg, was threatened with reprisals from German companies (which would have bankrupted him) and other Nazi-linked groups because his dog would do Nazi salutes when it heard the word "Hitler". The Nazis thought this was offensive since it made their ideology into a joke.

The same can't be said for people in Nazi Germany who made puns and jokes about "Heil Hitler".
Two dogs do Nazi salutes, two oppressive governments try to punish the action in an attempt to silence. Very telling.
 
Humor is one of the best tools to discredit hateful ideologies because it gets people to stop taking them seriously. Mel Brooks, a Jew who was in the military during WWII, made mocking Hitler and Nazis a big part of his career because he wanted to diminish the posthumous power and fear they still had over people (although he does admit comedy has limits).

Just a few years ago, neo-Nazis and white supremacists were mocked and not given much attention. Ever since Trump’s campaign and election, the narrative is being pushed that this very small, rather weak group of people is the greatest threat facing America and we should be terrified of them. One of these approaches has been vastly more successful than the other when it comes to actually diminishing the impact of the alt-right/neo-Nazis/etc.
It also doesn't help that in recent years even before Trump the self-proclaimed progressive liberals essentially crippled their own ability to use comedy what with concepts like "only punch up" and "portraying a Bad Thing even as satire is endorsement" so restrictively that even rather milquetoast comedians like Seinfeld were noticing that a benign statement could potentially spark outrage from a thin-skinned Gender Studies major. So of course when the only acceptabl forms of humor you allow are making party approved jokes about Trump, or about how terrible and dumb straight white guys are, or how even in comedy writing you have to run every diverse character through a sensitivity screening to make sure some innocuous flaws you have them won't be deemed offensive, then of course the other side of the comedy fence is going to look a helluva lot more appealing to people who just want to make stupid jokes and share memes.

The fact that instead of taking this pushback against arresting a guy for a pig video as "we just need to crack down on comedy harder" really shows how out of touch these chucklefucks are.
 
It seems like there's a tremendous amount of SJW types who believe that portrayal of an idea is endorsement of that idea, and that's unspeakably autistic. You'd have to throw all fiction in the trash, even their beloved Harry Potter.

It goes even further than that. These ideas are also considered seductive, in the same way that drugs and guns are. If they are present anywhere in the community, people will pick them up and use them.
 
with concepts like "only punch up"

That one always annoys me. Amy Schumer got 13 million dollars for a Netflix special, how can she not punch down from there when whining about men while dressed like a blood sausage? Dave Chapelle got 20 million, what is his comedy stylings supposed to be? Can't be black culture, dey poor.

The left seriously handicapped themselves with the idea that they can only swim upstream, or the ones firmly holding to the new leftist ideals handicapped themselves - everyone else is alt right of course.
 
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