That Deejay brag really picked me up with a lel this morning. It's great on so many levels. I love the psychology behind it - he obviously thinks he's being humble. I ONLY said I was top TWO, dood!
It's also funny because it again shows up Dave's most worthless lie - that he doesn't watch or care about the FGC anymore. How does he know about this Japanese Deejay player who's so great? If he really doesn't watch the FGC and it's a player from 10 years ago, why is he referencing him now?
It's like an also-ran boxer who's been retired for 10 years who still thinks he can get a title fight. He's so out of touch it's unreal. He just cannot and will not accept he's not what he used to be, and even then what he used to be wasn't that great. Yeah, this port is a little faster. But Dave is a lot slower.
Thanks @actually@SoapQueen1 and @EddyB43 you are absolute treasures, I am going to use these figures in my latest podcast in an attempt to shed some light. It is utterly disgusting how this fucker gets 8k plus a month and cries bankruptcy utterly fucking disgusting actually makes me somewhat sick and I can understand why Snort and Tevin even Fred utterly dispise him.
He does no effort and no benefit to society whilst Doctors, nurses and teaches and serviceman work their ass off to find their place in the world and this lazy fuck face complains about living etc. I am not even jealous just utterly disgusted apologies for the autism I had that one moment when I realise why people hate him so much.
Eh, I still don't think Phil is worth hating, and I'd recommend taking a step away from him if you're legitimately getting pissed off. Phil certainly doesn't deserve the money he is making from his ebegging. However, look at the life he leads. It's not like he enjoys himself with that money. He wastes it on tons of stupid stuff he thinks makes him important, but honestly means nothing. He leases an expensive car he barely drives, pays for an expensive internet which isn't even faster than an average connection and he bleeds money on a condo he hasn't been to in years. He spends most of his day "interacting" with an audience he hates, playing games which make him miserable. He's an incredibly prideful and arrogant person, but most of his day is spent broadcasting how awful he is at even the simplest things. He has absolutely no future security whatsoever. Eventually, his well will dry up and all he'll have to show for it is an empty resume.
He doesn't even have friends or family to fall back on. Him and Kat barely seem to interact with one another and I can't imagine their relationship is going to improve with time. Phil is stuck in a purgatory where the only enjoyment he gets in life is binge drinking cheap gin while watching wrestling and Netflix. If you could get 10k a month but had to live like Phil, would you honestly want that? Sometimes just reading this thread is enough to get exhausted by Phil, imagine how miserable it would be to actually be him. You might have to do actual work for your money, but at least you have friends and hobbies outside of a bottle of gin.
*Quick edit* I also want to add, if you're trying to shine a light on Phil, don't. Honestly, making a podcast or video or whatever talking about Phil just adds to his success. Nobody can damage Phil like Phil himself. Just look at BSV. He was on here for months reading all this evidence and going back and forth across multiple threads. It was Phil throwing him under the bus that finally made him see the light. I think the majority of people who support Phil don't actually find him entertaining. They like Phil because they want to support an underdog and stick it to those damn dirty detractors. They think "liking" someone who everyone else looks down upon somehow makes them special or whatever. It's one thing if you make a "this is how you don't play" or something along those lines, because that's just mocking him or whatever. But, if you try and do something more legitimate/serious, Phil will just use that as evidence about how detractors are out to get him and making up lies and bla bla bla, then his paypigs will throw even more donations at him to spite the detractors.
Besides, Phil is a pretty well-known figure at this point. It's not like he's drawing in tons of new viewers who have no idea who he is. Hell, it seems like he's actually bleeding those loyal viewers if anything. Again, nobody is as good at trolling Phil as Phil himself. That's part of what makes him such a top tier cow. He is his own worst enemy, and if anyone is going to push away his fans, it will be Phil himself.
That Deejay statement made me laugh so hard.
Him being the 2nd best Deejay-player in the world? How delusional can he get?
He wasn't even the best Deejay 10 years ago (that would probably be Afrolegends), and nowadays all he does is play online mode.
Hell, his last casual offline match happened 6-7 years ago, so I'm pretty sure he would get his ass kicked in a competitive environment.
World's second best Deejay, lol. Not even Seattle's second best, I bet.
Eh, I guess "tournament standard" is speed 1 and this is speed 2, but like... get over it. You're not at a tournament, you're an Online Warrior now DSP. What does and doesn't work offline doesn't matter anymore because you haven't played a fighting game offline in almost a decade. When was the last time, his condo farewell party I believe? That was casual af and 5 years ago!
I don't personally believe in paying 50 bucks for this mess anyways. Most of the games are irrevilant. No cares about SF1 and most of the versions of SF2 have aged terribly. You can get the alpha anthology for ps2 off of amazon for $20 new still(includes A2 Gold, A3 upper and pocket fighter). The online edition of 3rd strike has all sorts of modes and options.
While your points are valid, personally I want the games legitimately on PC so in a few years when the games are even more irrelevant I can still plug in any stick I have, no matter how old into my current computer and play a few sets. I don't have to worry about plugging in my 2002 PS2 into my TVs component input (if it still supports it), find or buy a $50 adapter for my stick, and hope the laser hasn't burnt out yet.
Sure I could use fightcade, but I'd rather avoid piracy/grey area/people using macros if I can.
It's depressing to see Phil still making that amount of money. Here I am busting my ass off to make 10K a month while he makes barely less than that with minimal effort. How he still claims to have money issues is beyond me.
Then he goes on to say how he has hardly any money anymore because its still lower than his upper middle class lifestyle he had. Now he's just middle class. Now he's in a DIRE situation because he can't spend his money on crap he can only afford his massively overpriced, oversized house and a condo on the side, he can't go to fancy restaurants weekly only monthly, and he can only buy a 4k TV and not a 4k TV AND a PS4 Pro with it! DAMN, what a shitty life he has!
Got to agree on Dave not worth hating, at least not because he makes cash. Hes the living proof that money cant buy happiness, in fact it along with his greed and ego have essentially destroyed his life. Hes a legit hermit, like I'm antisocial and don't go out much, but I still maintain a group of friends and family. Dave is just nothing, hes a husk of a whats left of a person, what you see is what you get, just a shell of a man sitting on the same couch almost daily saying whatever he can to save face for the mental people that throw quarters at him. Even dancing monkeys have more life and personality.
That Deejay statement made me laugh so hard.
Him being the 2nd best Deejay-player in the world? How delusional can he get?
He wasn't even the best Deejay 10 years ago (that would probably be Afrolegends), and nowadays all he does is play online mode.
Hell, his last casual offline match happened 6-7 years ago, so I'm pretty sure he would get his ass kicked in a competitive environment.
World's second best Deejay, lol. Not even Seattle's second best, I bet.
It's depressing to see Phil still making that amount of money. Here I am busting my ass off to make 10K a month while he makes barely less than that with minimal effort. How he still claims to have money issues is beyond me. Talk about spending money irresponsibly. Any person in his situation with half a brain should realize that he should get rid of his condo because it's bleeding him money and he can't afford paying for both a house and a condo that's just wasting away. But instead he prefers to beg for money from kids who need the money more than he does.
This is why people hate him. People will say it's jealousy, it's really not; to a degree money cant buy happiness--I mean look at this guy making 6 figures playing video games(if you can even call it that) and he's still bitching.
What really pisses me off about him is how genuinely ungrateful and unapologetic he is about it all. He had a charity fundraiser for himself, and then two months later was bitching about how successful it was and how he needs to pay taxes on his extra 5 grand or whatever; the motherfucker was genuinely bitching, he never said thanks, he never appreciated it, he didnt take the bad with the good. He'll never have any perspective, he'll kowtow and clown around on screen about how thankful he is but he's so fucking transparent about it being an act and it's like, bitch, you make 6 figures, be a fucking human for once and humble yourself. He's probably more genuine when he tells the fucking cashier at Wal Mart, "Thanks, you too," About having a nice day. Actually I doubt he even does that.
I think he genuinely believes he's broke and that he lives a poor life. I don't think its possible now with how much debt he owes, because he takes out credit cards for everything, he once took out a credit card and put himself in more debt to get expensive headphones, but at one point he could have prevented his situation just by saving up and not spending. He makes plenty of money to live even the life he wants to live, but he seems like a spending addict, he wants expensive stuff and he wants it instantly. He wants to shop at lavish super markets, he doesn't want $50 headphones that fans recommend to him are actually really good, he wants $300 headphones that are probably of the same quality because as we all know because he shows it a lot, he thinks that the more expensive something is, the better it is guaranteed. The $200 item WILL be better than the $100 one even if the $100 one has a bunch of 5 star reviews and the $200 one has a bunch of 3 star reviews. Its just his thinking.
It's depressing to see Phil still making that amount of money. Here I am busting my ass off to make 10K a month while he makes barely less than that with minimal effort. How he still claims to have money issues is beyond me.
Try not to look at it in terms of the money he earns, but in what he has to show for his time. Making money like that for ten years, Phil should have been able to save for retirement easily, but he hasn't. He should have been able to go on vacations, meet new people, have new experiences, be the Best Man at his best friend's wedding, been a fixture at family gatherings, but he hasn't.
He hasn't got shit to show for the last ten years of his life. If you need something to make you feel better about yourself than Phil, just think about how any future job search isn't going to be ruined when your employer googles you or sees the decade-long gap in your employment history. You've worked hard and your life presumably hasn't been a waste, so don't give a shitstain like Phil the satisfaction of thinking for one second that he's beaten the system. He's exploited a flaw in the system and will suffer for it for the rest of his miserable life.
I do agree that you should pity Phil more than hate him, I am more angry at his obvious cons than anything, So last yearhe gt about 100k, now I am a UK fag not US fag but Ai assume FICA is annual not monthly for self employed. So he owes about 7.65% to FICA meaning that is 7.6k, he said he owed 4k but we know not much of his is write offs and they could be investigating him in the future similar to Onision because he was getting all kinds of crap written off until they realised hry wait a minute.
Now if his backpayments were of that degree he would be nearing a silly amount owing to like 40k which does make sense of why he would have to sell his house but if he owed further which he does on credit etc he is financially fucked like nearly ruined
Disagreed. The merchant with his snake oil is always to blame for screwing over his customers. And in this case the same merchant created a cult, filled with people who don't know better. They are indeed exceptional if they know pretty well he lies to their faces and accept this circumstance, which is hopefully not the case. Sounds like Stockholm syndrome - or they are just way too young or immature to understand the situation.
Agreed. His life is miserable and the only sad constant he can cling to is his ass on a couch and destroying his former hobby (videogames) by turning it to a painful job and losing everything else in the process, thanks to his glorious personality.
I am not angry of the way he makes money. YT- and Twitch revenues are legit these days, and donations are also fine cuz people can do with their money what they want (even so Phil gets a "little" greedy which is obvious during his prestreams. The money is his and he wants the money).
I am also not angry he makes this much money, his life has no impact on mine and we are not in a race. Life in itself isn't fair play at all and there is no way to change that fact. I'm very happy with what I have, that's enough for me to know.
Phil has the luck of being a big negative phenomenon people talk about. If this wasn't the case his ass would be on pack ice years ago, cuz nobody would care what this underwhelming boring guy does. Sure, Phil thinks he got popular because he was super funny in his golden days and he was super entertaining and did amazing playthroughs and his concept was a revolution of the internet. The truth of his "success" is rather the same as today, and this is nothing to be proud of.
[:powerlevel:] My anger with Phil comes basically from his social behaviour towards other people. This gets me every time, I can't stand it; it's part of my own personality. I don't advertise for being friendly like a fairy, I'm a sarcastic type of person myself, but at the same time I have nice friendly respectful talks with people. There is always the possibility to missundertand the position / sentence of others, this is a daily struggle everyone has, so mostly I give a lot of benefits when I speak to people. I have also no problem making fun of myself or laugh with others when they make fun of me; this can soften a conversation very nicely. This basically results in a happier daily life, I'm a sunshine boy.
So someone needs to be a real jerk before I get angry. And DSP fulfills this role pretty nice cuz he is one of the most socially awkward, angry, hateful, egoistical pieces of shit I've ever seen on the internet (Yandev is also very fucked up). And of course I know a thing or two about creating playthroughs and editing videos, so this also makes me a little bit angry, especially his incapability of being entertaining at all. So the combination of being a lazy, boring pig and being smug about it is what gets me.
[/:powerlevel:]
Phil can make thousands of dollars with many of his wrongdoings, I really don't care. Being bad at videogames and being angry at them is perfectly fine, this can even be an entertaining shtick. Damn, he could dress like a blue furry-hedgehog and use girly sparkle effects on his streams, I really don't care. But damn, be at least entertaining to watch, charge yourself up with positive energy and don't be a jerk to the only people on the planet who support your ass!
Monthly rant over.
[edit] okay I basically said he doesn't earn his money with his "method". So maybe I'm a little bit upset over how he's making cash with vomit. But this is not my main reason and was clarified.
He hasn't got shit to show for the last ten years of his life. If you need something to make you feel better about yourself than Phil, just think about how any future job search isn't going to be ruined when your employer googles you or sees the decade-long gap in your employment history. You've worked hard and your life presumably hasn't been a waste, so don't give a shitstain like Phil the satisfaction of thinking for one second that he's beaten the system. He's exploited a flaw in the system and will suffer for it for the rest of his miserable life.
honestly, if you wrote a eulogy for phil what would be worth putting on it?
got 4th place once?
begged for money from children?
masturbated in front of people?
butthurt over not getting a wolverine toy as a kid well into his 30s?
ran away from an 11 year old?
drinks himself to sleep every night?
fucked over his only friends?
caused a buisness to go under and didn't care?
You've worked hard and your life presumably hasn't been a waste, so don't give a shitstain like Phil the satisfaction of thinking for one second that he's beaten the system. He's exploited a flaw in the system and will suffer for it for the rest of his miserable life.
just remember phil is a guy who took something he loved (vidya) and turned it into something he loathes doing just so he can feel an endorphin rush for a second or two when someone gives him a dollar, and spends his nights blankly watching TV while drowning in booze
in the end all he has are expensive things, and the worries of buying more of these expensive things
and occasionally some woman named kat who makes him food he scarfs down in a minute. but that's it
No, he's making up to about $9k unless he has a CPM of higher than $2 per 1000 views (on average, to account for adblock, content ID'd stuff, and so on). And keep in mind that's before fees he has to pay to get the money out as fast as he wants (in the case of tips, for instance) and taxes he should be setting aside.
Just wanted to say that this post is well-written and something I have to remind myself of on occasion. I know I'm the person doing an income breakdown, but that's mostly so I can be more sure that correct information is presented. When I find myself getting overly butt-mad about how much Phil makes, I do step away and remind myself that it ultimately doesn't matter and that, as others have pointed out, I wouldn't want his current life.
Patreon currently sits at $668, but @SoapQueen1 had the actual amount (from people one-time pledging or raising pledges briefly) at ~$700. This is BEFORE any declined pledges.
I was going to correct you and say he bought one with a loan, but I realized it's completely possible he's leasing the new one too. Lol insanity if he is.
Try not to look at it in terms of the money he earns, but in what he has to show for his time. Making money like that for ten years, Phil should have been able to save for retirement easily, but he hasn't. He should have been able to go on vacations, meet new people, have new experiences, be the Best Man at his best friend's wedding, been a fixture at family gatherings, but he hasn't.
No amount of money will ever make up for the fact Phil hates his life, and is trapped doing things he hates because of his own shitty attitude and bad behavior. Personally, that makes all my anger turn to lulz whenever I remember he exists in a perpetual state of assmad.
I do agree that you should pity Phil more than hate him, I am more angry at his obvious cons than anything, So last yearhe gt about 100k, now I am a UK fag not US fag but Ai assume FICA is annual not monthly for self employed. So he owes about 7.65% to FICA meaning that is 7.6k, he said he owed 4k but we know not much of his is write offs and they could be investigating him in the future similar to Onision because he was getting all kinds of crap written off until they realised hry wait a minute.
Now if his backpayments were of that degree he would be nearing a silly amount owing to like 40k which does make sense of why he would have to sell his house but if he owed further which he does on credit etc he is financially fucked like nearly ruined
You should never pity someone. Pity preserves their ineptitude and encourages it to go on. He should be mocked but insulting him through his streams or trying to fuck with him will just embolden his sycophants to spite us. It's better to just laugh and be amused from the sidelines.
Just on the topic of Phil doing a ''History of Street Fighter" event thing.
His current plan is to play the games in a row over multiple sessions. Instead of playing online he'll be playing Normal bots. I'm not sure how the games are set up but presumably he'll either be playing through with one character each or multiple times to show multiple characters. The focus will be teaching his viewers the way the game has evolved over it's editions with special attention paid to mechanics.
This is in ADDITION to the Hard Mode playthrough he's doing as a sub reward. This means Phil is planning on playing through the entirely of SF bot matches twice at the minimum.
He will only play LTG if the lobbies are 'fixed'.
He currently has no plans to play any of the SF Collection online against randoms or on the ladder going forward. Instead non-singleplayer SF segments will be filled by the Crew 2 beta and H1Z1.
