Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Basically to make the sequal story arc work it has to be a massive galaxy defining conflict that is dependant upon the force in some way, that most importantly has thematic links to concepts introduced in the original/prequels. However it cant simply be a "the mean ole empire is back with Palpatine 2: electric boogaloo!" since that would make the OT absolutely fucking pointless in the grand scheme of things (as the original EU kindly demonstrated like 10 fucking times in a row). Pretty much all ideas I have come up with/seen others come up with tend to be variations of the following four scenarios

- Jedi and the light side go bad: After decades of peace they wind up becoming corrupt/fanatical without the dark side to counterbalance it, causing them to overthrow the new republic and become full on quasi-religious dictators, leading to the sith being reformed as a resistance (an ACTUAL resistance, not the shit in the movies) against them. The thematic link would be the fact that Palpatine was (unknowingly) right all along in an irony to end all ironies

- Anti force conspiracy (ala KOTOR 2): the main villain, tired of how the sentient force dicks around with everyone and causes mass suffering for its unknowable goals (that inevitably get undone and restarts the cycle) decides to declare all out war against the force in order to break its hold over the galaxy and prevent more bad shit happening becuase of sith malevolence/jedi overzealousness. The thematic link is the fact that after the jedi help cause the empire, and the sith ruled the empire, surely some people in-universe must be questioning whether the whole force thing is a good idea

- Extra-galactic threat (like a non terrible vong): basically something invades the galaxy from outside that is utterly alien to the setting and the force as the characters know it, which causes absolute panic before the various factions unite against it. Also a chance to introduce other sci fi elements to the canon (i.e. lovecraft and shit). The thematic link would be the reminder of the fact that this is a sci-fi setting, and thus even those within it are unaware of the various mindbreaking and utterly alien shit that exists outside the borders of their galaxy

- Jedi/force/sith/whatever becoming obsolete: in the face of massively improved tech, force users are no longer special or important since any schmuck with power armour can take them down with ease, leading to jedi and sith order disbanding and scattering to die off quietly until the force itself begins to empower the survivors to even more ludicrous levels in order to combat some threat to all life which allows them to regain their place in the galaxy (think Jedi on the level of big hitter superheroes fighting legions of 40k level badass supersoldiers). I mentioned the thematic link before but basically what that bad hairdo guy on the first deathstar said about how the force was nothing compared to the might of their new technology, but actually correct this time.

Since the "dark side force is bad" arc has been taken in OT/Prequels, a "light side force is bad/anti force is bad/unconnected to force is bad/more powerful than force is bad" arc would actually take shit in a new direction.

Eh, i still like the idea of a galaxy wide collapse and the new generation having to rebuild everything. (But then i liked Roddenberry's Andromada.)

The legacy of the old could be respected (as such a task would be too much for one lifetime) while the new generation starts on their own efforts. You'd even have an excuse to slowly move away from the old as new eras are established.

Or just adapt SW Legacy.

Hello, Rom Mohc. Nice to see you here. Still pushing your Darktroopers as the future of the Empire?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rom_Mohc
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Phase_III_dark_trooper

Ah Mohc. Now THERE was a man who appreciated a good robot.
 
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The vaguely non cancerous parts of the EU already had a variety of anti-force shit which could be easily incorporated into the movies to fuck with mind/lightning/push powers, not to mention lightsaber resistant shit which would essentially turn the jedi into complete non entities on the galactic stage since any random guy with the right tech could easily fuck them up.
Like why is this even necessary? Regular old stormtroopers killed all of them. They already were complete non entities on the galactic stage, remember A New Hope? Han didn't even believe they existed.

The best thing Disney did was flush the EU completely.
 
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He should be everything a neckbeard likes: pasty, British, and in a badass longcoat, but from what I can tell he's regarded nearly as poorly as Rose or Holdo.
People complained that he can't be taken serious, that he's a whimp and not very threatening.
Of course, that means SJWs like Dobson accused said people of being Nazis in disguise since they are annoyed that the Space Nazis (that they are accused of identifying with) in TLJ aren't "cool enough".

Yeah geez. Why would I ever prefer the antagonists in my movie not to be laughingstock and easily defeated pushovers? Surely, I must be a Nazi :story:
 
People complained that he can't be taken serious, that he's a whimp and not very threatening.
Of course, that means SJWs like Dobson accused said people of being Nazis in disguise since they are annoyed that the Space Nazis (that they are accused of identifying with) in TLJ aren't "cool enough".

Yeah geez. Why would I ever prefer the antagonists in my movie not to be laughingstock and easily defeated pushovers? Surely, I must be a Nazi :story:

That's my problem with Krennic in R1 - not an outright joke but the start of one.

Really the biggest problem with rogue one is that the empire and rebels spent more time fighting themselves than each other.
 
That's my problem with Krennic in R1 - not an outright joke but the start of one.

Really the biggest problem with rogue one is that the empire and rebels spent more time fighting themselves than each other.

Rogue One felt to me like about 40 minutes had been cut from it. There was just no character development at all, and some characters -- the blind Force monk comes to mind -- felt like they were there just for the coolness factor, and had no personality or plot significance to justify their presence. The best thing I could say about it was it didn't give me cancer, while The Last Jedi caused multiple organ failure.

(Yeah, yeah -- meatbag problems.)
 
Rogue One felt to me like about 40 minutes had been cut from it. There was just no character development at all, and some characters -- the blind Force monk comes to mind -- felt like they were there just for the coolness factor, and had no personality or plot significance to justify their presence. The best thing I could say about it was it didn't give me cancer, while The Last Jedi caused multiple organ failure.

(Yeah, yeah -- meatbag problems.)

The characters from Rogue One exisit for multicultural points, Disney wanted garbage and retarded accents throughout the movie because this is progressive, I guess? And as I said earlier in this thread, this makes no fucking sense. In Star Wars everybody speaks and understands literally billions of languages, just put Donnie Yen speaking chinese in the damn movie then.

Americans are illiterates though so they would be mad because of subtitles.
 
Rogue One felt to me like about 40 minutes had been cut from it. There was just no character development at all, and some characters -- the blind Force monk comes to mind -- felt like they were there just for the coolness factor, and had no personality or plot significance to justify their presence. The best thing I could say about it was it didn't give me cancer, while The Last Jedi caused multiple organ failure.

(Yeah, yeah -- meatbag problems.)
No no i feel ya. I'm a robot and i still got cancer from last jedi.
 
There was just no character development at all, and some characters -- the blind Force monk comes to mind -- felt like they were there just for the coolness factor, and had no personality or plot significance to justify their presence.
That character existed entirely to pander to the Chinese foreign market; it's no wonder they didn't give him a lot of characterization because Chinese audiences don't care about that kind of thing.
 
Hello, Rom Mohc. Nice to see you here. Still pushing your Darktroopers as the future of the Empire?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rom_Mohc
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Phase_III_dark_trooper
Lol I actually forgot about the dark trooper shit, was thinking more along the lines of 40k spess mehreens.

And honestly can ya say he was wrong? Frankly the fact that the Jedi in the KOTOR era were being equalled and outmatched by tech and soldiers at the time makes one wonder why the hell technology and science were so damn stagnant for the next 3000 years to the point where still nobody has figured out yet that "mass produce anti jedi supersoldiers using existing tech and materials" is a far more effective anti-jedi strategy than palpatine's convoluted order 66 fuckery.

Hell come to think of it, if the rebels could afford bigass ships and x-wings by the thousand, couldnt they have scraped together enough space-shekels to build an anti-vader hit squad?

That character existed entirely to pander to the Chinese foreign market; it's no wonder they didn't give him a lot of characterization because Chinese audiences don't care about that kind of thing.

Heheheh so was Rose. And guess how well their whole continent being represented by an ugly and frumpy midget with a special-ed hairdo went down?
 
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David "Gr8 B8 M8" Ehrlich said:
“The Last Jedi”
With every new phase of the pathetic nerd outcry that’s hounded the best (and most inclusive) “Star Wars” movie ever made, it becomes increasingly clear that the response to “The Last Jedi” is a beautiful glimpse at how the MAGA types would have reacted if Hillary Clinton had won the election. “Star Wars” was their franchise, and Rian Johnson took it from them. He pulled out the past from under their feet — he killed it because he had to — and he did so in order to recenter the galaxy on the heroes who have its best interests at heart. Needless to say, that wasn’t appreciated by some of the people who’ve always felt entitled to their central role in this saga, and to the power that comes with it. Shrug emoji.

Of course, “The Last Jedi” didn’t just piss off the right people, it also tapped into the desperation of being wronged, and the sacrifices required to restore the balance between them. No other Trump-era blockbuster has so viscerally conveyed the feeling of being eclipsed by an immense darkness, or so convincingly illustrated the possibility of finding a new hope.
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/movies-define-trump-era-1201977873/
 
2018 is just another year since 1999 that proves you can't sell certain things off nostalgia alone. Trump may as well be the bottle of bleach that washes out this diarrheal movie theater nostalgia.

I felt numb after watching The Force Awakens, I actually fell asleep. Don't know what I was expecting at the time, but I made the wise decision not watching the last Jedi.

EDIT: My phones display is acting weird but still, what the fuck was that typo?
 
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Needless to say, that wasn’t appreciated by some of the people who’ve always felt entitled to their central role in this saga, and to the power that comes with it. Shrug emoji.
Yeah, fuck these Wookie Supremacists!

On a more serious note, will they ever realize how stupid this makes them look?
"Everybody that didn't like this joyless, committee approved, focus-group tested, soulless product by an uncaring megacorporation is literally Hitler" is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard and I just hope that one day, we'll look back as a society and see these ideology-driven hack reviewers for what they truly are.

...it also tapped into the desperation of being wronged, and the sacrifices required to restore the balance between them.
Oh yeah. The sacrifices... the ones that Miss Chink-Market-Pandering called stupid, cause something something protect what you love.
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You know, all kidding aside, with all the bitching about how geezers like me only hate the new movies because of the minorities and stronk wimmins, has anyone noticed that Hux is regarded as a stupid joke himself? He should be everything a neckbeard likes: pasty, British, and in a badass longcoat, but from what I can tell he's regarded nearly as poorly as Rose or Holdo.

Hux is a joke. His presence and threat level is a joke. If Moff Tarkin was around, Hux would have been executed for incompetence. There was a reason people liked the Imperials despite them being the bad guys - they were efficient and dangerous. The New Order just seem like a bunch of idiots in black who could barely stamp out a fire let alone the 'Resistance'.
 
I felt numb after watching The Force Awakens, I actually fell asleep. Don't know what I was expecting at the time, but I made the wise dec6of not watching the last Jedi.
The outrage people had in The Last Jedi was the same one I felt with The Force Awakens. I felt slapped in the face by a fish that told me that everything that was accomplished in the original trilogy, Luke succeeding in saving the galaxy by redeeming Anakin, Han becoming a great role model to the galaxy, the hardships of the rebellion, Luke's strategy to not fall to the dark side, all that was for nothing now. I felt betrayed by a company that was clearly shitting out a corporate cash grab. That film helped plant the seeds for The Last Jedi in showing Luke as a beta cuck coward that betrayed the morals of his character development, showing that the Force is all bullshit, and showing that the rebels are lead by clueless women like Hondo.

This is why I keep hoping that Disney spins off Lucasfilm so that we can get rid of their canon out of the universe, but thanks to the real estate involve in the theme parks, that can't happen unfortunately.

If anything, I blame George Lucas for this. It was a stupid thing for him to sell it off to a company that was interested in nothing but money and cashing in on a shitty cash grab. The shit we've seen in the ST is all a result of Lucas' stupidity to sell his company to Disney and get $4 billion out of it.
 
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