Furry Fandom and Drama General

But if your income comes from commissions, that's a new set of challenges, namely networking and doing a lot of shit work to get to a higher-paying tier.

Y'know, kinda like 9-to-5 normies.

Assuming these complainers are in the furry art game, how many of them just made a profile on FA or whatever and expected to earn top dollar for minimal shit work?

(Spoiler: most, if not all of them.)
Oh they have jobs, they just blow their money on stupid shit. Hulex was a good example of this, his whole twitter feed's about bouncing between low wage jobs and poor money management.


Quite a few of them don't try or are incapable of being noticed outside the furry fandom. They believe they can make it big when in reality it's just like Twitch streaming or YouTube "content creation": Only those at the top are going to get noticed, with some of them making the same "quit your job for internet dollars" mistake so many end up making. There was a cracked article about furry porn artists and one of them even claimed they quit their stressful animator job in favor of drawing furry porn. I checked that persons Patreon account and they only had 25 patrons (with the money amount hidden), a paypal.me link in their bio, and an okay amount of watchers on FA, but were nowhere near the top.

It doesn't help that the furry art industry revolves around either being a popufur or drawing fanart.

This is a problem in general now that you can make profit from the internet. Why get a job to supplement your career and make possible extra money on the side when you can throw all of your eggs in one basket, fall, and then cry about having broken eggs. Furries and people now in general love the idea of money and getting it but don't want to put in the hard work. Furries are notorious for this even though there are a lot of furries who legitimately have jobs that pay 6 or more figures yearly. The hugely unbalanced furry economy where popufurs get possibly 90% of overall furry commissions and others get maybe 1% and how horridly competitive the art scene is in general is what's the problem.
 
Posts have just begun circulating accusing popular furry musician 4lung of cheating, and having a side-account on twitter for ABDL/Babyfur content.

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The individual posts themselves are not much without evidence, but some quick searches reveal that 1. The account existed, 2. Before being deleted, replies hinted at some kind of turmoil, and 3. Some of the accounts that cyandogy interacted with are either followed by 4lung too, or are associated with ABDL/Ageplay content.

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Posts have just begun circulating accusing popular furry musician 4lung of cheating, and having a side-account on twitter for ABDL/Babyfur content.

https://bpdpetergriffin.tumblr.com
http://archive.is/jWE5X

The individual posts themselves are not much without evidence, but some quick searches reveal that 1. The account existed, 2. Before being deleted, replies hinted at some kind of turmoil, and 3. Some of the accounts that cyandogy interacted with are either followed by 4lung too, or are associated with ABDL/Ageplay content.

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what makes furries so attracted to diapers? Especially after things like the whole Tacklebox situation where he drew that picture of an underaged looking character, and Adam Wan being called out for pedophilia almost every three or four months...
 
If utilized properly, said autism can probably land you a nice job with computers and general tech. Or any specialized skill, really.

The majority of kids on Twitter bitching have no marketable skills. If you glance their profiles I bet there's a mess of pronouns and buzzwords but no mention of a career.
Hell, there's an award-winning company here called the Specialists that get autists and downies into coding. Literal vegetables get more done than furries.
 
Today on furry drama, the latest thing Furry Twitter is bitching about are babyfurs, and another furry has been eaten alive by callouts. The subject of the drama this time around? A troon furry musician, 4lung who lives in Seattle (of course) and was known among some furries on Tumblr to the point of even having OCs and fanart based on his album covers. Not long ago he broke up with his GF and had callout posts made on Tumblr about him. The gist of them from Twitter screencaps is that he cheated on his GF since she wouldn't indulge in his age regression kink. He had an alt account he would use for babyfur fetish stuff as well.
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With the Tumblr furries still angry over the Floraverse scandal and the accusation waves against other furries that seem to happen every other week, 4lung tried to save face by making a post saying that "it's not a sexual fetish I swear" and claimed that his ex's callout post was full of lies.

This has led to a lot of Furry Twitter accounts doing the usual takes on babyfurs, while not even talking about what kicked it off in the first place, with some of them also pissing off babyfurs too.
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It amazes me time and time again that people reference this 'scene' or space that people partake in. There is no such thing. The closest to an objective center is Furaffinity.

Your "scene" is a telegram group and the people showing up in your "x liked this tweet"-feed. You wanna throw them out? Block them. Bam, they're out. I've cut out 4/5 of people from my past from my current ''scene'' and it's liberating. People should try it, but then again, they feed off of the attention given by association, as they often rarely produce anything of quality themselves.

//Saw a thread of someone saying a fursuit is a luxury, and people both argue against that and underline the fact they cost $2-3k. Not worth digging up but jesus fuck people are hopeless when they can't compare prices to art commissions. You can pick up literally any hobby or buy a carbon bike for that money.

Nah mate, need this mascot costume I can wear 3 weeks a year.
 
It amazes me time and time again that people reference this 'scene' or space that people partake in. There is no such thing. The closest to an objective center is Furaffinity.

Your "scene" is a telegram group and the people showing up in your "x liked this tweet"-feed. You wanna throw them out? Block them. Bam, they're out. I've cut out 4/5 of people from my past from my current ''scene'' and it's liberating. People should try it, but then again, they feed off of the attention given by association, as they often rarely produce anything of quality themselves.

//Saw a thread of someone saying a fursuit is a luxury, and people both argue against that and underline the fact they cost $2-3k. Not worth digging up but jesus fuck people are hopeless when they can't compare prices to art commissions. You can pick up literally any hobby or buy a carbon bike for that money.

Nah mate, need this mascot costume I can wear 3 weeks a year.
Pretty much, as someone who's been on the internet long enough I know exactly what happens when you kick someone out of a group. The person or people you kicked will start a new one and if the rest of the chat loved the person you kicked your group will die out. There isn't really a center to the fandom at all.

You could buy a decent used car for $2-3k that'll get you to work and back. There are so many things you could buy in that price bracket that are both more useful and in the case of hobbies, will leave you with more skills than wearing an animal costume.
 
You could buy a decent used car for $2-3k that'll get you to work and back. There are so many things you could buy in that price bracket that are both more useful and in the case of hobbies, will leave you with more skills than wearing an animal costume.

I mean, fursuits are dumb af, but I am definitely on the side of "they're a luxury, stop bitching that you can't have one". Honestly it's up there with art commissions. People think they're entitled to that shit but there's a reason that the rich families/churches were the only ones who mostly paid for all the commissions from the Old Masters.
 
I mean, fursuits are dumb af, but I am definitely on the side of "they're a luxury, stop bitching that you can't have one". Honestly it's up there with art commissions. People think they're entitled to that shit but there's a reason that the rich families/churches were the only ones who mostly paid for all the commissions from the Old Masters.
Ten thousand fucking dollars for a big piece of fabric some fat loser sewed together in their hole. I bet you China could make dat shit for a fraction of the price.
 
This just in: Fandom artistry is not actual artistry; it's drawing for friends except you're being paid and as such don't have to deliver on time or treat people like customers.
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This vile person, effectively benefirting financially off of a strong network, only wants to strengthen said network!

If these furballs considered fandom artist an actual job they'd finish drawings in a timely fashion, treat people with respect in fear they'd stop going to your for their money dumping needs, and actually lower your prices/better your standards to attract more customers or strengthen their eRep.

Instead there's 3 miles of unwritten rules about how anyone bothering to draw your character (regardless of pay) is an angel and must be protected, and you should at all times motivate others to heighten their prices as much as possible because (they deserve it!) then you can justify raising your own as well.

This vile person made their intentions abundantly clear and leaked this secret strategy! As if it's a fucking mystery why artists only hang around other artists. Personally seen a handful of friends grow from absolute nobodies to semi-niche kink artists who suddenly had friends out both ears, 90% of who were artists or immense popufurs.

I especially love the Twitter thread turning into any call-out post on Lulz; suddenly everyone feels great about opening up about an objectively 'bad' person because any negativity or hostility in the fandom is frowned upon, which is probably why KF is so vilified.


I mean, fursuits are dumb af, but I am definitely on the side of "they're a luxury, stop bitching that you can't have one". Honestly it's up there with art commissions. People think they're entitled to that shit but there's a reason that the rich families/churches were the only ones who mostly paid for all the commissions from the Old Masters.
Granted not so much autism in the thread, it was retweeted and fav'd a bit.
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"I need a suit because I'm being noticed as that person, being in a mascot costume will certainly fix that".

Not one mention of fitting into the fandom, selling yourself as your OC franchise to the public for more followers, or just.. "I can afford it". Brilliant.
 
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Excuse the double post, just separating the two.

Granted not so much autism in the thread, it was retweeted and fav'd a bit.
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"I need a suit because I'm being noticed as that person, being in a mascot costume will certainly fix that".

Not one mention of fitting into the fandom, selling yourself as your OC franchise to the public for more followers, or just.. "I can afford it". Brilliant.

Furry fandom is one toxic culture.

And perhaps what HurrDurr needs to learn is, if being a furry jeopardizes his reputation and career then DONT BE A FURRY. If he wants to save himself embarrassment or ridicule then DON’T BE A FURRY. If being a successful professional is important to him then hang with those guys, not furries. Why is it furfags think theirs is the only social group?
 
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