Bad webcomics

[Ghostse]

Many kings had close male friends, Gaveston's closeness to Edward the II is not unusual at at all. Hell being super close to the king became an official court position, the groom of throne who knew all of the king's secrets, wiped the king's ass and probably shaved his balls too.

That's one of the things that makes the non-slander hard to unwrap for modern folks looking back, same-sex emotional intimacy didn't always equate to sexual intimacy, and its almost impossible to tell after the fact if it did or not. There is no such thing as neutral source for that.

On the other side of things, there is also the "Man love thursday" issue. Which is Afghans & SEA cultures are notorious for all the dude-on-dude sex they get upto, on thursdays before they wash up on friday for the mosque. But its fine, no one is gay because they aren't in love, so totes halal. If you were in love, then you're faggots and need to tossed off a cliff. But if its just some totally hetero mutual blowjobs, Allah's ok with that.
So maybe King Edward simply had some completely hetero mutual j/o sessions with Gaveston; neither would have considered themselves gay.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

The whole idea of being exclusively heterosexual or homosexual is a relatively recent invention.

 

[Chiang Kai-shek]

That's one of the things that makes the non-slander hard to unwrap for modern folks looking back, same-sex emotional intimacy didn't always equate to sexual intimacy, and its almost impossible to tell after the fact if it did or not. There is no such thing as neutral source for that.

On the other side of things, there is also the "Man love thursday" issue. Which is Afghans & SEA cultures are notorious for all the dude-on-dude sex they get upto, on thursdays before they wash up on friday for the mosque. But its fine, no one is gay because they aren't in love, so totes halal. If you were in love, then you're faggots and need to tossed off a cliff. But if its just some totally hetero mutual blowjobs, Allah's ok with that.
So maybe King Edward simply had some completely hetero mutual j/o sessions with Gaveston; neither would have considered themselves gay.

Don’t forget Bacha bazi! Totally not pedophilia it’s pederasty!

I think it’s been mentioned but David Willis’ Dumbing of Age is bad. I remember one comic that just sperging over dinosaurs not having feathers and it was really preachy. I have no idea how anyone found enjoyment out of that webcomic. The addition of a deaf character was unintentionally funny because Willis had no idea how to do ASL in comics.

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

Don’t forget Bacha bazi! Totally not pedophilia it’s pederasty!

I think it’s been mentioned but David Willis’ Dumbing of Age is bad. I remember one comic that just sperging over dinosaurs not having feathers and it was really preachy. I have no idea how anyone found enjoyment out of that webcomic. The addition of a deaf character was unintentionally funny because Willis had no idea how to do ASL in comics.

Ah yeah, that was awful. He just drew her hands as blue outlines and it looked like they were phasing into another dimension.

But yeah, really awful comic with awful characters. The whole premise of it is a horrible case of a writer getting stuck in their past as well and it's depressing.

 

[Dragon Face]

Don’t forget Bacha bazi! Totally not pedophilia it’s pederasty!

I think it’s been mentioned but David Willis’ Dumbing of Age is bad. I remember one comic that just sperging over dinosaurs not having feathers and it was really preachy. I have no idea how anyone found enjoyment out of that webcomic. The addition of a deaf character was unintentionally funny because Willis had no idea how to do ASL in comics.

Is it bad that I can tell their ASL is extremely rookie? Well, actually yes, that's bad, this shows me their lack of understanding on our language and a poor research about us. They're not fluent in ASL. At all.

What made him a critic of ASL? We have a general unwritten rule that hearing people or people who are still learning ASL should back off from criticizing our language, so he just disrespected our culture. So, that showed that me he has no understanding of our culture.

And I've noticed that in some comic strip, he didn't take in consideration that we are extremely dependent on our eyes to receive information. I'm really bugged by how he doesn't make that Deaf character look at the other character speaking to them. So, that's another thing- lack of IRL exposure to Deaf people!

Overall, like you've said, he had no idea what they're doing. He is better off not to write about us or include our language in his work until he has an excellent understanding of us. I can not relate to that Deaf character because of everything above.
0/10 recommended read.

This is coming from an ASL Deaf person.

 

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Q.E.D.:

(Also holy moly the girl in the comic above just randomly changes proportions for every frame)

 

[Dilligaff]

Man, ol' toothpaste hair has stubby arms.

Edit: or a really big fat head. Or both.

 

[Donovan the Man]

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I'm just at a lost this turd has a deadname when the name they want people to use is feminine. Deadnames are supposed to give away you used to be the opposite gender, everybody's still going to think you are a woman when your name is fucking Luna.

This comic is such a fantasy. You know she just mopes in the corner thinking about witty comebacks while her mom asks her when she's going to meet a nice boy. SJWs for all their squawking online buckle when it comes to their shitlord families.

 

[Wabbu]

If my daugther wanted to be called something stupid like Luna I would shrug it off as well.
Also, that last pannel, shelooks like a man!

 

[UtopiaGuy]

:powerlevel:

The main character in the comic is really pretty horrible and treats everyone who isn't gender-confused as if they were monsters. The comic itself only exists to give the creator some kind of outlet to fulfill the fantasy of "I wish I'd have said this! That would fix 'em for giving me a hard time!" But in real life, they'd never dare utter a word, let alone an angry rant to someone who used the "wrong" pronoun. And that's all this comic is. The main character putting normal people in their place with some cutting, rude, "witty" retort or comment. It's strawmanning at its finest, and that's where the underlying design of the comic and this character utterly fail... it can't do anything else, hardly. As for the character, it makes her/they/them/it/avocado/beryllium/Tuesday/abra-cadabra/whatever thoroughly unpleasant and unlikable. Could you imaging having to work with this person? Be friends with this person? Spend any amount of time around this person? Hire this person? Why would anyone, normie or gender-confused, want to? You'd be subjected to constant negative rants over the slightest thing. Even if the rants were directed at other people, it would get old fast.

Add to this the bizarre contradictions of the character/s supposedly being asexual, yet they have a gender choice, gender-specific pronouns, and sexual desires and preferences, all of which seem random and constantly changing, and you have a comic that fails to make any meaningful statement whatsoever, or giving a voice to the very small, tiny choir it preaches to.

Whoever makes this comic apparently sees a whole gourmet meal when looking at a puddle of vomit on the sidewalk instead of something you may not want to stare at or admire, let alone taste so you can write a Yelp review of the restaurant the meal originally came from.

And then there's two trends in the art that bug me. The lousy style, of course, is another. But just look at this thing. The character has neon green eyes, hair three shades of purple, a plaid shirt, and a bow tie. Who the fuck wears crap like that outside of one of the Joker's henchmen? Why do these people always make their characters so garish? And the second trend is something I've seen before in these kind of comics. Namely, the protagonist is depicted as a person, but the normal people/strawmen around them are not. They're always depicted as grey or white shapes, non-people in silhouette. This person didn't come up with it, but you see it in these kind of comics. I suppose it's meant to show just how unimportant normies are in their world, but FFS, just fucking draw them.

UGH! That's more than I thought I'd ever write or think about this shitty comic.

 

[Sonya-chan]

Luna Tiny lolcow thread when ? I have so many things to share

 

[Zap Rowsdower]

:powerlevel:
And then there's two trends in the art that bug me. The lousy style, of course, is another. But just look at this thing. The character has neon green eyes, hair three shades of purple, a plaid shirt, and a bow tie. Who the fuck wears crap like that outside of one of the Joker's henchmen? Why do these people always make their characters so garish? And the second trend is something I've seen before in these kind of comics. Namely, the protagonist is depicted as a person, but the normal people/strawmen around them are not. They're always depicted as grey or white shapes, non-people in silhouette. This person didn't come up with it, but you see it in these kind of comics. I suppose it's meant to show just how unimportant normies are in their world, but FFS, just fucking draw them.

I have a very strict policy of avoiding people who wear fingerless gloves. It's served me well so far.

 

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And then there's two trends in the art that bug me. The lousy style, of course, is another. But just look at this thing. The character has neon green eyes, hair three shades of purple, a plaid shirt, and a bow tie. Who the fuck wears crap like that outside of one of the Joker's henchmen? Why do these people always make their characters so garish? And the second trend is something I've seen before in these kind of comics. Namely, the protagonist is depicted as a person, but the normal people/strawmen around them are not. They're always depicted as grey or white shapes, non-people in silhouette. This person didn't come up with it, but you see it in these kind of comics. I suppose it's meant to show just how unimportant normies are in their world, but FFS, just fucking draw them.

I haven't seen much of this comic, but from the excerpt I posted alone, I don't doubt the artist is exceptionally lazy in the ways you've mentioned. In just those six miserable frames, what you said is already demonstrated but the laziness extends to just how the art is blatantly careless. Obviously the proportions just constantly change in each frame as I said, but furthermore look at the shape of the head. The character is meant to be twisting their head up and down, and is even intended to be resting their chin in their hand in the second panel. But the head shape doesn't change--it's just copied and pasted and the artist just moved the facial features up and down rather than take two minutes to redraw their potato head because for some reason they don't know how to draw a chin. Hence why Jay Leno suddenly guest stars:

 

[SpaceRanger]

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So she invented toilet paper, handsoap, the gameboy, thermometers, rubber nipples, heroin needles, pills AND flasks?!

That is an impressive array of inventions!
Why isn't she in our history books?!

 

[Vorhtbame]

So she invented toilet paper, handsoap, the gameboy, thermometers, rubber nipples, heroin needles, pills AND flasks?!

That is an impressive array of inventions!
Why isn't she in our history books?!

Because history books aren't among thing him like to invent.

Next frame: They is seen eating McDonald's alone in a car full of luggage, writing a post on Tumblr about how everyone in the house clapped, and Dad gave them %100$.

 

[Blood Debts]

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How can this person really think they're framing this like they're in the right when they repeatedly interrupt someone else's conversation and then act like a condescending shit when that person gets annoyed? Also those tiny baby hands in the last panel, good God.

 

[billydero]

Dana always had a *massive* chip on her shoulder about the fact she spent absolute years working on Ozy and Millie but Newspaper syndicates always rejected it. It's no longer on the archived comic site - but there used to be a whole "early history" section documenting the early strips which came before she really started the series proper and her attempts to sell it to papers who would often ask for more sunday strips or better quality. Early O&M hasn't the best inking quality, it got better over time.

Ozy and Millie could be quite smart sometimes, but mostly it was riding the coattails of Mr Waterson's work a bit too much without being quite as charming. I loved the characters, but Dana always let the idea that, one day, she might get O&M syndicated pull her back from doing any significant character development.

At the time she had a dedicated fan-forum called "Define Cynical" which consisted of fans following the comics. She used to endorse it, but the fans found she become quite hostile during her transition and O&M suffered as she went back to college to learn art. Which also led to her dropping traditional inking for digital drawing and new strips starting to look "off" from how she used to draw it. It basically got to a point where the fans themselves became tired and fed up with very half-hearted arcs when Dana was bothered to draw O&M. She eventually announced O&M would be ending and would be wrapping up some plots before moving on. This was also around the time she started working on Raine Dog V1.

The final weeks of the comic consisted of rushed character development, with Llewellyn Dragon and Millie's Mother suddenly going steady and getting married. This made Ozy and Millie step-brother and sister, which rather messed with fans hopes they would be a couple when older someday. Also a saga where the stereotypical "mean girl" character suddenly became goth.

The fans had mixed feelings about Raine Dog to start, but general thought was that it looked sloppy and it took forever for the story to really start....then it did start, with the infamous "talking dog snogs her young boy master" page. While the fan forum had been bit divided on the quality of O&M, there was collective fire over that and Raine Dog's very pretentious "I'm hipster liberal" tone (the comic literally starts with her self-insert in the future getting an overpriced bistro chain coffee while lecturing the audience)

Needless to say, she later called her own fan-forums toxic and it generally just became a bunch of veteran posters hanging out together and re-reading O&M with a critical eye and wondering where it all went south.

Dana eventually got her break by entering an early version of Heavenly Nostrils / Phoebe and her Unicorn simply known as "Girl" when submitted to a syndicate contest. She won and the comic took an age to morph into what it is now, but at it's core it's generally Ozy and Millie with the character cast chopped down. I think she's since ended up working with Toonami a bit alongside her comics. Good for her I suppose, but it's always been a shame she just dropped O&M for slightly blander offerings.

I never read O&M so when I encountered Phoebe and her Unicorn, I thought THAT was the Dana comic that was heavily derivative of Calvin and Hobbes. I'm sure Dana calls it 'being inspired by Bill Watterson!' rather than derivative, of course.

I seem to recall she did a Twitter post a while back where she announces she's 'the creator of Girl Calvin and Hobbes!'. I wonder how much of that statement was rueful self deprecation.

Phoebe and her Unicorn is.... OK, I guess? It's entertaining, but I have a hard time reading it knowing Snyder is transgender and wondering how much of the strip is 'of course I'm a real girl, see, I can write girl characters!' or is otherwise her sublimating her LGBT viewpoints into the comic. I kind of wish that if she wants to emulate Watterson, be like him in his reclusive nature ... so I wouldn't know anything about her personal life.

 

[Ghostse]

I never read O&M so when I encountered Phoebe and her Unicorn, I thought THAT was the Dana comic that was heavily derivative of Calvin and Hobbes. I'm sure Dana calls it 'being inspired by Bill Watterson!' rather than derivative, of course.

I seem to recall she did a Twitter post a while back where she announces she's 'the creator of Girl Calvin and Hobbes!'. I wonder how much of that statement was rueful self deprecation.

Phoebe and her Unicorn is.... OK, I guess? It's entertaining, but I have a hard time reading it knowing Snyder is transgender and wondering how much of the strip is 'of course I'm a real girl, see, I can write girl characters!' or is otherwise her sublimating her LGBT viewpoints into the comic. I kind of wish that if she wants to emulate Watterson, be like him in his reclusive nature ... so I wouldn't know anything about her personal life.

I honest wouldn't care about him cosplaying as a little girl in a comic, its all of his other barely-under-the-radar fetishes that up the creep factor, like his shaving fetish, and you know he's working his prostate as he's writing it.

Don't read the thing so not sure how much GBLT stuff she crams in; you can push your faggot acceptance agenda under the guise of "be yourself" and "don't judge others", which are generally good life lessons for kids, so as long as its not encouraging the "you are literally hitler if you don't suck tranny cock" mental illness, meh.

I mean Sid & Marty Krofft had unimpeded access to the minds of a whole generation of kids in the 70's and they turned out... oh wait.

 

[Vorhtbame]

I honest wouldn't care about him cosplaying as a little girl in a comic, its all of his other barely-under-the-radar fetishes that up the creep factor, like his shaving fetish, and you know he's working his prostate as he's writing it.

Don't read the thing so not sure how much GBLT stuff she crams in; you can push your faggot acceptance agenda under the guise of "be yourself" and "don't judge others", which are generally good life lessons for kids, so as long as its not encouraging the "you are literally hitler if you don't suck tranny cock" mental illness, meh.

I mean Sid & Marty Krofft had unimpeded access to the minds of a whole generation of kids in the 70's and they turned out... oh wait.

I read most of the Phoebe comics, and found it refreshingly innocent, charming, and devoid of politics and gender chatter; really made my day feel brighter for reading it.

But maybe I'm too innocent myself and don't see all the deviant subtext.

 

[One Man Bland]

Q.E.D.:

Yes, this doesn't scream "spoiled upper-middle class college freshman who took one Gender Studies course and suddenly think she knows everything" at all.

Also gotta love how she portrays her own damn self insert just sitting on her ass and bitching while her parents are doing all her work to get her stuff, complete with the classic "this is beneath me" examining fingernail pose usually reserved for the spoiled rich twats in children's cartoons.

What's Luna's major again?