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These movies are not very good but I actually think Rey is ok in the bland kind of way and Rogue One was a decent film.
Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off
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It's hard to care. They've made it hard to care.
Look, if The Last Jedi had merely been an awful film, that would be one thing. There would be concern, outrage, anger, and all that not because of fandom entitlement, but because Star Wars is a cultural landmark, and after the entertaining but hollow rehash that was The Force Awakens, a follow up that's a complete piece of shit introduces grave concerns as to what that landmark's caretaker is doing to it. But it was worse than that. Luke Skywalker, a true cultural icon himself and arguably the most important figure in the franchise, was trashed for no reason at all, other than "subverting expectations."
Turning Luke into a bitter old hermit who'd given up on the Jedi and life in general would be a tricky thing, but it could have been done with the right storytelling and the right foundation laid in either movie. That wasn't done. Hugely important events in his life are relegated to flashbacks and cryptic references. Since he's dead, there seems to be no expectation that we're going to get any better answers -- and even if we did, that wouldn't excuse the shoddiness of his character arc.
But the worst thing they did was to inject a political agenda into it. That's bad enough, but doubling down on it in the wake of the criticism; turning it into a litmus test where whether you like it or not makes you an Enlightened Feminist or a Degenerate Shitlord, was the stupidest fucking thing they could have done. Now you haven't just let the audience down: you've alienated a significant chunk of it. Instead of acknowledging they'd made a "controversial" movie, they're going the Spinal Tap route: they're okay with the audience becoming "more selective." How can Disney win the audience back when its proxies and shills have made it abundantly clear they don't want to win it back?
Episode IX might well be the greatest science fantasy film of the last fifty years. It might be a groundbreaking piece of entertainment. It might totally redeem the entire series in a single 145 minute cinematic miracle.
But I won't be there to see it.
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Seeing how Disney Star Wars reminded me of the three times the studio nearly went bankrupt. You know what they did to renew interest? They made super cheap movies (Dumbo, Robin Hood and The Great Mouse Detective respectively) that managed to get the studio out of debt and allowed classics like Bambi, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and Who Framed Roger Rabbit/Oliver and Company! to be made. I think that would be something that would help Star Wars out. To make things even better, just make it a cheesy movie in a similar vein to the serials that inspired Star Wars. Do something like Have an attractive bikini wearing Galactic Princess fight Boba Fett for the control of the Droid Making planet and have a duel atop a hover train. Something exciting, bold and a bit silly that would get the audience to their seats and show that the mistakes of the Last Jedi have been learned.
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M i l k it for 100 years with indifference like they originally planned and pin all the blame on Rian Johnson and act like their indifferent corporate managing was not at fault. Then they'll fuck it up again down the line and repeat the same shit all over again while Marvel, EA and authors like Wendig keep pumping out garbage spinoffs.
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1. After pinching myself to make sure it wasn't an insomniac-fueled dream, I might be a bit impressed that
2. To be honest, I have no idea, just like @Elwood P. Dowd has suggested. Given the lower than expected reception and revenues from TLJ and Solo, Disney appears to be concerned enough that they put anthology films and spinoffs on hold for now, if not permanently. If Episode IX flops, one would hope (
, undoubtedly) Disney would do some soul-searching and figure out what went wrong and what works -- stuff we've discussed at length there. If Episode IX does somehow manage to be well-received all-around, one would hope Disney would figure out a way to keep the positive momentum going and not regress to what didn't work.Realistically, I think that Disney will continue the status quo so long as there's no changes in writers and the creative team (and yes, I use the term "creative team" loosely).
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They did this from a narrative and cinematic angle. There is no cliffhanger to resolve. No rising tension in need of a climax. No characters mid-arc needing to transform.
What is left to lure movie-goers into the theatre?
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"Maybe it won't suck this time" is not exactly a thrilling tagline.
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Dec. 2019...
Get ready for...
STAR WARS: EPISODE IX: MAYBE THIS ONE WON'T SUCK.
Then the Star Wars theme blares.
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Billy Dee Williams is rolled out in wheelchair and oxygen mask. "Hannn ollllld budddddyyy..." *slumps over, fills adult diaper*
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To be honest, that's probably more dignified than whatever Kennedy's got planned for Lando...
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Makes me think how great an "IG-88: A Star Wars Story" could have been. IG-88 is out planning his droid revolution to take over the galaxy, and he wakes up an HK-series droid. Most of the rest of the movie is an orgy of droid on droid violence.
If Disney Star Wars had been run as well as Disney Marvel, I guarantee we would've got a movie about all those bounty hunters in ESB not named Boba Fett. Bugs me to no end that characters known only to Marvel fans like Ant-Man and the Guardians of the Galaxy get big movies, but characters known only to Star Wars fans will never get that treatment.
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Carrie Fisher's corpse then falls out of a closet.
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With utter amazement and disbelief.
The biggest obstacle the next movie has to overcome is literally the last movie that came out in that trilogy. They somehow have to wash away the foul taste of TLJ, they have to give the trilogy an amazing conclusion and they have to make it in a way that TLJ actually has a point.
The biggest issue with TLJ is that you don't have to watch it if you add the lines "Only 12 members of the Resistance escaped the retaliation of the First Order after they lost Starkiller Base. Also, Luke and Snoke are dead." to the next movie.
And that's just one of the things it has to smartly address somehow. It certainly doesn't help that they are stuck with rather unlikeable characters that I couldn't give less of a shit about, even if I tried.
Part of what could make the next movie be great is by giving the audience something that's smart, unexpected and satisfying to a point that it somehow manages to tie together TFA and TLJ and somehow cover for their respective weaknesses.
So, part of this is something creative and unexpected, but I don't see where they could go from here. I expect a lame ROTJ clone with a few Reylo undertones and that's it.
Storywise? I fear something colossaly stupid.
What they direly need is someone with a vision. Someone who wants to tell a story that fits into the Star Wars franchise without being a mere carbon copy of the old movies.
What we'll get is uninspired "Chosen one is born and goes on the typical journey" trope. The only thing that I am looking forward to is how long they'll drag the Millenium Falcon along in this shitshow.
That being said: I halfway expect them to blow up the Falcon in IX. If it survives that movie, I expect it to become a staple of uninspired ripoff SW flics.
To this day, I can't fathom how stupid Disney was for killing the EU. Imagine they had bought Marvel and announced that no comic previous to their acquisition is considered canon anymore. The biggest stength of the Marvel movies is the plethora of comics to draw ideas, concepts, heroes, characters, plotpoints and using them for movies.
The same could have been done with SW and they would still have been free to do whatever they want and change or combine things any way they deem good.
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I mean really, who liked the inferior copies?
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The same thing that George Lucas did, not creating any movies for a while but creating a new extended universe pre-approved by the house of the mouse because "Now everything needs to be canon", they already planned that day one that is why they burned to cinders the old extended canon
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1) Verify if i was drugged (medication i might take at the time (Never knows when someone will get sick ) not counting) or if i'm having a stroke because i would be that much in shock or disbelief
2) The same as now until they fuck again
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Fuck you for making me want this thing that will never be.
The premise only works with the HK-50 model. HK-47 had no desire to eradicate all organic life. He was all about the art of the individual kill. He was an assassin droid's assassin droid. HK-50 were the ones that wanted to assassinate the entire galaxy.
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Oh. Weird ghing i remember from the Old EU: Remember when IG-88A mind was in the computer core for the second Death Star? I shit you not and his body survived until 24 ABY