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[myst]

90% of people who make the OK sign do it to troll bluechecks.

 

[It's HK-47]

I don't even know what else to say about this, this is just incredible. They're seriously dusting him off to have him campaign around for the midterms even though all that he ever did was cost his party elections. The guy's endorsement was a political Kiss of Death, and they're going to shove him out on stage and spout all of this buzzword nonsense just to keep far-Left Regressives riled up.

This would be like dusting off George Bush to campaign for the GOP in 2010. This is an astoundingly terrible plan.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

90% of people who make the OK sign do it to troll bluechecks.

I lean pretty left and me and my buddies do that shit all the time in messenger. It's kinda hilarious that people don't realize it's a way to root out people that read to much into dumb political stuff.

Like they don't realize the joke is taking something so ubiquitous as the "OK" sign and making idiots think there is something more to it.

 

[NotoriousD]

I don't even have anything to say about this, this is just incredible. They're seriously dusting him off to have him campaign around for the midterms even though all that he ever did was cost his party elections. The guy's endorsement was a political Kiss of Death, and they're going to shove him out on stage and spout all of this buzzword nonsense just to keep far-Left Regressives riled up.

This would be like dusting off George Bush to campaign for the GOP in 2010. This is an astoundingly terrible plan.

Does this mean Obama isn't letting any of it go? He's trying to dig back in and be relevant again?

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

90% of people who make the OK sign do it to troll bluechecks.

At least nowadays. And there is no real sport in trolling people this gullible.

Edit: Then again, in many cases, there is a lot of humor in it. So I don't know...

 

[Nuthatch]

I don't even have anything to say about this, this is just incredible. They're seriously dusting him off to have him campaign around for the midterms even though all that he ever did was cost his party elections. The guy's endorsement was a political Kiss of Death, and they're going to shove him out on stage and spout all of this buzzword nonsense just to keep far-Left Regressives riled up.

This would be like dusting off George Bush to campaign for the GOP in 2010. This is an astoundingly terrible plan.

Ok, but we all know what would really happen if Trump said this exact thing.

"Nazis are bad."

"That's exactly what a Nazi would say! I fucking knew it!"

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Does this mean Obama isn't letting any of it go? He's trying to dig back in and be relevant again?

I almost feel like his wife's given him back his big boy pants to run her campaign for her (the Democrats are still pushing for Michelle, right? Or did they give up on that?) because he's a better public speaker than she is, but then once she's elected she'll take those pants back and take all the credit.

But most likely Barrack Hussein Obama (mmm, mmm, mmm) is just jealous that the media's cheating on a white man (a.k.a. getting ass-fucked by Daddy Trump because they secretly like it) when they were sucking his big black dick for eight years and he's grown tired of sucking his wife's dick and getting nothing in return.

 

[XYZpdq]

The funniest thing for me about the hystericals that are harping about Roe v Wade being done away with (which it won't be) is that this is the same side that that now adores Dubya despite the fact he was quite literally the last and final hurrah of their mortal enemy, the evangelocons which have largely figuratively and literally died out for MAGA populism to take it's place and most of them don't care as much about abortion as the pink hat crowd thinks they do

I was pretty happy to declare them dead (and the libertarians along with it because most of the sane libertarians were pot smokers who only loathed evangelicals more than they loathed taxes) but if the libs keep insisting on not only shitting the bed, but remaining in the bed and continuing to shit in it and then yell at you for being shitphobic and their eternal enemy in past and future if you bring it up even if you liked being in the bed with them before they started shitting in it I could honestly see the Religious Right hold on a few cycles more than I thought they'd last after seeing them declare against Trump and it didn't matter at all.
(That resembled a good sentence in a first draft but fuck it.)

Live by the leak.
Die by the leak.

I would have guessed that fake leaks would have been used sooner to stir up shit sooner then Trump. But I guess as it all just burns down I am sitting here watching a WWE Hall of Fame member making a mockery of established journalism.

Gotta work them dirtsheets brotherdudejack

 

[Superman93]

I don't even know what else to say about this, this is just incredible. They're seriously dusting him off to have him campaign around for the midterms even though all that he ever did was cost his party elections. The guy's endorsement was a political Kiss of Death, and they're going to shove him out on stage and spout all of this buzzword nonsense just to keep far-Left Regressives riled up.

This would be like dusting off George Bush to campaign for the GOP in 2010. This is an astoundingly terrible plan.

To be fair a lot more people like Obama far more than George Bush. Still fucking exceptional how they have to constantly refer back to a politician that isn't even relevant anymore. "See how we use to like this guy! Well he said this so we are correct "

 

[Vorhtbame]

To be fair a lot more people like Obama far more than George Bush. Still fucking exceptional how they have to constantly refer back to a politician that isn't even relevant anymore. "See how we use to like this guy! Well he said this so we are correct "

Reminds one of the Boomers' obsession with Woodstock.

 

[XYZpdq]

Reminds one of the Boomers' obsession with Woodstock.

Woodstock? That's too old for- oh wait you mean real boomers not *sip* boomers.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I don't even know what else to say about this, this is just incredible. They're seriously dusting him off to have him campaign around for the midterms even though all that he ever did was cost his party elections. The guy's endorsement was a political Kiss of Death, and they're going to shove him out on stage and spout all of this buzzword nonsense just to keep far-Left Regressives riled up.

This would be like dusting off George Bush to campaign for the GOP in 2010. This is an astoundingly terrible plan.

Of course they are. See here’s the Dems huge problem. The one the Media won’t talk about. Trump has surprisingly high approval among Black Men. Possibly nearing 30%. That doesn’t seem like much until you look at the near total capture of Black voters by the Dems for generations. Losing even 20% of the Black vote would make them at best a regional party. So they are dusting off Obama in the hopes of solidifying their captive base. I’m not sure it will work. While Black women largely live Obama, Black Men have some resentful undercurrents. Their lives largely got worse under Obama. Whereas Trump is experiencing the lowest Black ?Unemployment numbers in over a century.

And most people are smart enough to realize that the economic turnaround comes from lower taxes and vastly reduced regulation. Contrary to what the media would have you believe, people are by and large not idiots.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

He actually did it. He managed to spark a little bit of legitimate anger out of me. All throughout his presidency all he did was shit all over G.W Bush for "handing him a broken economy" and he went on and on about how "those jobs are never coming back" and "this is the new normal" and "What magic wand does Trump have?" and now that the economy's whipped itself back around and started breaking record after record, suddenly that's "his" economy and he deserves the credit for it.

What an unbelievably sanctimonious piece of human garbage.

He had the weakest economic growth since the Great Depression. How he did was bail out the bankers and expanded more Bush-era tax cuts. In addition, his Obamacare was so fucking atrocious in insurance premiums that it cost people money forcing them to go unemployed. Also, let’s not forget he pushed TPP which would’ve fucked every single middle class worker, especially those in the Midwest. As for his bullshit DACA, that allowed illegal immigrants to take others jobs. This guy is the biggest cuck on the planet. My dad fully regrets voting for him twice.

I don't even know what else to say about this, this is just incredible. They're seriously dusting him off to have him campaign around for the midterms even though all that he ever did was cost his party elections. The guy's endorsement was a political Kiss of Death, and they're going to shove him out on stage and spout all of this buzzword nonsense just to keep far-Left Regressives riled up.

This would be like dusting off George Bush to campaign for the GOP in 2010. This is an astoundingly terrible plan.

This fucker was like the ultimate cancer to the Democrats. Every midterm since 2010 has been on middle finger on his presidency. Weak economy, worse on foreign policy than Bush, incredibly shitty healthcare law, did nothing about the race war with the cops, did nothing about both our broken immigration and gun laws, shoved climate change propaganda down our throats. He also contributed in the rise of the SJWs as his 2008 election inspired the idea of political correctness and identity politics pandering.

You can argue about the GOP and their response to Obama’s policies, but the reason they have been successful since 2010 is because they at the least acknowledge the failures of Bush and tried to distant themselves from him in hope of trying to swing voters in blue states back to red states.

Of course they are. See here’s the Dems huge problem. The one the Media won’t talk about. Trump has surprisingly high approval among Black Men. Possibly nearing 30%. That doesn’t seem like much until you look at the near total capture of Black voters by the Dems for generations. Losing even 20% of the Black vote would make them at best a regional party. So they are dusting off Obama in the hopes of solidifying their captive base. I’m not sure it will work. While Black women largely live Obama, Black Men have some resentful undercurrents. Their lives largely got worse under Obama. Whereas Trump is experiencing the lowest Black ?Unemployment numbers in over a century.

And most people are smart enough to realize that the economic turnaround comes from lower taxes and vastly reduced regulation. Contrary to what the media would have you believe, people are by and large not idiots.

Let’s not forget that stupid slap fight between the black community and the cops during his presidency, which he did nothing about. It’s appalling that we would have racial tensions under a black presidency after all those propagandists in the MSM assured us that racism would be killed by Obama.

 

[It's HK-47]

And not a single second of his time served will be served for colluding with Russia in the 2016 election. If you'll excuse me, I have to go wheeze-laugh my entire ass off for the next hour or two because this week has been way too much fun.

 

[JustStopDude]

Trump has surprisingly high approval among Black Men. Possibly nearing 30%

30% of a voting group that has the worst participation rate.

What is that...230 potential votes?

 

[BubbleButt]

 

[xX_rAcE_wAr_420_Xx]

And not a single second of his time served will be served for colluding with Russia in the 2016 election. If you'll excuse me, I have to go wheeze-laugh my entire ass off for the next hour or two because this week has been way too much fun.

I forget, how much did people screech about this guy being one of the lynchpins of the Russian meme conspiracy? Because this is shaping up to be quite a bit like the last time an entire political party was chomping at the bit to get a president impeached, but only succeeded in a minor way by sheer technicality.

 

[It's HK-47]

I forget, how much did people screech about this guy being one of the lynchpins of the Russian meme conspiracy? Because this is shaping up to be quite a bit like the last time an entire political party was chomping at the bit to get a president impeached, but only succeeded in a minor way by sheer technicality.

Extreme Nutshell Mode: Before they realized that all of the stuff they leveled at Carter Page would blow back in their face once we worked out what Bruce Ohr's involvement was, they were rabid to get Carter Page thrown into a cell and locked away for life because of the Steele Dossier. Once someone went, "Wait what about Bruce Ohr" they all collectively shit themselves and the narrative violently switched to it all originating from Papasmurf, even though he's literally never mentioned in the Steele Dossier.

Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn and Corey Lewandowski are all listed in the Steele Dossier, but not George Papadopoulos. He's not mentioned even a single time, and yet we're supposed to believe that he was the linchpin tying the whole thing together.

 

[Ghostse]

I don't even know what else to say about this, this is just incredible. They're seriously dusting him off to have him campaign around for the midterms even though all that he ever did was cost his party elections. The guy's endorsement was a political Kiss of Death, and they're going to shove him out on stage and spout all of this buzzword nonsense just to keep far-Left Regressives riled up.

This would be like dusting off George Bush to campaign for the GOP in 2010. This is an astoundingly terrible plan.

"Fluzarks are bad. How hard can that be, saying Fluzarks are bad?"
"What the hell is a Fluzark?"
"Racist."

the problem isn't saying Socialist are bad. The problem is the left seems to keep changing the definition so that everyone who isn't currently on their side is a Nazi.
"How hard can that be, giving a concrete definition to 'Nazi'".

Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn and Corey Lewandowski are all listed in the Steele Dossier, but not George Papadopoulos. He's not mentioned even a single time, and yet we're supposed to believe that he was the linchpin tying the whole thing together.

Well see that's the proof innit? Obviuosly Papadopoulos is so crafty & in control, he made sure he couldn't be linked to Russia, not even by the investigator hired by the DNC to dig for dirt on their opponent that they could then leak to the FBI so they can get one step below entrapment by bugging all their communications, waiting for a crime to be committed.

Of course they are. See here’s the Dems huge problem. The one the Media won’t talk about. Trump has surprisingly high approval among Black Men. Possibly nearing 30%. That doesn’t seem like much until you look at the near total capture of Black voters by the Dems for generations. Losing even 20% of the Black vote would make them at best a regional party. So they are dusting off Obama in the hopes of solidifying their captive base. I’m not sure it will work. While Black women largely live Obama, Black Men have some resentful undercurrents. Their lives largely got worse under Obama. Whereas Trump is experiencing the lowest Black ?Unemployment numbers in over a century.

And most people are smart enough to realize that the economic turnaround comes from lower taxes and vastly reduced regulation. Contrary to what the media would have you believe, people are by and large not idiots.

Trump has done more for blacks than Obama ever did by scaring the illegals back to mexico. Lower class people, who are disproportionately black, that actually want to work and not just smoke weed and suck at the gubmint teat aren't competing with under the table immigrants for jobs anymore. And ones who don't want to work can't vote because they are likely felons. This is why Dems are so gung-ho to allow felon voting, denying people with felonies the vote hurts their numbers.

A side effect of this is once someone starts getting above mop-pusher levels of employment, they start looking at how much money is going to taxes to pay for the loud, weed smoking layabout wandering around the hood, and begin to question that life of voting D.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Ezra Klein has a retarded article that spergs about Obama, Bem Shapiro and Trump.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/po...-ben-shapiro-speech?__twitter_impression=true

In his speech Friday, Barack Obama offered a succinct explanation for the rise of Donald Trump.

Trump, he said, is a “symptom, not the cause,” of our political moment. The real drivers are “a smaller, more connected world where demographic shifts and the wind of change have scrambled not only traditional economic arrangements but our social arrangements and our religious commitments and our civic institutions.”

Amid all this, Obama framed Trump as more opportunist than catalyst. “He’s just capitalizing on resentments that politicians have been fanning for years, a fear and anger that’s rooted in our past but it’s also born out of the enormous upheavals that have taken place.”

The right reacted to this with outrage, but also with an alternative explanation, one even simpler than Obama’s. Conservative pundit Ben Shapiro put it most succinctly.

You see this on the right a lot, and I’ve come to think it the most revealing argument in conservative politics right now. It shows how desperate conservatives are to absolve their movement of responsibility for Trump, but it’s also, in an important sense, true — it’s just a truth the right (and sometimes the left) refuses to follow to its obvious conclusions.

Let’s state the obvious, and state it neutrally: A critical mass of Republican voters responded to the eight years of Obama’s presidency by turning to Trump. The question is why.

Obama’s answer blames demographic and technological shifts that scrambled our economic, social, religious, and civic institutions. Shapiro’s blames an emotional reaction to to the first black president.

These answers omit the information the other includes. Obama left himself out of his explanation. Shapiro left everything except Obama out of his tweet. But combine them and you get something convincing: Donald Trump capitalized on fears triggered by demographic, technological, economic, social, religious, and civic change, and nothing represented or activated those fears as powerfully as Obama himself.

Obama really did activate voters — their hopes, but also their fears
There are reams of evidence supporting this explanation, and I run through much of it in my piece “White Threat in a Browning America.” Obama’s presidency was inextricable from the massive demographic change that made it possible, and that continues to reshape American life and politics. But it wasn’t just demographic change that Obama represented. Obama, though a Christian himself, led an increasingly secular coalition, and was othered as a secret Muslim in the minds of many conservatives. Similarly, perceptions of economic change were filtered through broader views about Obama and the direction of the country: the political scientist Michael Tesler found that the most racially resentful Americans were the most economically pessimistic before the 2016 election and the most economically optimistic after it.

Obama, notably, spoke about race less than past presidents. But Obama himself was a symbol of a changing America, of white America’s loss of power, of the fact that the country was changing and new groups were gaining power. That perception wasn’t incorrect: In his 2012 reelection campaign, Obama won merely 39 percent of the white vote — a smaller share than Michael Dukakis had commanded in 1988. That is to say, a few decades ago, the multiracial Obama coalition couldn’t drive American politics; by 2012, it could.

For all Shapiro’s focus on Obama’s “lecturing,” the reality is that the right experienced Obama less through listening to his full speeches and more through hearing his presidency refracted through Fox News and conservative talk radio. And in those spaces, Obama’s presidency was framed in the most threatening possible terms. In 2009, Rush Limbaugh, whom Shapiro has honored as “one of the founders of the modern conservative movement,” told his millions of listeners:

How do you get promoted in a Barack Obama administration? By hating white people, or even saying you do, or that they’re not good, or whatever. Make white people the new oppressed minority, and they are going along with it, because they’re shutting up. They’re moving to the back of the bus. They’re saying I can’t use that drinking fountain, okay. I can’t use that restroom, okay. That’s the modern day Republican Party, the equivalent of the Old South, the new oppressed minority.
On its face, this is laughable. But Limbaugh’s audience wasn’t laughing. They were listening.

And it wasn’t just politics they were, and are, reacting to. The changes that led to Obama’s presidency are everywhere in our culture. We live in an America where television programs, commercials, and movies are trying to represent a browner country; where Black Panther is a celebrated cultural event and #OscarsSoWhite is a nationally known hashtag; where Colin Kaepernick is leading Nike ads and pressing 1 for English is commonplace.

So yes, all of this led to Trump.

Are voters responsible for their own choices?
Where Obama and Shapiro differ sharply in their explanation is in the attribution of blame. Obama blames Trump — and others in the Republican Party and conservative media — for demagogically preying on Americans’ fears and anxieties. Shapiro blames Obama for adopting a lecturing tone that alienated a critical mass of Americans.

Over email, I asked Shapiro to unpack this point for me. “Obama suggested that his political opponents were badly-motivated ignoramuses, routinely ignored the rule of law, and utilized identity politics to divide the country,” he replied. “He savaged McCain and Romney in scurrilous ways. Many in the Republican base felt angered and slighted, and raged at the supposed nice guys in the party who were allegedly too weak to fight back. They supported the most aggressive candidate on the stage.”

Some of this strikes me as, well, strange. John McCain just had Obama speak at his funeral. The idea that the 2008 campaign was uniquely scurrilous is provably wrong. The rest of it is the usual Rorschach test of American politics; I think Obama treated issues of identity with unusual care and caution and, particularly early in his presidency, was unusually willing to believe the best of his political opponents, but I doubt I’ll change any minds on that in this column. Indeed, the deep division over how identity politics was wielded in the Obama era, and who was really acting outside the norms of American politics, strikes me as exactly what you’d expect if you believe this broader story of demographic, political, and cultural upheaval.

More interesting, I think, is the way both Obama and Shapiro implicitly absolve voters of responsibility for the choices they made. Obama’s basic argument is that too much change, too fast, made right-leaning voters susceptible to a demagogue’s charms; Shapiro’s basic argument is that too much liberal provocation, for too long, made right-leaning voters long for a strongman of their own.

The term “white fragility” is overused in politics right now, but it is relevant here: The unwillingness to state the obvious — a critical proportion of Republican primary voters enthusiastically supported the candidate who promised to turn back the demographic clock — might be politically wise, but it’s analytically disastrous. Black voters who supported Louis Farrakhan would never be treated with such delicacy.

Trump, for all his flaws, ran a campaign based on clear positions and aspirations. He promised to build a wall; he said that our country was being weakened by louche, violent, parasitic immigrants; he said Obama was an illegitimate president with a forged birth certificate; he vowed to stop Muslims from traveling to the country; and in every speech, at every turn, he promised to turn back the clock, to make America great again.

That a crucial portion of the Republican electorate agreed with him in all of this is undeniable. What it says about them is often treated as if it is unspeakable — either because to state their beliefs clearly is insulting or because it just makes a bad political situation worse.

Trump did not create these voters. They long predated him — they were present in both Pat Buchanan’s and Ross Perot’s candidacies — but they were homeless in American politics, suppressed by the two parties for reasons of both principle and political expediency.

Trump, with his money, celebrity, and media-savvy, taking advantage of new communication technologies and a weakened Republican Party and riding the rage that grew on the right amid the daily affront of Obama’s presidency, was able to break through the cartel and offer those voters the choice they actually wanted, and in the Republican primary, they took it. (The general election, it should be said, had more complex dynamics, with a lot of voters unhappily choosing Trump over Clinton, which is why I think the primary was the real pivot here.)

So yes, Republican voters enraged by the feeling that they were being lectured by the first black president is a big part of how we got Trump. This idea is popular in some quarters of the right because it’s understood as somehow absolving them of blame for Trump, but it’s just another way of saying that Obama’s presidency — and the broader demographic and cultural changes it both revealed and represented — activated ugly sentiments in the Republican Party, those fears and resentments were amplified by conservative media, and Republican voters turned to the candidate who championed those sentiments most clearly.

Which is all to say Trump’s voters made a rational choice based on their beliefs about, and preferences for, the country they live in. There’s a powerful impulse to absolve them of that choice, to blame it on someone or something else, but doing so obscures the reasons it was made and confuses our attempts to move forward.