Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Judge Dredd]

I'm both impressed and disgusted by this revisionist history

I'm disgusted by their use of "blockchain" to refer to a blacklist.

 

[RockVolnutt]

BTW if anyone cares, I think this is the JA Micheline that wrote that Guardian article.

One on the right.

 

[damian]

BTW if anyone cares, I think this is the JA Micheline that wrote that Guardian article.

One on the right.

Called it:

I gotta hand it to the writer, I barely get through most of the articles talking about CG since they recycle the same crap over and over again. But this one had it all, Trump, Brexit, the usual buzzwords, that ‘Never Enough’ attitude and smug.

I haven’t checked but the writer must be a super WOKE sistah.

 

[Flexo]

That's one of the great lies of it all. They keep claiming that there's this huge audience of women, minorities, trans, and disabled "folx" just waiting for a single game/film/comic that represents them. Yet time and again they never turn up, and there's always some excuse about why.

Or - conversely - the audience for this IS showing up... and it's not near the number they believed. By definition appealing to a minority is not going to have the sales numbers of appealing to a majority.

There's a possible theory with some science to this but I'm still processing it. (with dunbar's number - basically their brains perceive a few hundred fellow travelers as being immense - when a large corporation nowadays needs customers in the tens of thousands.)

 

[Next Task]

Or - conversely - the audience for this IS showing up... and it's not near the number they believed. By definition appealing to a minority is not going to have the sales numbers of appealing to a majority.

I like a theory I saw here somewhere, that people are used to the old method where one letter of support was considered to represent a thousand people who agreed, but didn't bother to write. So every time they get a tweet or a like of agreement, they think that person represents a larger, quiet bloc - not realising that social media means that agreeing or showing support can be done so easily that each person can only count as themselves.

Add to that the fact that clicking your mouse once to support something is much more likely than actually paying any money for it, and in the case of wokeness some of the same people who support your message also support piracy for moral reasons. So the creators think there's this silent majority out there who agree with them, when the count is much closer to the actual engagement with the idea, and putting money in is a much, much smaller fraction.

 

[Flexo]

All this recent talk about Marvel, I think many here would appreciate this history of the time Marvel really, REALLY screwed up, and not only nearly killed themselves, but the comic industry as a whole.

 

[AnOminous]

Or - conversely - the audience for this IS showing up... and it's not near the number they believed. By definition appealing to a minority is not going to have the sales numbers of appealing to a majority.

I'm not sure what's hard to grasp about this. They have a whole history of blockbusters if logic isn't their strong suit, so they can just look at them and notice they appeal to a mass audience. I mean what genius is pitching "hey, instead of appealing to these dumb mass audiences, let's think outside the box. . .office. . .and instead let's appeal to some extremely tiny minority! Hey why aren't we making money?"

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

Trademarks are eternal so long as they are used and defended.

Which is the reason why Marvel had intermittently revived Captain Marvel and why so many people have cared the mantle before Carol. It doesn't matter if the Captain Marvel comics are shit and the company assassinated the character. They've got to hold or else Warner Media will pounce onto it to use on the Captain Marvel people actually care about and I am reasonably that is the main impetus behind the film.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Or - conversely - the audience for this IS showing up... and it's not near the number they believed. By definition appealing to a minority is not going to have the sales numbers of appealing to a majority.

There's a possible theory with some science to this but I'm still processing it. (with dunbar's number - basically their brains perceive a few hundred fellow travelers as being immense - when a large corporation nowadays needs customers in the tens of thousands.)

This is a lot of it. In the same way that as you watch these various "culture war" battles being waged from Comicsgate to Gamergate to Anime to Tabletop games to whatever else, you start to notice that the rabid cultural crusaders pushing these ever more extreme leftist progressive pink haired transexual agendas are the same few people across all of them. I think the actual natural audience for this stuff, the people crying out for it and demanding it. That we can only have things there way now. Is about 5000 tops. And that's being generous. But they gain an amplified voice both from their shrieking in the media and from their self insertion into the production chain. At this point people that have never actually bought or paid for comics are making comics and making the decisions regarding what other long time comic buyers are willing to buy and pay for. And the results are predictable.

Which is the reason why Marvel had intermittently revived Captain Marvel and why so many people have cared the mantle before Carol. It doesn't matter if the Captain Marvel comics are shit and the company assassinated the character. They've got to hold or else Warner Media will pounce onto it to use on the Captain Marvel people actually care about and I am reasonably that is the main impetus behind the film.

Well yes, but they don't have to keep putting out a solo book to do that. They just have to keep the name in continuous use. She was always fine as an Avenger. It's the solo books that really suck.

 

[damian]

Another Alterna Comics article by CBR:
Alterna Comics Publisher Issues Statement About Social Media Policy
9 hours ago by CBR Admin Team Comment (4)

Recently CBR published a report on allegations made by a freelance letterer against Alterna Comics and publisher Peter Simeti. Simeti approached CBR in response to the report, disputing the claims. In order to ensure both sides of the story are told, we are publishing Simeti’s official response below:

“Our social media policy strives to create a welcoming environment for both our readers and our creators. Social media is a powerful tool for promotion and outreach and that’s exactly how I encourage our creators to use it. Our policy allows creators to block or mute individually, but not indiscriminately. Should our creators experience harassment or threats of any kind while they are under contract with us, we’ll do everything within our power to help them.

To my knowledge, in our entire history, no one under contract at Alterna has ever been harassed or threatened and if they were, I certainly was never made aware of any such occurrences. When I received messages from twelve readers that Micah was blocking them without ever interacting with them, I approached project manager Dave Swartz about the situation and briefed him on the fact that Micah may be using a block list to block potentially thousands of people he’d never interacted with. When Dave approached Micah about this, he found this was in fact the truth. In order to avoid any further unwanted drama on the situation, I offered a solution to not include Micah on twitter promotions of the title and to not tag his twitter handle. He would still remain on the book, of course and would still have received cover credit and interior credit on the book.

At that point, I was told by Dave that Micah understood that the book would most likely be affected by the potential drama of having him associated with it, as we would most likely come across more potential readers that had been blocked by him. By utilizing this block list to “avoid harassment” for himself, Micah’s block list opened up potential harassment for his creative team and myself, as we would be forced to answer questions about Micah’s choice to block people who he never interacted with in the first place. Because of this, I was told that Micah stepped down as letterer and Dave had then hired another letterer to re-letter the entire series.

I do not hire or fire freelancers at Alterna. I did not push for the firing of Micah, nor did I threaten the cancellation of the book, as claimed by Micah in his series of tweets. I have the necessary evidence that counters his claims and I hope that in good faith, Micah does the right thing here.”​

And Peter's a target again, a round of applause to CBR for reigniting the fire:

Lots of familiar faces, including Matt from the CBR forums:

Ramon Villalobos of Border Town and America fame:

Our Boi Black Christmas:

And of course, Richard "I'm 4 years late on my kickstarter" Pace:

 

[RockVolnutt]

Just block everyone and get to the end of it. No mean words will ever come to you. Try to rationally explain why this is not the best solution for what they want.

 

[damian]

Just block everyone and get to the end of it. No mean words will ever come to you. Try to rationally explain why this is not the best solution for what they want.

At this point they should hire Steve Shives to handle their social media.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

Or - conversely - the audience for this IS showing up... and it's not near the number they believed. By definition appealing to a minority is not going to have the sales numbers of appealing to a majority.

There's a possible theory with some science to this but I'm still processing it. (with dunbar's number - basically their brains perceive a few hundred fellow travelers as being immense - when a large corporation nowadays needs customers in the tens of thousands.)

I'm just going to post one of the few funny jokes I have found of the Nustalgia Critic Era:

Amazingly, like a broken clock Doug gets it right. It's people who take a look at their customer base and then go "But the chart says..."

A great example of this is the start of World War Weeb (sick of using -gate on everything by now, we need to change it up a bit) with the High Guardian Spice controversy which has veteran dangerhair Kate Leth writing it, fresh from her "fixing comics" campaign. A chart says that they're not appealing to enough minorities and what have you and this justifies their hackneyed attempts at Diversity.

Hilariously there's a poll on the forums where the vote is split 50% wypipo and 50% combined of all other minorities, meaning it's probably one of the few communities out there that's actually more diverse than the majority of the countries users are from.

Nobody fucking wants the high handed white nu-man's burden, which seems to be these screeching weirdos demanding to speak for all PoC and women or pushing for "representation" in stuff they're either already in, or just want more of. People buy and consume creative media in the main for escapism purposes, they do not do it to be lectured to about why their miserable day to day lives should become even worse because of the circumstances of their birth.

These "creators" are nothing of the sort. If your aim isn't to provide escapism or pleasure to your audience then you shouldn't be fucking making things in the first place.

It's a bit like how the UK government changed its attitudes to funding UK film, focusing instead on exploiting the UK as a filming location rather than making yet more arthouse drek. As a result of this the treasury makes a crap ton of money off of films that people actually want to fucking watch instead of the hideous arthouse Northern "miseryporn" films that seemed to be the thing every shit UK "director" was making back in the 90s and right up to the mid 2000's. Those films still exist (sadly) but they're a lot harder to get cash for to shoot these days and its pushed these depressive "creatives" out to the fringe where they rightly belong.

Preachy writers/creatives are going to go the way of the dodo by sheer weight of the market. We're already seeing it in the various industries it has effected. It's taken a while but the group of crazies that have marched through the various "cultural industries" have failed every time and been pushed increasingly to more and more fringe industries. Their friendly media can claim victory as often as it likes, but every time someone has sold something purely on the basis of them trying to "represent more PoC" or "diverse casting" it has failed. Miserably.

 

[AJ 447]

Lauren Atencio / Lauren Cooper / Renfamous / adlauren

DOB: February 13, 1988
5613 Val Verde St
Houston, TX 77057
Phone: 713-557-7235
Email: Renfamous@gmail.com, Latencio0213@gmail.com

She is an accountant by trade, and has posted on twitter that she no longer works at Briggs & Veselka, although she still seemed to be working there last spring. Where's she working now? Not sure yet, but she definitely seems to be using CG as her way to get friendly with comics/entertainment people and break into that sphere. And CG people have certainly been happy to help her. Oh yeah, she also knits stupid shit at her Etsy shop called Stitchfamous (archive), although I doubt she makes much money from that.

She's married, her husband's name is William Cooper (archive). Here's her wedding album, if you care. (archive)

Spoiler: Accounts

https://twitter.com/renfamous (archive)
https://www.facebook.com/laurenatencio (archive)
http://renfamous.tumblr.com/ (archive)
https://www.instagram.com/renfamous/
https://www.reddit.com/user/Renfamous/ (archive)
https://www.reddit.com/user/adlauren (archive)
https://imgur.com/user/renfamous (archive)
https://imgur.com/user/adlauren (archive)
https://www.etsy.com/ca/people/adlauren (archive)
https://plus.google.com/113575301326725892887 (archive)
https://steamcommunity.com/id/renfamous (archive)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHHQC9lU1P9pP_-4JMzfOgg/featured (archive)
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/profile/Renfamous
https://pinnypals.com/pals/Renfamous (archive)
https://foursquare.com/adlauren (archive)
http://en.gravatar.com/adlauren (archive)
https://www.cookiebrigade.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5790 (archive)
http://eyrewoodadventures.com/author/ren/ (archive)
https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/renfamous (archive)
https://www.honeyfund.com/wedding/DinoWeddingHTX (archive)
https://www.amazon.com/wedding/laur...l-science-october-2017/registry/2I1YK8OQKC8XV (archive)
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/st...st.jsp?eventType=Wedding&registryId=544706618
https://www.williams-sonoma.com/registry/xhq2vp9n8m/registry-list.html

Oh, and if you were wondering why her Instagram is locked down, it's because apparently her name was on it, and people like this idiot (archive) noticed, ran down all the easily found shit, and started threatening to doxxxx her on twitter.

Acting like an internet tough guy because you spent two minutes on Google, it's lucky she didn't DFE because of this prick. There's no way of knowing if she did delete anything, I have my suspicions that her linkedin page got nuked because of this. You can search for it, but it's a dead link now. Next time, just drop the dox or shut the fuck up and kill yourself, faggot.

Edit: I'm an asshole and forgot to thank @neural for his help with this.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Just block everyone and get to the end of it. No mean words will ever come to you. Try to rationally explain why this is not the best solution for what they want.

Better yet, ban the social justice types from social media.
Think about it, they will be safe from harassment and death threats that they claim they get constantly, and the majority of the user base can be happy once they're gone.

 

[Detrogen]

I can’t tell by Ren’s pictures whether she’s doing a bit or if she’s really that bad at makeup. Either way, why would you want that to be your face to the world?

 

[damian]

Lauren Atencio / Lauren Cooper / Renfamous / adlauren
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DOB: February 13, 1988
5613 Val Verde St
Houston, TX 77057
Phone: 713-557-7235
Email: Latencio0213@gmail.com
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She is an accountant by trade, and has posted on twitter that she no longer works at Briggs & Veselka, although she still seemed to be working there last spring. Where's she working now? Not sure yet, but she definitely seems to be using CG as her way to get friendly with comics/entertainment people and break into that sphere. And CG people have certainly been happy to help her. Oh yeah, she also knits stupid shit at her Etsy shop called Stitchfamous (archive), although I doubt she makes much money from that.
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She's married, her husband's name is William Cooper (archive). Here's her wedding album, if you care. (archive)
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Spoiler: Accounts

https://twitter.com/renfamous (archive)
https://www.facebook.com/laurenatencio (archive)
http://renfamous.tumblr.com/ (archive)
https://www.instagram.com/renfamous/
https://www.reddit.com/user/Renfamous/ (archive)
https://www.reddit.com/user/adlauren (archive)
https://imgur.com/user/renfamous (archive)
https://imgur.com/user/adlauren (archive)
https://www.etsy.com/ca/people/adlauren (archive)
https://plus.google.com/113575301326725892887 (archive)
https://steamcommunity.com/id/renfamous (archive)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHHQC9lU1P9pP_-4JMzfOgg/featured (archive)
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/profile/Renfamous
https://pinnypals.com/pals/Renfamous (archive)
https://foursquare.com/adlauren (archive)
http://en.gravatar.com/adlauren (archive)
https://www.cookiebrigade.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5790 (archive)
http://eyrewoodadventures.com/author/ren/ (archive)
https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/renfamous (archive)
https://www.honeyfund.com/wedding/DinoWeddingHTX (archive)
https://www.amazon.com/wedding/laur...l-science-october-2017/registry/2I1YK8OQKC8XV (archive)
https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/st...st.jsp?eventType=Wedding&registryId=544706618
https://www.williams-sonoma.com/registry/xhq2vp9n8m/registry-list.html

Oh, and if you were wondering why her Instagram is locked down, it's because apparently her name was on it, and people like this idiot (archive) noticed, ran down all the easily found shit, and started threatening to doxxxx her on twitter.
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Acting like an internet tough guy because you spent two minutes on Google, it's lucky she didn't DFE because of this prick. There's no way of knowing if she did delete anything, I have my suspicions that her linkedin page got nuked because of this. You can search for it, but it's a dead link now. Next time, just drop the dox or shut the fuck up and kill yourself, faggot.

The real HQ of KKKomixHate doxxes yet another (Social) Justice League Warrior.

How long till they claim Comicsgate doxxed them?

I’m betting not that long.

 

[Done]

but she definitely seems to be using CG as her way to get friendly with comics/entertainment people and break into that sphere.

THIS.

So many of those people are only in it to get friendly with entertainment people and get them to owe them favors, I honestly don't know why she needs to go through that drama, considering that not only she had a job that pays far more than comics writing ever would, but also a stable relationship/home life in a good house (aka ＰＲＩＶＩＬＥＧＥ).

I can’t tell by Ren’s pictures whether she’s doing a bit or if she’s really that bad at makeup. Either way, why would you want that to be your face to the world?

She strikes me as a normie who's bored and needs something more in life (Lauren here's a hint: Children, that's what normies do), and that, in addition to getting friendly with creators is what drives her to enter this particular autism vortex.

Also, she actually scrubbed quite a bit before we looked into her, likely because of that tard who tried to be threatening like some comics supervillain.

 

[damian]

(Lauren here's a hint: Children, that's what normies do)

And no Lauren, pets are not children.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Guys the only blessing of these SJW'S is that they DON'T have children.

Presuming that their having kids would somehow make them more reasonable is like assuming that apologizing to them will make them more forgiving.