Disaster Article 13 has passed : EU - Eurocucks - your memes have no home here. All amendments rejected.

Article 13 approved by European Parliament by 438 votes to 226
September 12, 2018







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MEPs have voted to pass the much-discussed Article 13 of the European Copyright Directive. Of the 751 politicians voting on the directive today in Strasbourg, 438 voted in favour, 226 against and 39 abstained.


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Sylvie Guillaume

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Soulagement après le vote sur la directive #droitdauteur. L'Europe de la diversité culturelle renforcée, une presse indépendante et la liberté d'expression préservées après le vote du rapport @AxelVossMdEP. Les négociations vont pouvoir enfin débuter avec le Conseil.

9:02 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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This section of the proposed legislation would make internet platforms liable for copyrighted content uploaded by their users:

“Article 13 creates an obligation on information society service providers storing and giving access to large amounts of works and other subject-matter uploaded by their users to take appropriate and proportionate measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with rightholders and to prevent the availability on their services of content identified by rightholders in cooperation with the service providers”

This would remove the ‘safe harbours’ that have been a long-term bugbear for music rightsholders, who see them as responsible for the ‘value gap’ between the music royalties paid by platforms like YouTube, and those that do not benefit from safe harbours, like Spotify and Apple Music.

Critics of Article 13 argue that it would damage key principles of free expression online by forcing platforms to filter anything that might be copyrighted content, while also damaging the chances of small internet startups to compete with giants like Google/YouTube, who can afford to spend tens of millions of dollars building tools like the latter’s ContentID to comply with the legislation.

The news is already being celebrated by music rightsholders and their representative bodies, but will come as a blow to the technology companies and activists who had been campaigning against the proposal.

Independent body Impala was one of the first to hail the news, describing it as a “great result for creators”. Boss Helen Smith had published an opinion piece earlier this week defending the proposed legislation. “Nobody in our community is suggesting ‘tearing down the internet.’ What we are asking lawmakers to do is to make sure that it works for everyone,” she wrote.




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MEP @AxelVossMdEP Proposal wins the vote, great result for creators #EuropeforCreators

8:59 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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Paul Pacifico, boss of UK independent body AIM, hailed the vote as “a great day for music and culture in Europe” in a tweet shortly after the vote. He also published an opinion piece this week, criticising the lobbying tactics of companies and organisations who had opposed Article 13.




Paul Pacifico

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A great day for culture and music in #europe as the #copyrightdirective is adopted by @Europarl_EN including #article13 - thank you #MEPs from all parties for your energetic and highly engaged approach to this very sensitive and important legislation.

9:06 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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Google provided this statement to Music Ally following the vote. “People want access to quality news and creative content online,” said a spokesperson. “We’ve always said that more innovation and collaboration are the best way to achieve a sustainable future for the European news and creative sectors, and we’re committed to continued close partnership with these industries.”

[Also passed today was Article 11, which focuses more on the news side of things.)

MEP Julia Reda, who had been one of the prominent critics of the proposals, summarised the fears in a tweet posted after the vote was carried.


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Julia Reda

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Article 13 vote: The European Parliament endorses #uploadfilters for all but the smallest sites and apps. Anything you want to publish will need to first be approved by these filters, perfectly legal content like parodies & memes will be caught in the crosshairs #SaveYourInternet

8:57 PM - Sep 12, 2018


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We’ll be covering reactions to the news in the coming hours here, so check back on this story regularly for updates.
https://musically.com/2018/09/12/article-13-approved-by-european-parliament-by-438-votes-to-226/

EU approves controversial internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ and ‘upload filter’
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Key provisions were amended to reduce potential harm, but critics say vote is ‘catastrophic’
By James Vincent@jjvincent Sep 12, 2018, 7:12am EDTSHARE
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The European Parliament has voted on changes to the Copyright Directive, a piece of legislation intended to update copyright for the internet age. In a session this morning, MEPs approved amended versions of the directive’s most controversial provisions: Articles 11 and 13, dubbed by critics as the “link tax” and “upload filter.”

Article 11 is intended to give publishers and newspapers a way to make money when companies like Google link to their stories, while Article 13 requires platforms like YouTube and Facebook to scan uploaded content to stop the unlicensed sharing of copyrighted material. Critics say these two provisions pose a dire threat to the free flow of information online, and will be open to abuse by copyright trolls and censors.

READ MORE: EU COPYRIGHT DIRECTIVE: WHAT’S AT STAKE
Defenders of the Copyright Directive and its controversial clauses say this is an unfair characterization. They point to existing laws and newly-introduced amendments that will block the worst excesses of this legislation (like, for example, a law that excuses parodies and memes from copyright claims). They say that the campaign against the directive has been funded by US tech giants eager to retain their control over the web’s platforms.

In remarks following the vote in Parliament this morning, MEP Axel Voss, who has led the charge on introducing Articles 11 and 13 thanked his fellow politicians “for the job we have done together.” “This is a good sign for the creative industries in Europe,” said Voss.

Opposing MEPs like Julia Reda of the Pirate Party described the outcome as “catastrophic.”

It’s important to note that this is far from the end of the story for the Copyright Directive and its impact on the web. The legislation approved today still faces a final vote in the European Parliament in January (where it’s possible, though very unlikely, it will be rejected). After that, individual EU member states will still get to choose how to put the directive in law. In other words, each country will be able to interpret the directive as they see fit.

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https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/12/17849868/eu-internet-copyright-reform-article-11-13-approved

 
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Hope Eurocucks like Muslim cock because before the police just refused to investigate now you can't even complain about it.

his is a fucking nightmare. Amerifats might want to stop laughing so hard at this

No fuck you, We're not altering shit, as posted above Eurocucks will just be banned rather than comply.
 
I am becoming rapidly convinced that only politicians under the age of 35-40 should be allowed to vote on internet laws.

Not sure if that helps or age has anything to do with it to be honest, judging at this autistic tirefire of a thread there are many people which are way under 35 who also don't understand how anything works or what this law even means.

I also think the bigger problem with these politicians is the typical middle/upper management attitude where they don't need to get anything explained because they already know everything. It's the kind of people you tend to find in these positions. Add to that that the EU Parliament is full of people the member governments wanted to get rid of for various reasons and yeah. My personal guess is that this will get crippled/butchered on the country level into something unrecognizable. Like I said earlier, I'm more concerned at the kind of legal framework this puts in place. Also people who think the tech firms will stand proudly against it - lol. They'd sell your soul for a nickel. They have, in some cases.
 
Does nearly every damn nation in the EU have to approve of these measures though, and then hash out whatever they will actually say is kosher? For the most part it seems like only France, the UK and Spain, and the EPP as a whole (aside from a few members) want to implement this.

Uhm, I dunno. All I know is even when the people believe they have a say, they don't. Let alone when there's some shadowy goings on in the EU parliament.
 
It's a good day to be in the U.S.A.
Don't the politicians in the EU realize that almost all of the major tech firms on the internet are US based? All Silicon Valley has to do is cut off their services 100% from the EU and just sit back and watch as they scramble to undo article 13 or face their own people calling for the guillotine.
When Google itself is willing to genuflect towards China for a few shekels, I'm pretty sure that they'll work with the EU for some more.

For a while, at least.
 
Calm your tits boys, they can only enforce this after another vote in the spring of next year, we don't have to all move to New Zealand just yet. I know you Amerimutts like to indulge every opportunity to celebrate our suffering in times like these but this is a bit premature. Not sure if I have a right to complain though, I also laugh at the US every time there is a mass shooting.
 
I don't see the US government obeying these directives from Brussels. And while Big Tech might be persona non grata with the current administration atm, I see a possibility for Congress to pass legislation to shield them from EU punishments. Depending on how hard Brussels decides to push this, we may see an outright clash with threats of and implementation of sanctions and counter regulations.

Washington DC would win of course. The moment individual companies start facing the threat of being frozen out of the US they will cave. The EU is nowhere near coordinated or unified enough to get into a dick measuring contest with America. Their only recourse would be to pull a China and have an internet independent of the rest of the worlds.
 
Please let God Emperor tell them how they're a bunch of cucks for doing this. I really don't see how the EU ordering removal of something hosted in the US would work, especially since the EU has no jurisdiction over here.

If the EU keeps going down this way, enjoy the Sharia cock, Europe.
 
I don't see the US government obeying these directives from Brussels. And while Big Tech might be persona non grata with the current administration atm, I see a possibility for Congress to pass legislation to shield them from EU punishments. Depending on how hard Brussels decides to push this, we may see an outright clash with threats of and implementation of sanctions and counter regulations.

Washington DC would win of course. The moment individual companies start facing the threat of being frozen out of the US they will cave. The EU is nowhere near coordinated or unified enough to get into a dick measuring contest with America. Their only recourse would be to pull a China and have an internet independent of the rest of the worlds.
If that does happen, then it'll be all for naught because people would begin comparing them to China, and the EU wouldn't want those comparisons leading them to either crack down harder, or realize "Oh shit, they're really pissed, let's dial it back before they actively try to kill us".

Regardless, I don't see this lasting for too long once it's implemented. The EU is already hated by everyone, and this is just asking for a riot to happen outside their Brussels HQ.
 
Depending on how this plays out I might consider upping sticks from the UK (you know May and Corbin are salivating over this for simmilar reasons). If this shit does get imported here post Brexit (an that's a big IF considering the 1922 commity rumblings in the last 24 hours), I with others will honestly say bye and fuck off taking our business elseware.

also like that this will drive more software jobs to the US.

SAP the biggest Software provider in the EU is basically just based here with 1000 - 2000 staff at any time the bulk of the staff about 5 - 10k are based in India.

GDPR already protects me from reading the latimes.com, I wonder what this will protect me from?

The GDPR is a fucking mess, It sounds good and has real teath but it doesn't make any distinction's of who is really breached i.e. If a company I use or logistics is breached through no fault of mine I can still be held responsible, and a MAJOR breach can be having a postal address and name in a .pst on a file share from someone who worked for you 6 years ago (an in the uk you have to keep certain records for a minimum of 7 years).


This passed in the exact same session where the decided to sancton Hungary for refusing to take migrants. This isn't about piracy or memes, it's 100% an attempt to silence criticism of Islam and migrants.

Orban has his issues but he will not back down over this, if they where slightly better off I could see them doing a Brexit but essentially starting from day 1.
 
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Jokes aside, they have just redacted a long draft of exceptions, which include parodies (YouTube) and fair use (Wikipedia) so the actual impacts of the new law designs on the web will be minimal.
That, and the actual impossibility to enforce all the regulations will make the issue very moot.
Music and movie industry will be able to bring random youtubers and other people to court with those laws, however.

So in other words it might possibly be nowhere near as bad as people are making it out to be?
 
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