Law Justice Brett Kavanaugh Megathread - Megathread for Brett Kavanaugh, US Supreme Court Justice

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/trump-picks-brett-kavanaugh-for-supreme-court.html

President Donald Trump has picked Brett Kavanaugh, a federal appeals court judge with extensive legal credentials and a lengthy political record, to succeed Justice Anthony M. Kennedy on the Supreme Court, NBC News reported.

Kavanaugh, 53, is an ideological conservative who is expected to push the court to the right on a number of issues including business regulation and national security. The favorite of White House Counsel Donald McGahn, Kavanaugh is also considered a safer pick than some of the more partisan choices who were on the president’s shortlist.

A graduate of Yale Law School who serves on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, Kavanaugh has the traditional trappings of a presidential nominee to the high court.


If confirmed, the appellate judge would become the second young, conservative jurist Trump has put on the top U.S. court during his first term. Kavanaugh's confirmation would give the president an even bigger role in shaping U.S. policy for decades to come. The potential to morph the federal judiciary led many conservatives to support Trump in 2016, and he has not disappointed so far with the confirmation of conservative Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and numerous federal judges.

At times, he has diverged from the Republican party’s ideological line on important cases that have come before him, including on the Affordable Care Act, the 2010 health care law which Kavanaugh has declined to strike down on a number of occasions in which it has come before him.

Anti-abortion groups quietly lobbied against Kavanaugh, pushing instead for another jurist on Trump’s shortlist, 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Amy Coney Barrett, ABC News reported in the run-up to Trump’s announcement.

Kavanaugh received his current appointment in 2006 after five years in the George W. Bush administration, where he served in a number of roles including staff secretary to the president. He has been criticized for his attachment to Bush, as well as his involvement in a number of high-profile legal cases.

For instance, Kavanaugh led the investigation into the death of Bill Clinton’s Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, and assisted in Kenneth Starr’s 1998 report outlining the case for Clinton’s impeachment.

Democrats criticized Kavanaugh’s political roles during his 2006 confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“Your experience has been most notable, not so much for your blue chip credentials, but for the undeniably political nature of so many of your assignments,” Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said at the time.

“From the notorious Starr report, to the Florida recount, to the President’s secrecy and privilege claims, to post-9/11 legislative battles including the Victims Compensation Fund, to ideological judicial nomination fights, if there has been a partisan political fight that needed a very bright legal foot soldier in the last decade, Brett Kavanaugh was probably there,” Schumer said.

Kavanaugh's work on the Starr report has been scrutinized by Republicans who have said it could pose trouble for the president as he negotiates with special counsel Robert Mueller over the terms of a possible interview related to Mueller's Russia probe. The 1998 document found that Clinton's multiple refusals to testify to a grand jury in connection with Starr's investigation were grounds for impeachment.

In later years, Kavanaugh said that Clinton should not have had to face down an investigation during his presidency. He has said the indictment of a president would not serve the public interest.

Like Trump's first nominee to the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch, Kavanaugh clerked for Kennedy. If he is confirmed, it will mark the first time ever that a current or former Supreme Court justice has two former clerks become justices, according to an article by Adam Feldman, who writes a blog about the Supreme Court.

Kavanaugh teaches courses on the separation of powers, the Supreme Court, and national security at Harvard Law School and Yale Law School, and does charitable work at St. Maria’s Meals program at Catholic Charities in Washington, D.C., according to his official biography.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ett-kavanaugh-nomination-by-a-28-point-margin

After a blistering confirmation battle, Justice Brett Kavanaugh will take his seat for oral arguments on the U.S. Supreme Court with a skeptical public, a majority of which opposed his nomination. However, Democrats may not be able to exploit this fact in the upcoming elections as much as they hope, because the independent voters overwhelmingly disapprove of their own handling of the nomination by a 28-point margin, a new CNN/SSRS poll finds.

Overall, just 41 percent of those polled said they wanted to see Kavanaugh confirmed, compared to 51 percent who said they opposed his confirmation. In previous CNN polls dating back to Robert Bork in 1987, no nominee has been more deeply underwater.

What's interesting, however, is even though Democrats on the surface would seem to have public opinion on their side, just 36 percent approved of how they handled the nomination, compared to 56 percent who disapproved. (Republicans were at 55 percent disapproval and 35 percent approval). A further breakdown finds that 58 percent of independents disapproved of the way the Democrats handled the nomination — compared to 30 percent who approved. (Independents also disapproved of Republicans handling of the matter, but by a narrower 53 percent to 32 percent margin).

Many people have strong opinions on the way the Kavanaugh nomination will play out in November and who it will benefit. The conventional wisdom is that it will help Democrats in the House, where there are a number of vulnerable Republicans in suburban districts where losses among educated women could be devastating, and that it will help Republicans in the Senate, where the tossup races are in red states where Trump and Kavanaugh are more popular.

That said, it's clear that the nomination energized both sides, and that the tactics pursued by the parties turned off independent voters in a way that makes it much harder to predict how this will end up affecting election outcomes.
 
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As a Dem who, like a great many Dems, would personally burn the party's leadership at the stake given half a chance, I have to say: Watching Kamala Harris absolutely lose her fucking shit over this was one of the funniest goddamned things I've seen in months. Even in Dem circles, general consensus is that the Kavanaugh hearings were a crock of shit and that the Dems involved in the committee looked like absolute morons, which is quite an accomplishment considering the fact that this was a Supreme Court appointment.

The quite literal "I'LL TAKE MY BALL AND NOT PLAY" pulled by Harris was fucking amazing to watch. Never in my life have I witnessed such a ridiculous, over-the-top, unprofessional, petulent, spiteful burst of outright bullshit from someone who is supposed to be an elected official, and I am someone who can remember a certain Senator screaming at a political rival to fuck themselves on the House floor.

Every single time I think that the current batch of establishment Dems cannot, possibly, get any more fucking insane, Kamala Harris asks us to hold her beer. Jesus. And these people wonder why the Dems are ditching the party in fucking droves.

The whole thing reeks of the Harry Reid/Chuckles Schumer school of politics. Fight every single battle as nasty as possible, give no quarter, reach no compromise, no matter the long term consequences. It looks great to the Liberal press. But this situation is just a compounding of long lasting errors on the Dems part.

- Schumer really really fucked up with Gorsuch. He fucked up big, and he fucked up knowingly. Just to appease his most unhinged progressives. There was no reason to fight Gorsuch. It was a status quo appointment. The War has already been lost. They didn’t have the Senate, when Garland was nominated and their own Joe Biden/Harry Reid rule was used against them. As they say elections have consequences. So Schumer fought tooth and nail, giving McConnell the excuse to nuke the filibuster at a moment when he had sufficient Senate unity to do so. If Schumer had been reasonable and strategic back then, he would still have the filibuster now. And McConnel would have never gotten removing it through Flake, etc. So Schumer by being a short sited ass, and playing to media instead of playing leadership, sacrificed the one tool he had pointlessly.

- The Kavanaugh fiasco may, just may, score some political points for Dems in November. Although I suspect that those will be limited to places they already rule. The Circus has pissed off and offended a great many others. But Chuckles was never going to have the ability to block Kavanaugh. And there is no mathematical model where the Dems take the Senate before 2020. So either Kavanaugh or someone like him is seated. The 2 Dem Senators from California just spent the day screaming Rapist at a distinguished US Circuit Court Judge Who will likely sit on the court. Over a 35 year old fuzzy drunken high school claim. Judges are not as above things as they claim. If you attack a Judge in this regard every other Judge will beat you down should you come before them. Directly attacking a Judges character in this way, with no compelling or corroborating evidences a guarantee to piss off all of the Federal Circuit and most of the current SCOTUS Justices. California May have just effectively lost in Federal Court for the next 20 years. Once again, you don’t sandbag a sitting Judge like this and not expect blowback from the Judiciary. And most Dem approaches to things require the courts. That’s why they are so panicked over Kavanaugh.

- Does Schumer and crew honestly think that after this circus everyone will just meekly apologize and do whatever he and Feinstein want? Once the FBI gets involved at looking at complete life histories of political leaders? Boy won’t that be exciting? I mean do note Cory Bookers long winded scolding speech today. Then take note that his own autobiography states that he sexually molested a drunk underaged teenaged girl when he was 15. (“One of life’s little regrets!”) Patrick Leahy, another committee loudmouth. Every page and intern in DC has long been quietly warned he is one to avoid getting in an elevator with, as part of their orientation briefing. And let’s not forget Kamala Harris. A former prosecutor noted for sending an obscenely large amount of innocent men to prison. Her rate of overturned and questionable convictions is truly staggering. How many in DC could survive Kavanaugh level scrutiny?

Schumer and the Dems default operating assumption is that the GOP and the normies will just roll over anytime they point fingers and scream. Granted for most of their lives this has been a safe assumption. The GOP establishment would avoid direct conflict at its own expense. But just as the Progressive Socialist nutbags has risen on the left, the GOP has its own younger militant wing. They believe in punching back. Punching back hard. Then kicking a few times to make sure the message is received. These are the rising tide in the GOP. And they’ve read and adsorbed Alinsky’s rules.
 
Tim Pool made a video about Vox and how the far left are becoming desperate.
I'm para phrasing what Tim said
"when people become desperate they become dangerous"

Oh, that's not paraphrase, he said exactly that. But I don't necessarily agree with him.

It's more like, "When people become desperate, they become sloppy" A desperate violent person would be dangerous because they'd not think about being smart or measured with their violence as they usually would be.

But a desperate slimy politician just becomes an unglued shrieking harpy that has no idea how they look to outsiders trying to make sense of their hyperbolic word-salad.
 
If anyone is wondering what happened...

The dems got procedurally spanked. The chairman brought Flake up to vote, knowing Flake was gonna add stuff for more bullshit stalling.

So when Flake got up and started his "I vote yes, but..." thing, the chairman called the meeting. All that counted was the 'Yes'. So Kav moves forward, the dems can do nothing, and Feinstein has a meltdown.

To top it off, the President ordered the FBI to run the requested investigation while the confirmation proceeds, just to shut up the "You guys forced blocked an investigation to force a rapist in!" bullshit before it started.

The FBI isn't gonna find anything because there's nothing to find.

So it puts the dems in a position of either "The FBI is amazing and unbiased, so trust them to do their job via the Russia Investigation!" or "The FBI is incompetent/biased because they didn't prove Kav is a racist!"


The 5D Chess stuff is memes, but sometimes there's some truth to it...
Thanks for clearing that up.
According to McConnell they have all the votes they need Flake or no Flake and they might have a Red State Democrat or two ready to flip as well.
So really we'll just have to grit our teeth and wait a week while the FBI investigates... whatever the hell there even is to investigate and the Senate putters around for a few days.
Its not gonna be pleasant but it seems this will all come to an end on Friday.
 
:powerlevel: All my peers have not changed their mind, they seem to think simply because the FBI's investigating there's legitimacy to this. I hope the posters here are telling the truth that people aren't putting up with this shit because from my end it doesn't look like it.
How much TDS do they have?
 
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A picture (tweet) worth a thousand words.:story:
http://archive.is/mxbX4
 
I hate to say this, but the weekend is here
And after Lindsey Graham got doxxed.
It wouldn't surprise me if activist go show up to Graham's and others homes. And just do the craziest protest shit show of a protest, and maybe with Celebs included.
Just to sway their vote out of fear
And if they do that, it will be all over the Dems anywhere that isn't a borderline modern reincarnation of Sodom and Gomorrah, or Babylon, such as Hollywood or New York City.

You do not attack an elected official in a republic that isn't totally corrupt and expect anyone except similar extremists and radicals to praise you for it.
 
It takes a lot for me to react in the form of literal screaming when reading through or watching dumb things that people say, but I was screaming at the computer and screaming at the TV at one of the specific responses I've been hearing after Kavanaugh's testimony:

"Oh, he seems mad. I wonder how much more violent he is when drunk! He's practically admitting guilt by being so angry!"

Yes, because I'm 100% sure that NOBODY would be pissed off when they're accused of something heinous that they didn't do. Uh-huh, sure. If I were going through what Kavanaugh has gone through, I honestly would be crying and yelling nonstop. I wouldn't be able to contain my emotions.

Fuck these disingenuous, political ideologues. As far as I can see, I would rather shoot myself between the eyes with a nail gun than vote Democrat in the foreseeable future.
 
Let's not forget that Linda Sarsour has also freely expressed that female critics of Islam (and its oppressive nature), like Hyaan Hirsi Ali, should go through genital mutilation.

I know some people who actually quote and follow Sarsour. To be honest, I've become afraid of the people who follow her. How can people NOT know how radical she is? For fuck's sake.
 
This is not going to end well for the Democrats

They're blowing all thier big guns on a fight they will lose anyway. All that will happen is they push more and more moderates into the GoP camp.

Plus the precedent they are setting is down right scary. They're saying its totally OK to assault any public figure with baseless accusations and slander.

Don't they see the wheel always turns and sooner or later it will be their pick that has to stand up to what ever muck the GoP can sling at him/her?

This is a sad sad say for the US. I haven't been this disgusted with American Politics since Clinton told the nation on TV he didn't fuck that cow in the Ready Room.
 
I know some people who actually quote and follow Sarsour. To be honest, I've become afraid of the people who follow her. How can people NOT know how radical she is? For fuck's sake.
Because she is an intersectional "feminist" who follows the religion of peace (remember that any verse in the Qur'an that can be even vaguely construed to be bad is only so in your own interpretation, meaning opinion).
 
And if they do that, it will be all over the Dems anywhere that isn't a borderline modern reincarnation of Sodom and Gomorrah, or Babylon, such as Hollywood or New York City.

You do not attack an elected official in a republic that isn't totally corrupt and expect anyone except similar extremists and radicals to praise you for it.
Things got nervous enough as is with the attempt on the GOP Reps that almost got Steve Scalise.

If they want to go down the road of assassinating political leaders they dislike, they might want to consider who has more guns.
 
The whole thing reeks of the Harry Reid/Chuckles Schumer school of politics. Fight every single battle as nasty as possible, give no quarter, reach no compromise, no matter the long term consequences. It looks great to the Liberal press. But this situation is just a compounding of long lasting errors on the Dems part.

- Schumer really really fucked up with Gorsuch. He fucked up big, and he fucked up knowingly. Just to appease his most unhinged progressives. There was no reason to fight Gorsuch. It was a status quo appointment. The War has already been lost. They didn’t have the Senate, when Garland was nominated and their own Joe Biden/Harry Reid rule was used against them. As they say elections have consequences. So Schumer fought tooth and nail, giving McConnell the excuse to nuke the filibuster at a moment when he had sufficient Senate unity to do so. If Schumer had been reasonable and strategic back then, he would still have the filibuster now. And McConnel would have never gotten removing it through Flake, etc. So Schumer by being a short sited ass, and playing to media instead of playing leadership, sacrificed the one tool he had pointlessly.

- The Kavanaugh fiasco may, just may, score some political points for Dems in November. Although I suspect that those will be limited to places they already rule. The Circus has pissed off and offended a great many others. But Chuckles was never going to have the ability to block Kavanaugh. And there is no mathematical model where the Dems take the Senate before 2020. So either Kavanaugh or someone like him is seated. The 2 Dem Senators from California just spent the day screaming Rapist at a distinguished US Circuit Court Judge Who will likely sit on the court. Over a 35 year old fuzzy drunken high school claim. Judges are not as above things as they claim. If you attack a Judge in this regard every other Judge will beat you down should you come before them. Directly attacking a Judges character in this way, with no compelling or corroborating evidences a guarantee to piss off all of the Federal Circuit and most of the current SCOTUS Justices. California May have just effectively lost in Federal Court for the next 20 years. Once again, you don’t sandbag a sitting Judge like this and not expect blowback from the Judiciary. And most Dem approaches to things require the courts. That’s why they are so panicked over Kavanaugh.

- Does Schumer and crew honestly think that after this circus everyone will just meekly apologize and do whatever he and Feinstein want? Once the FBI gets involved at looking at complete life histories of political leaders? Boy won’t that be exciting? I mean do note Cory Bookers long winded scolding speech today. Then take note that his own autobiography states that he sexually molested a drunk underaged teenaged girl when he was 15. (“One of life’s little regrets!”) Patrick Leahy, another committee loudmouth. Every page and intern in DC has long been quietly warned he is one to avoid getting in an elevator with, as part of their orientation briefing. And let’s not forget Kamala Harris. A former prosecutor noted for sending an obscenely large amount of innocent men to prison. Her rate of overturned and questionable convictions is truly staggering. How many in DC could survive Kavanaugh level scrutiny?

Schumer and the Dems default operating assumption is that the GOP and the normies will just roll over anytime they point fingers and scream. Granted for most of their lives this has been a safe assumption. The GOP establishment would avoid direct conflict at its own expense. But just as the Progressive Socialist nutbags has risen on the left, the GOP has its own younger militant wing. They believe in punching back. Punching back hard. Then kicking a few times to make sure the message is received. These are the rising tide in the GOP. And they’ve read and adsorbed Alinsky’s rules.

A very interesting quirk is that, at least up here in NY, outside the Manhattan Bubble, it's had the opposite effect: The Dem base is fucking pissed. There's a reason Schumer's about as well-liked as Crohn's Disease up here outside his rabid fanbase. The dude pathologically goes with shafting his own constituency, and the only reason he still has his job is because the DNC bankrolls anyone who dares primary challenge the selfish prick while strategically deplatforming any opposition in-party. That's the case for many, if not all of the establishment Dems, and while they're really big on going on about how they're going to improve shit, fact of the matter is that both sides of the electorate fucking hate them. It's only the party insiders that want them to be there, and that's not going to avail them forever if they keep fucking losing.
 
Regardless of how this goes, the story of Kavanaugh is going to be a legend told through the entire lifetime of America through history books.

The Democrats literally could not have shot themselves in the foot worse if he comes back clean (which he likely will). They are going to have a story immortalized where EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT SENATOR WAS OK WITH LYING AND DESTROYING A MANS LIFE because he didn't think the way they wanted to.

Also I really look forward to one day looking in a history book to see Senator Graham's rant.

This has been amazing.
 
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