Manosphere Theodore "Teddy" Beale / Vox Day / Vox Popoli / Teddy Spaghetti - pretentious self-imporant Ultra-Right Science Fiction writer and publisher, jealous of Jordan Peterson.

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Vox, i can hear the tongue in you cheek but people would be more inclined to take your point if you weren't such an asshole.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/comicsgate-has-been-known-to-attack.html?m=1
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Vox, i can hear the tongue in you cheek but people would be more inclined to take your point if you weren't such an asshole.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/comicsgate-has-been-known-to-attack.html?m=1
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This is the same man who used to run interference for Roosh "Get Offa Mah Mom's Lawn Or I'll Rape Ya" V., Mike "Taking Credit For Trump's Success" Cernovich, and Milo "DID I MENTION TODAY THAT MY GAY HUSBAND IS BLACK" Yiannopolous because something something "we need all the allies we can get in this war for Western Civilization".
 
This... this is kind of funny but it's going to take some context.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/boers-out-chinese-in.html
https://archive.is/mhVuP

Blah blah - one set of "minorities" (in this case, the Chinese) are about to oppress another set of "minorities" (South Africans) proving that whites aren't the only assholes. Let's skip down to the relevant segment:
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Well a few days ago Vox posted this:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/existential-threat-or-ineluctable.html
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Why do I bring this up? Peter Grant seems to be a decent fellow who's actually tried to do genuinely good with his life. If you're curious: http://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/

But the catch is: he's a south african immigrant (seriously, some of his articles on africa and stuff is very informative).

Look at the right sidebar of Vox's blog.
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The punchline?
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Gee, Vox, I wonder where in the world one of your ilk got it into their head to take a shot at Mr. Grant...
Not surprising he's yanking his attack dogs' leashes though. Grant's hardcopy versions of his books are being published through Castalia House. Having a tiff start would be... counterproductive.
 
Another day, another opportunity for Vox to standfirm and declare "Let's them and you fight"

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/the-long-retreat.html
http://archive.is/3Zcb2

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"[...] the Alt-Right is inevitable, the survival of white America as a distinct identity group is not." This is one of those statements that leads me to be to believe that Vox is of the same attitude of Hitler during the last ten days of his life: desperate, delusional, full of an equal mix of pride and disdain for "his" "people" (scare quotes being that Vox is a Western man or a Red Indian depending on what rhetoric he wishes to employ that day). That despite his insistence that The Counterattack will drive all the enemies away, the math and the reality on the ground do not support that hope.

The comment section is always a hoot to read, though I'm not sure Vox Popoli is entertaining or autistic enough to merit its own thread in Community Watch. Here are some select exerpts:

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I'll remind everyone that Vox's idea of "fighting" is to flee to Northern Italy, drink wine, play soccer, become a professional shitposter and make a two bit publishing house that may or may not have been funded by laundering his father's tax evasion dollars.
 

Vox demonstrates a lack of historical understanding of the history of Detroit and the inner cities in general. The blacks didn't "ethnically cleanse" the whites; FDR instituted the Federal Housing Administration, which both subsidized builders to establish suburbs that would be whites-only, and refused to insure mortgages in or near black communities. As a result, whites were practically compelled to leave their urban homes and move out, leaving the blacks in the inner cities with a much contracted economy.

So, the obvious solution is to do it again. I'm sure that won't cause problems for generations to come.

I'll remind everyone that Vox's idea of "fighting" is to flee to Northern Italy, drink wine, play soccer, become a professional shitposter and make a two bit publishing house that may or may not have been funded by laundering his father's tax evasion dollars.

As with Christianity, he likes the idea of the thing, and likes other people to do it, but when it comes to applying it to his own life, he can't be bothered for Reasons that you won't understand unless you also understand Rick and Morty or something.
 
The blacks didn't "ethnically cleanse" the whites; FDR instituted the Federal Housing Administration, which both subsidized builders to establish suburbs that would be whites-only, and refused to insure mortgages in or near black communities. As a result, whites were practically compelled to leave
Shhhh..... don't let facts get in the way of good rhetoric.
 
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/quotes-to-live-by.html
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Vox, this is what's annoying about you. You think that any disagreement against you must be socially motivated. It apparently never occurs to you that you might actually be wrong, or that you could just be an asshole. I'm under no illusion the left would see any difference between me and you - I just find you to be an unbearable jerk.
 
It's more like Vox trying to unite the various "leaderless" factions of the Right under his banner. Thing is, Vox also has a history of denouncing certain figures as Fake Right (Jordan B. Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Richard Spencer, sometimes Cernovich) so what is the use of getting people together if you're gong to shun them anyway? Classic "filling a leak bucket" strategy/blunder.
 
Probably. Teddy likes to brag about how he's 'outside the hierarchy'. Despite his hilariously beta reactions to criticism.

He really is outside the hierarchy, due to his narrow-minded pompous self-importance, but he tries to spin it in positive way, as a proof of his superiority.

It's as if was lacking in his childhood a parental figure, a mentor maybe, who could explain to him that every attempt to prove your superiority is seen as a sign of your weakness, as the real superiority doesn't need any proof, it just asserts itself effortlessly.
 
It's more like Vox trying to unite the various "leaderless" factions of the Right under his banner. Thing is, Vox also has a history of denouncing certain figures as Fake Right (Jordan B. Peterson, Ben Shapiro, Richard Spencer, sometimes Cernovich) so what is the use of getting people together if you're gong to shun them anyway? Classic "filling a leak bucket" strategy/blunder.

How is Jordan Peterson "fake right" when he describes himself as a liberal? Peterson being "alt-right" is just more made up bullshit from the reeee brigade.
 
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/09/wait-what.html
http://archive.is/kCvtc

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"Q is talking about space aliens! Buy my Q comic!"

But let's not talk about a maybe-real-maybe-LARP conspiracy theorist(s). Let's take a look at that comic page, shall we?

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Let's think about the thought process that went into making that page. "Hey, you know that character who is an elite Deep State consumer of underage explicit content? Yeah, him. Make sure that he has a perfect Greek God physique. Don't ask questions, MPAI! We're trying to target... ugh, key demographics. Yeah. Yeah that's it."

Also, who puts a gun to someone's head that you're gonna neck snap? :autism:
 
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Let's think about the thought process that went into making that page. "Hey, you know that character who is an elite Deep State consumer of underage explicit content? Yeah, him. Make sure that he has a perfect Greek God physique. Don't ask questions, MPAI! We're trying to target... ugh, key demographics. Yeah. Yeah that's it."

To give a micro dose of fairness: at least it's not the other trend of politic writing where they make the enemy so imperfect it becomes hilariously cartoony (see: General Hux from the latest star wars). I've complained about other stories before where they make a villain SO unappealing it's completely baffling how that person could have any followers at all.

I just can't get over how much the hero looks like the Punisher. Like - I'm shocked Vox isn't getting sued by Marvel. Heck just imagine if they had darkened his skin shade to make him a black punisher-esque figure. THAT I would have paid money to watch people react to.

Also, who puts a gun to someone's head that you're gonna neck snap? :autism:

I THINK the implication is supposed to be that he was going to shoot the guy but then became so disgusted he decided to kill in a more personal, brutal way.

But then that's always been my biggest problem with Vox's writings. He seems to not grasp that other people don't think like him and just assumes people are going to jump along the same logic train as him. Well they won't, as a writer you need to explain A->B->C->D.... etc. Yes I can already hear the reply: You don't want to go :autism: in the other direction and spell everything out with on-the-nose dialog. That's why they call this thing an ART, because a good fiction writer learns how to tell and explain something without telling you that they're doing it.
 
It's been a while since this thread has seen any action. Here's some recent, classic Vox Day posturing:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/
http://archive.is/FAfEr

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TL;DR--
"This is not about me ego."
Proceeds to stroke his ego.

By all means Vox, do torch your comments section. When disagreement with your almighty +12 standard deviation IQ is unacceptable to you, but the vast majority of the comments (that you implicitly approve of) are the rants of people who are the inbred extrachromosomal children of 4/8Chan and Stormfront, your comment section may just be shit.

The post being referred to:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/10/darkstream-supreme-court-and-social.html
http://archive.is/PxMs0

Is calling an SJW a social justice terrorist good rhetoric?

No, it's terrible, it's absolutely terrible. The whole point of rhetoric is to instigate emotions. SJWs do consider themselves to be brave warriors for social justice, that's why using SJW in a derogatory sense upsets them. They do not consider themselves to be terrorists, so you might as well call them social justice poopyheads, that's not effective either. What you guys need to learn is it's not about what YOU think.

You know I find this incredibly irritating. People are constantly saying "well, I call them social justice crybabies cuz I think they I think they cry and they're babies." First of all, no, you don't call them that, nobody calls them that, you've never called them that. Second, it's not about you, it's not about what you think, it's about what they think. That's why rhetoric is effective. Rhetoric points to the truth, you know, and they're not terrorists, terrorists are actually scary and SJWs are not. That's part of why they're so successful, you know, because they're not scary people who are taken seriously.

Yeah, alternatively use what they call you, mockingly, but use it not ironically, that can also be effective. SJWs aren't warriors and they don't fight anything but caffeine and sugar addictions, diabetes, and obesity. That's true, but they like to think that they are, and so when you're calling them "warriors" they know that you're mocking them, that's why it's so effective. What is a good use of rhetoric to use against SJWS? They hate being called SJWs, it drives them crazy, they even try to claim that the Alt-Right invented it! No, the Alt-Right didn't invent any of that, that's what they actually call themselves and it was just such a lame, ridiculous term that it became a perjorative, a very effective one.

What would you call them to offend them? I just call them SJWs, that offends them every single time, they hate it. Don't you understand the most effective rhetoric to use against something is that which upsets them the most? That's why the whole "Democrats are the real racists" doesn't work at all, because they don't regard themselves as being racist, they're too clueless and hypocritical to make the abstract leap that is required to connect their paternalistic attitude towards minorities with racism and understand that it is actually racist. Again, you're delving into the realm of dialectic, as soon as you have to start explaining something you are in the realm of dialectic. If you are applying logic to it you're in the realm of dialectic. Whatever you use has to inflict emotional pain on them.

To which I later added in the comments:

For the benefit of those of you who are too stupid to understand either my books or Aristotle's, I will dumb the concept down to the maximum extent possible:

Rhetoric is NOT about YOU. It is not about what you think, it is not about what makes sense to you, it is not about what you think sounds cool, clever, witty, funny, or will "cause heads to explode". Rhetoric is about what observably causes emotional pain and distress to its target.

If you think calling the Left, which has supported every terrorist movement since the Irgun, the IRA, and the PLO, "terrorists", is going to cause them any emotional pain at all, then you are even dumber than I already think you are.
 
The genius said:
Rhetoric is NOT about YOU. It is not about what you think, it is not about what makes sense to you, it is not about what you think sounds cool, clever, witty, funny, or will "cause heads to explode". Rhetoric is about what observably causes emotional pain and distress to its target.

Um, no, rhetoric is about the use of words to persuade. Unless you're trying to persuade someone that you're an asshole at whom they ought to be angry, "causing emotional pain and distress" is completely irrelevant.

Also, "social justice terrorist" is a good term for people who threaten (or carry out) violent acts to advance "social justice" because that is what terrorism is by definition. There's a time to call a spade a spade--which he would know if he understood what "rhetoric" is.

He's right that it's not about you and it's not about scoring points on the opponent, that's true...It's about persuading people to agree with your position.
 
The whole point of rhetoric is to instigate emotions.
This always cracks me up when I keep it mind while reading his JBP post.

>Supergenius makes fun of people for not getting rhetoric.
>Proceeds to not get JBP's rhetoric.
 
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