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judgehate said:
you mean like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nXOFkFSYrk&t=21m40s
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Interesting, but I'm not sure violating an FTC guideline is criminal

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pre...f-reminds-influencers-brands-clearly-disclose
 
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
Answering questions at 2:30am makes me think these guys are desperately firefighting. Expect to see full on Candid level scumbaggery in the future with influencers making videos attacking the critics, critics videos being flagged and so on.
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Yeah, I expect things to implode as soon as the DeFranco video hits, where he "investigates" their offices. Unless DeFranco does the best conjob in the world, it will be a disaster, where even MSM will get involved. His team and betterhelp must be in panic, like the victim of an impending car crash.
 
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the_watcher said:
Yeah, I expect things to implode as soon as the DeFranco video hits, where he "investigates" their offices. Unless DeFranco does the best conjob in the world, it will be a disaster, where even MSM will get involved. His team and betterhelp must be in panic, like the victim of an impending car crash.
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I wouldn't count him out quite yet to be honest. He's a slick PR scumbag who has probably made hundreds of thousands of dollars out of this. He also owns Rogue Rocket which is the ad company running the campaign.

All he needs to do is collect all the complaints and work with BetterHelp behind the scenes to essentially script an interview with the CEO where the CEO apologises for the questionable stuff in the user agreement 'We didn't want to do it but those damn lawyers insisted! Of course we'll take them out - we will vet therapists for education and criminal record. Also all information will be kept private'. Plus since the interview is between him and BetterHelp and their interests align any questions they can't think of a good answer to they can just not ask. Or the CEO can just say he'll take stuff out of the user agreement but not replace it with anything.

Then he goes in there, him and the CEO do the scripted 'interview' and he comes out looking like PhillyD - Investigative Journalist. And BetterHelp look like people who were trying to be helpful but were ignorant of legalese.

I.e. he could pull this off if he's as slick and amoral as he looks. Or it might turn into a shitshow.
 
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Gustav Schuchardt said:
ignorant of legalese.
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yeah i can see them trying that too but it doesnt wash with me , the fact they were taken over by teladoc 3 years ago and the oh we are a poor little startup line ...........doesnt hold much water with me
a multi million dollars company taking it over didnt look at the terms and conditions when they bought it .........or couldnt afford a lawyer .......sure
 
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judgehate said:
yeah i can see them trying that too but it doesnt wash with me , the fact they were taken over by teladoc 2 years ago and the oh we are a poor little startup line ...........doesnt hold much water with me
a multi million dollars company taking it over didnt look at the terms and conditions when they bought it .........or couldnt afford a lawyer .......sure
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Look if I were him I'd talk to a bunch of millennial girl therapists who say they're 'just in it to help people because they had relatives who committed suicide (cue sad background music)'. And then talk to the CEO who'd blame the lawyers for the user agreement, admit Mistakes Had Been Made and promise he'd try harder in future because the business is really about people like those therapists he interviewed earlier.

Would it convince me? Well no, but I'm not in the target market.
 
Variable Vagaries said:
I liked Phil and I'm pretty disappointed with this whole thing. The only way he comes out of this not looking like a complete sellout douchebag is if he was doing the ad thing to get more revenue for the news thing, he apologizes for not disclosing he was doing the ad thing, he apologizes for not disclosing the BH ad placement partnership, he apologizes to the people he placed BH spots with, and he uses this interview with BH to publicly expose them further. Not :optimistic: about that happening though.
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Phillip picked his side with his latest video. Instead of defending his fans, apologizing and showing remorse, he instead defended BetterHelp.
The video was about protecting BetterHelp. He showed little care for the people who used the service without knowing the full extend of the terms of services. He didn't apologize for jumping the gun and suggesting a shady service to his fans.

He is more worried about protecting BetterHelp. His video reads like marketing, a PR trying to save BetterHelp brand, not from a content creator feeling regret or admitting he fucked up to the millions of fans that follow him.
He is a sellout, a shill and it is hard to believe he cares about his fans when he pulls shit like that.
 
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BananaBlue said:
Phillip picked his side with his latest video. Instead of defending his fans, apologizing and showing remorse, he instead defended BetterHelp.
The video was about protecting BetterHelp. He showed little care for the people who used the service without knowing the full extend of the terms of services. He didn't apologize for jumping the gun and suggesting a shady service to his fans.

He is more worried about protecting BetterHelp. His video reads like marketing, a PR trying to save BetterHelp brand, not from a content creator feeling regret or admitting he fucked up to the millions of fans that follow him.
He is a sellout, a shill and it is hard to believe he cares about his fans when he pulls shit like that.
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Well it's not like he can quit his job and go get a real one, who is gonna hire a guy with 10+ years experience pretending he cares what peoples opinions are in the yotuube comments section?
 
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Manly-Chicken said:
IDK what's more harmful:
The fact that Betterhelp targeted YouTubers known for having extremely young viewers or that because of Pewdiepie's video on Betterhelp, a bunch of his fans now have Kiwi Farms accounts.
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Didn't he say "Reddit" in the video though? People who aren't on here won't automatically recognize the website layout.
 
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BananaBlue said:
He is more worried about protecting BetterHelp. His video reads like marketing, a PR trying to save BetterHelp brand, not from a content creator feeling regret or admitting he fucked up to the millions of fans that follow him.
He is a sellout, a shill and it is hard to believe he cares about his fans when he pulls shit like that.
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His company, Rogue Rocket is the Ad agency in charge of the BetterHelp campaign.

https://www.roguerocket.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20180824021445/https://www.roguerocket.com/

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