SJW Art and Extremes

[Meowthkip]

Not sure if this is the right fit for this thread but it's definitely art with an SJW bent
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a multimedia art exhibit for fat acceptance by parodying medias representation of fat people as an examination of fatties as an animal rather than a human.

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Wildlife documentary

Artists website: http://www.rachelherrick.com/
Exhibits website: http://www.obeasts.org/

Is this supposed to not be funny?

 

[HarblMcDavid]

Not sure if this is the right fit for this thread but it's definitely art with an SJW bent
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a multimedia art exhibit for fat acceptance by parodying medias representation of fat people as an examination of fatties as an animal rather than a human.

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Wildlife documentary

Artists website: http://www.rachelherrick.com/
Exhibits website: http://www.obeasts.org/

Okay which one of you made this

 

[Trilby]

Damn, that sucks. I think doing inktober digitally is a stupid idea especially if you rarely ever draw in traditional anyway. I used to do inktober and it really got me into traditional art. I learned from my mistakes from past days and learned better hand coordination. But I guess that's too much of a challenge for those babies.

It is a dumb idea to use digital means for Inktober, but as someone else has said, this did cull the herd of those who are obviously up to it and those who rather stick to their digital crutches.

 

[User names must be unique]

Is this supposed to not be funny?

Honestly I have no fucking clue, reading through comments and reviews I think you're not meant to laugh at the pictures, statues or videos. You're supposed to laugh at the fatphobic bigots that apparently think like this and reflect on how society treats fatties.

 

[NG 070]

What’s with the hate on digital art all of a sudden? I mean yeah, I agree that it’s counter productive to the point/purpose of Inktober, but yikes. The medium ain’t all that bad, even if this thread frequently suggests otherwise.

 

[Burned Man]

aw now their runing non sonic sega IPs

I kinda want to see what they could do with Crazy Taxi now.

 

[Nikolaso]

What’s with the hate on digital art all of a sudden? I mean yeah, I agree that it’s counter productive to the point/purpose of Inktober, but yikes. The medium ain’t all that bad, even if this thread frequently suggests otherwise.

Who said that they hated digital art and nobody should do digital art? I think people CAN draw those prompts digitally if they reaally want to, but it seriously (like you said; I agree that it’s counter productive to the point/purpose of Inktober), should be only traditional, traditional is way different than digital and great practice like always, and obviously it's INKtober, you are supposed to use ink and see what kind of things you can do with it! IT's a challenge, and obviously a challenge for those who "REEE" about wanting to only draw digitally and bitching to the creator...
So, I don't know, did somebody say that "digital bad!11" or I just didn't see it? Misunderstood? something?..

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Damn, that sucks. I think doing inktober digitally is a stupid idea especially if you rarely ever draw in traditional anyway. I used to do inktober and it really got me into traditional art. I learned from my mistakes from past days and learned better hand coordination. But I guess that's too much of a challenge for those babies.

Only fair way to do inktober digitally is “no undo and no erase” like LavenderTowne in this video:

 

[weirdMcGee]

Honestly it might’ve been a blessing in disguise. Seems like it culled the herd of a lot of shitty artists who act like they’re allergic to effort, which I’m sure Parker doesnt mind since it’s less of a headache for him. And it’s not like his partnership with Art Snacks (artistic loot crate that does a special inktober package every year with Parker) cares since people crying about how that big meanie Inktober guy doesn’t recognize their shitty digital scribbles during the challenge weren’t going to buy their products anyways.

I'm more of a digital artist so i barely partake in it as much. I do sketch traditionally but rarely ever ink. Really, i don't think inktober was all that good for digital artist but if ya wanna do that that's cool. Perhaps try alternatives that allow digital art to be submitted and your golden.

 

[NG 070]

Who said that they hated digital art and nobody should do digital art? I think people CAN draw those prompts digitally if they reaally want to, but it seriously (like you said; I agree that it’s counter productive to the point/purpose of Inktober), should be only traditional, traditional is way different than digital and great practice like always, and obviously it's INKtober, you are supposed to use ink and see what kind of things you can do with it! IT's a challenge, and obviously a challenge for those who "REEE" about wanting to only draw digitally and bitching to the creator...
So, I don't know, did somebody say that "digital bad!11" or I just didn't see it? Misunderstood? something?..

Yeah, looking back on it, I kinda misunderstood where people were getting at. Sorry about that.

On that note, I wonder if there's any "gold" to be had for the Kinktober art prompts/challenge so far.

 

[judge claude frollo]

(I'm so sorry if these have been posted before and you're forced to look at em again)

 

[Brit Crust]

Aw, why do they have to desecrate Princess Fiona like that?

 

[NoFeline]

I was so sure that was Princess Fiona that my immediate thought was "who asked for this crossover"
Well the answer now is me because that's a much better alternative

 

[One Man Bland]

What’s with the hate on digital art all of a sudden? I mean yeah, I agree that it’s counter productive to the point/purpose of Inktober, but yikes. The medium ain’t all that bad, even if this thread frequently suggests otherwise.

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that they hate digital art or that it's a bad medium.

If anything I would say a bigger issue is the community/culture that's come to surround digital art, specifically a very particular sub-set of the digital art community that's gained more traction as of late now that there's a ton of teens and 20-somethings who've only ever worked digitally (an incidentally has a lot of overlap with the SJW artist communities) but don't really have a proper grasp on the tools or the basics of art to actually use either to their fullest potential. In my experience, such artists tend to not see the point in learning the fundamentals when digital tools can provide so many shortcuts and it makes them extremely stubborn and difficult to teach. They don't see the point in drawing from life (or utilizing the hundreds of online resources that would make life drawing practice for digital art easy) when digital art software typically has layers, opacity settings, and transform tools; they don't see the point in learning color theory or how to blend/color mix when there's an eye dropper, multiply & overlay settings, and a smudge tool; and sometimes they don't see the point in figuring out how do line work and develop habits that are actually more time/energy consuming like doing the same gesture over and over until they make the right line or making a million sketchy lines. It also seems to be the origin of a lot of bad artistic advice that gets passed around in circles like Tumblr - majority of the time an artist claims that straight up tracing is "valid," it's a digital artist saying it.

With the Inktober debacle the artists who screamed the loudest were the exact kind of artists who exemplified all these bad habits, complete with bombarding the host Jake Parker with before/after shots of their art similar to this one that only served to prove Parker's point. And they wouldn't be SJWs without a healthy dose of baseless accusations in the form of calling traditional art ableist and classist, even though none of these complainers were actually disabled (or were """disabled""" due to their own bad art habits) and the supposed cost effectiveness of digital art is practically non-existent nowadays with how many art programs are defaulting to a subscription plan, the combined cost of a computer, tablet, & necessary storage, and I've noticed a lot of the Tumblr artists who make this claim often have someone else (namely parents) footing the bills for the heaviest costs to digital art.

To sum it all up, a couple pages back I made an analogy for this situation that still sums up my feelings on the matter:

Another way to look at it is imagining if traditional art was a bicycle and digital art was a motorcycle. Between the two, the motorcycle is the more advanced tool and provides more powerful/efficient features that you can't necessarily get from a bicycle, but it would be crazy to hop straight on a motorcycle if you've never ridden a bicycle before since the bicycle helps you with the most basic of concepts that are still applicable to the motorcycle.

Tumblr artists are often the people who declare the bicycle to be obsolete with no useful skills to offer and then proceed to putt-putt away going 2 mph on a $2000 Wacom motorcycle because they have none of the skills to use it properly.

 

[Trilby]

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that they hate digital art or that it's a bad medium.

If anything I would say a bigger issue is the community/culture that's come to surround digital art, specifically a very particular sub-set of the digital art community that's gained more traction as of late now that there's a ton of teens and 20-somethings who've only ever worked digitally (an incidentally has a lot of overlap with the SJW artist communities) but don't really have a proper grasp on the tools or the basics of art to actually use either to their fullest potential. In my experience, such artists tend to not see the point in learning the fundamentals when digital tools can provide so many shortcuts and it makes them extremely stubborn and difficult to teach. They don't see the point in drawing from life (or utilizing the hundreds of online resources that would make life drawing practice for digital art easy) when digital art software typically has layers, opacity settings, and transform tools; they don't see the point in learning color theory or how to blend/color mix when there's an eye dropper, multiply & overlay settings, and a smudge tool; and sometimes they don't see the point in figuring out how do line work and develop habits that are actually more time/energy consuming like doing the same gesture over and over until they make the right line or making a million sketchy lines. It also seems to be the origin of a lot of bad artistic advice that gets passed around in circles like Tumblr - majority of the time an artist claims that straight up tracing is "valid," it's a digital artist saying it.

With the Inktober debacle the artists who screamed the loudest were the exact kind of artists who exemplified all these bad habits, complete with bombarding the host Jake Parker with before/after shots of their art similar to this one that only served to prove Parker's point. And they wouldn't be SJWs without a healthy dose of baseless accusations in the form of calling traditional art ableist and classist, even though none of these complainers were actually disabled (or were """disabled""" due to their own bad art habits) and the supposed cost effectiveness of digital art is practically non-existent nowadays with how many art programs are defaulting to a subscription plan, the combined cost of a computer, tablet, & necessary storage, and I've noticed a lot of the Tumblr artists who make this claim often have someone else (namely parents) footing the bills for the heaviest costs to digital art.

To sum it all up, a couple pages back I made an analogy for this situation that still sums up my feelings on the matter:

I'm so glad to have been born before all this happened.

 

[madethistocomment]

According to the artist, the.... thing on the right is supposed to be one of the Huldrefolk. You know, the Norwegian folklore race of insanely gorgeous beings who are so sexy that they can hypnotize people into running off into the forest with them?

 

[NG 070]

I don't think anyone here is suggesting that they hate digital art or that it's a bad medium.

If anything I would say a bigger issue is the community/culture that's come to surround digital art, specifically a very particular sub-set of the digital art community that's gained more traction as of late now that there's a ton of teens and 20-somethings who've only ever worked digitally (an incidentally has a lot of overlap with the SJW artist communities) but don't really have a proper grasp on the tools or the basics of art to actually use either to their fullest potential. In my experience, such artists tend to not see the point in learning the fundamentals when digital tools can provide so many shortcuts and it makes them extremely stubborn and difficult to teach. They don't see the point in drawing from life (or utilizing the hundreds of online resources that would make life drawing practice for digital art easy) when digital art software typically has layers, opacity settings, and transform tools; they don't see the point in learning color theory or how to blend/color mix when there's an eye dropper, multiply & overlay settings, and a smudge tool; and sometimes they don't see the point in figuring out how do line work and develop habits that are actually more time/energy consuming like doing the same gesture over and over until they make the right line or making a million sketchy lines. It also seems to be the origin of a lot of bad artistic advice that gets passed around in circles like Tumblr - majority of the time an artist claims that straight up tracing is "valid," it's a digital artist saying it.

With the Inktober debacle the artists who screamed the loudest were the exact kind of artists who exemplified all these bad habits, complete with bombarding the host Jake Parker with before/after shots of their art similar to this one that only served to prove Parker's point. And they wouldn't be SJWs without a healthy dose of baseless accusations in the form of calling traditional art ableist and classist, even though none of these complainers were actually disabled (or were """disabled""" due to their own bad art habits) and the supposed cost effectiveness of digital art is practically non-existent nowadays with how many art programs are defaulting to a subscription plan, the combined cost of a computer, tablet, & necessary storage, and I've noticed a lot of the Tumblr artists who make this claim often have someone else (namely parents) footing the bills for the heaviest costs to digital art.

To sum it all up, a couple pages back I made an analogy for this situation that still sums up my feelings on the matter:

Well, when you put it that way, yeah, I totally get it now. Hell, it all starts to make sense, too, especially when you see how some of these younger artists have rapidly devolved in terms of art skill over even one to two years. All from being surrounded and insulating themselves in these bubbles that mollycoddle their underdeveloped artstyle, stunt artistic growth, and all that 'uwu valid' pablum mindset. They don't want to do anything that would challenge them and push them out of their comfort zones, when such a mentality is actually the anthesis to what an artist should be and/or stands for.

And lmao, yeah. When you factor in computers/iPads, drawing tablets, art programs... when you can get a sketchbook, pencil, eraser, and inking pen for a quarter of the price, it does make you wonder which one truly is the abelist/classist medium.

Also, apropos of nothing, but on Lolcow.farm's /snow/ board, there's a huge brouhaha going on with one of their pet cows, Holly Brown, and tracing. She's probably the furthest thing from an SJW you can get, but a lot of the points you made reminded me of that going on over at the other farms.

 

[TheGreatestSword]

Hey i didn't plan on getting this app but I've been stalking this for a while now and I found something questionable idk if any of you found it yet tho http://poc-stuck.tumblr.com

 

[El_Cacahuate]

Hey i didn't plan on getting this app but I've been stalking this for a while now and I found something questionable idk if any of you found it yet tho http://poc-stuck.tumblr.com

How many pocstuck exist in tumblr?
And I have the feeling that these people send messages themselves

How can you see this and think it's okay !?

 

[TheGreatestSword]

This stuff honestly scares me. My favorite characters from hiveswap are gonna get their friendsim out soon and the entire fandom is flooding with them being Non-binary and a bunch of other Tumblr stuff (although it's not confirmed for sure yet) I'm just glad they aren't that popular of characters (at least for now)