Plagued Weeaboos and other Japan spergs

[ToroidalBoat]

Weebs may think of Japan as being like it's portrayed in anime.

But anime is more of a form of escapism to the Japanese -- a kind of stress relief. The real Japan is a fairly work-oriented and conformist place, and unfortunately it has a high suicide rate.

Ironically, Japanese may think of the USA as it's portrayed in Hollywood movies.

 

[CWCchange]

It's "everything I learned about X I learned from Y" mentality. Suicide ain't much higher than many other countries that matter nowadays, with Russia and South Korea taking the cake.

A famous example of Japanese delusions abroad is "Paris syndrome," whereas tourists come to Paris thinking its a romantic high-class place, and experience culture shock when they realize it's a shithole.

 

[Umaibae]

Weebs may think of Japan as being like it's portrayed in anime.

But anime is more of a form of escapism to the Japanese -- a kind of stress relief. The real Japan is a fairly work-oriented and conformist place, and unfortunately it has a high suicide rate.

Ironically, Japanese may think of the USA as it's portrayed in Hollywood movies.

Liking anime in Japan is seen as just as much as a dorky and niche thing as it is in the West. If you're overly obsessed with any anime after age 12, you're a nerd and rightfully lampooned as such. It's definitely not a stress relief lmao. That would be drinking yourself to excess, night after night — or, if you're a dude, going to a Soapland or Snack Bar.

The types of dudes you see lingering around anime shops and arcades are greasy, skinny, beta looking weirdos.

Suicide rate is not higher here than most other first world countries. It's monumentally higher in South Korea.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

It's definitely not a stress relief lmao.

It can be to some though it's fairly niche -- anime often portrays a happy or idyllic setting.

It's also unfortunate that people can be so judgemental, whether in Japan or the West. But weebs may think it's not in the former, and that all Japan is like one giant Akihabara.

And yeah, while suicide is an issue in Japan it's much more so in Korea -- I heard the elderly there often kill themselves so they won't "be a burden" to their families.

 

[Umaibae]

It can be to some though it's fairly niche -- anime often portrays a happy or idyllic setting.

It's also unfortunate that people can be so judgemental, whether in Japan or the West. But weebs may think it's not in the former, and that all Japan is like one giant Akihabara.

And yeah, while suicide is an issue in Japan it's much more so in Korea -- I heard the elderly there often kill themselves so they won't "be a burden" to their families.

If you're using anime as a stress relief, you're seen as a deviant and a weirdo. Sorry, it's not iudgemental. It's true. It's not unfortunate, either. It's society telling you, "Yo, this isn't normal."

Just another weeb getting sad that Japan isn't their magical fairyland.

 

[Syaoran Li]

To be honest, Japan sucks and I would not want to visit an ultra-conformist shithole like that

You'd think the weebs would get the message that liking anime is looked down on in Japan, but apparently not.


TL;DR Weebs ruin everything and never seem to get the point

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I would not want to visit an ultra-conformist shithole like that

Foreigners kind of get an "exemption" from cultural expectations, but if you act like a stereotypical otaku or you don't even try to follow etiquette, people may avoid you there.

Still, it's not exactly a paradise for foreigners either. A number of stores and restaurants refuse service to foreigners, and some landlords won't rent to them. And it's legal to do so there -- it's done because foreigners can be seen as (potential) troublemakers, because some really are.

Some survey said 1 in 3 foreigners experience discrimination in Japan. If I were a weeb, that would sober me up pretty quick.

As for anime, I heard it airs in 2 ways there: late night otaku-catering stuff, and daytime kids stuff.

Sorry, it's not iudgemental.

Of course it's not good if one needs to resort to anime to escape reality.

 

[CWCchange]

To be honest, Japan sucks and I would not want to visit an ultra-conformist shithole like that

I wouldn't call Japan an ultra-conformist shithole like it's right out of a fucking Ayn Rand novel. While conformity is of major importance, some individuality is tolerated if it doesn't pose as a hindrance. Of course, the degree of how much is questionable. People are like snowflakes, and while they are all different, are still snowflakes and shouldn't act like hailstones. I mean, ganguro are looked at as clowns, and frankly are.

Conversely, with ultra-individualist shit (((they))) push in the West where you're told to respect all non-binary genders and retarded lifestyles, you can see why people look to places like Japan in admiration of how many things used to be. After all, without being able to look down upon such radical individualism, KF would cease to exist.

Foreigners kind of get an "exemption" from cultural expectations, but if you act like a stereotypical otaku or you don't try to follow etiquette, people may not want to hang around you there.

Still, it's not exactly a paradise for foreigners either. A number of stores and restaurants refuse service to foreigners, and some landlords won't rent to them. And it's legal to do so there.

As for anime, I hear it airs in 2 ways there: late night otaku-catering stuff, and daytime kids stuff.

It's illegal to refuse service to people in Japan on the grounds of discrimination, but they can argue something like the language barrier. Also, it's legal to refuse service to people in the United States if you have a legitimate reason, too. As speakers of English, a language that's spoken all over the world, it might be difficult to understand "Japanese only" on the grounds of language and people. If it indeed is blatant discrimination, what are you going to do, complain about it, or shrug it off and go somewhere else?

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I wonder how many "weeaboos" have gone to Japan and returned as "not weeaboos?"

While conformity is of major importance, some individuality is tolerated if it doesn't pose as a hindrance.

Some conformity may be needed for a stable society, but the "if it's different, it's always wrong" mentality is bullshit.

 

[Umaibae]

I wouldn't call Japan an ultra-conformist shithole like it's right out of a fucking Ayn Rand novel. While conformity is of major importance, some individuality is tolerated if it doesn't pose as a hindrance. Of course, the degree of how much is questionable. People are like snowflakes, and while they are all different, are still snowflakes and shouldn't act like hailstones. I mean, ganguro are looked at as clowns, and frankly are.

Conversely, with ultra-individualist shit (((they))) push in the West where you're told to respect all non-binary genders and exceptional lifestyles, you can see why people look to places like Japan in admiration of how many things used to be. After all, without being able to look down upon such radical individualism, KF would cease to exist.

It's illegal to refuse service to people in Japan on the grounds of discrimination, but they can argue something like the language barrier. Also, it's legal to refuse service to people in the United States if you have a legitimate reason, too. As speakers of English, a language that's spoken all over the world, it might be difficult to understand "Japanese only" on the grounds of language and people. If it indeed is blatant discrimination, what are you going to do, complain about it, or shrug it off and go somewhere else?

This guy gets it, mostly.

Saying Japan is ultra-conformist is buying into clickbait. There are always exceptions to the rules, and the exceptions are more common than the conformists. Of course, if you are an employee at a super Japanese firm, you gotta look and play the part. If your kid goes to a prestigious, competitive high school they gotta wear the uniform and follow the rules. Not too different from most places, really. There are punk rock weirdos, fashion weirdos, mortorcycle hooligans, drag queens, dirty gross old men, loud teens, slackers, hipsters — and yes, even anime losers. There are people who eat on the train, even though "you're not supposed to;" eat or talk in the phone while walking, even though you're "not supposed to;" make a fuckton of noise and walk outside their house in their boxers even though "it's rude," (I've seen it) and so on. If you draw incessant attention to yourself, disturb others or act like a fool, you'll get rightfully called out on it. It's mostly butthurt fat weebs and MUH GENDER types with Danger Hair who turn everything into a crusade. If you laugh off the stares, speak the language and act relatively sane, you'll get by.

As to restaurants and stores banning foreigners, it's a load of bullshit that was perpetuated by some loser American who obtained Japanese citizenship, then changed his name to a Japanese one to prove a point...and ended up being unable to find any solid proof of discrimination aside from a bathhouse in rural northern Hokkaido that banned foreigners because Russian fishermen would come in completely sloshed and trash the place — meaning they couldn't follow the rules. (That American-turned-Japanese eventually got dumped by his Japanese wife and fucked off back to America, so he has an obvious bone to pick against Japan. Unreliable narrator with an agenda.)

The only place I've been turned away from was a bar that turned out to be members only. Anyone who cries DISCRIMINATION is usually unable to understand the nuance of "we don't speak English, so we are afraid we won't be able to help you."

 

[Jungle Princess]

Conversely, with ultra-individualist shit (((they))) push in the West where you're told to respect all non-binary genders and exceptional lifestyles, you can see why people look to places like Japan in admiration of how many things used to be. After all, without being able to look down upon such radical individualism, KF would cease to exist.

I don't know where in the west non-binary people are commonly accepted.

This guy gets it, mostly.

Saying Japan is ultra-conformist is buying into clickbait. There are always exceptions to the rules, and the exceptions are more common than the conformists. Of course, if you are an employee at a super Japanese firm, you gotta look and play the part. If your kid goes to a prestigious, competitive high school they gotta wear the uniform and follow the rules. Not too different from most places, really. There are punk rock weirdos, fashion weirdos, mortorcycle hooligans, drag queens, dirty gross old men, loud teens, slackers, hipsters — and yes, even anime losers. There are people who eat on the train, even though "you're not supposed to;" eat or talk in the phone while walking, even though you're "not supposed to;" make a fuckton of noise and walk outside their house in their boxers even though "it's rude," (I've seen it) and so on. If you draw incessant attention to yourself, disturb others or act like a fool, you'll get rightfully called out on it. It's mostly butthurt fat weebs and MUH GENDER types with Danger Hair who turn everything into a crusade. If you laugh off the stares, speak the language and act relatively sane, you'll get by.

As to restaurants and stores banning foreigners, it's a load of bullshit that was perpetuated by some loser American who obtained Japanese citizenship, then changed his name to a Japanese one to prove a point...and ended up being unable to find any solid proof of discrimination aside from a bathhouse in rural northern Hokkaido that banned foreigners because Russian fishermen would come in completely sloshed and trash the place — meaning they couldn't follow the rules. (That American-turned-Japanese eventually got dumped by his Japanese wife and fucked off back to America, so he has an obvious bone to pick against Japan. Unreliable narrator with an agenda.)

The only place I've been turned away from was a bar that turned out to be members only. Anyone who cries DISCRIMINATION is usually unable to understand the nuance of "we don't speak English, so we are afraid we won't be able to help you."

Who is this man.?

 

[CWCchange]

I don't know where in the west non-binary people are commonly accepted.

It's not, but certain facets of media certainly want it that way. Either they will act like people care and/or accept it, or REEEEE they're oppressed 24/7 and anybody who says they might be a little crazy are Hitler.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Who is this man.?

A jap from cartoon child porn nippon

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Anyone who cries DISCRIMINATION is usually unable to understand the nuance of "we don't speak English, so we are afraid we won't be able to help you."

I should've known the accusations of discrimination and "ultra-conformity" were misinformation.

How long have you been there?

 

[Umaibae]

Who is this man.?

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Arudou_Debito

http://www.gregoryclark.net/page14/page14.html

I should've known the accusations of discrimination and "ultra-conformity" were misinformation.

How long have you been there?

Long enough to be able to spot clickbait bullshit or straight up Internet lies about the place.

 

[Human Institute Director]

A famous example of Japanese delusions abroad is "Paris syndrome," whereas tourists come to Paris thinking its a romantic high-class place, and experience culture shock when they realize it's a shithole.

That's not what the video says though, if anything the girl seems to appreciate it after she realises it's not like in her french cartoons. In truth, Paris isn't a great place to live, but for a lot of reasons.

 

[millais]

>capitalists 100 years ago
<old businessmen smoking cigars and investing in stocks
>capitalists now
<manchildren smoking weed, pulling out katanas on podcasts, and ERPing as catgirls online

elon musk was a mistake

 

[Eshettar]

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[yeahweknow]

 

[MysticMisty]

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