"But it's only a fantasy!" - Furry, Shota, Loli, [insert weird shit here]

[4000saladplates]

You won't get persecuted if you are 25 and you have sex with a 16 year old if the age of consent is 16

I think it depends on the state, but that's actually still illegal. For a lot of states, just because you're over the age of consent doesn't mean you can have sex with anyone. Take Texas for example; the age is consent is 17, but you can't have sex with someone more 3 years older if you are still under 18. It's one of those things where there's such a grey area that most laws are arbitrary.

 

[Professional iPad Hoarder]

It always starts with some shit like this, it's "just a drawing" until you see that some people that like that crap are actual pedos or rapists the argument falls flat

 

[Slap47]

until you see that some people that like that crap are actual pedos or rapists the argument falls flat

Dunno,

It's kinda the equivalent of an FPS player shooting up their school. Is there a connection? Hard to know.

Perhaps they like the because they're interested in the harmful thing.

 

[Rev]

Im not sure if anyone cares about this thread anymore, but I do want to add one more thing-
drawings themselves cannot be good or bad, they are inanimate
its the fact that someone is someone is turned on by furry/loli
but the thing is about fetishes is that they are often phycological. People with rape fantasies (as in being raped) often have low self esteem. One thing I hear from furries is they often have difficulties dealing with people, so they become attached to anthro animals , its more about escapism (a lot of furries become furries before they even develop sexual feelings). And pedos are often abuse victims themselves (similarly, people with rape fantasies (wanting to be the rapists) often have been sexually abused).
That being said, I really wish pedophilia would be treated as a mental illness, that way these people can get help dealing with the root of the issue.
And all this is not to excuse actual child molesters, those people are criminals.

TL;DR people with immoral fetish are often have had something traumatic happen to them and that fetish is their way of coping. Idk if its a healthy coping mechanism tho.

 

[Professional iPad Hoarder]

Dunno,

It's kinda the equivalent of an FPS player shooting up their school. Is there a connection? Hard to know.

Perhaps they like the because they're interested in the harmful thing.

I have to disagree, there are milions of FPS players around the world and just a few mass shooters here and there, most of people that play fps and violent games are not "exceptional individuals" but when you see someone into Loli/Shota etc and you investigate a little bit you'll find that a lot of people that like this things are "a little bit weird" this contrast is what makes me think like this, everyone that I personally met that told me that they liked Loli stuff were just like your regular weaboo and inocent but I won't trust them personally around little children

 

[Stock Photo James]

Usual argument is that it serves as substitute for real shit, suppressing people's paraphilias with shit that doesn't harm anyone but satisfies the itch.

That really hinges on whether such behavior can fully satisfy the need or it emboldens people by increasing their lust. And I don't think I'm knowledgeable to answer which is true.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Im not sure if anyone cares about this thread anymore, but I do want to add one more thing-
drawings themselves cannot be good or bad, they are inanimate
its the fact that someone is someone is turned on by furry/loli
but the thing is about fetishes is that they are often phycological. People with rape fantasies (as in being raped) often have low self esteem. One thing I hear from furries is they often have difficulties dealing with people, so they become attached to anthro animals , its more about escapism (a lot of furries become furries before they even develop sexual feelings). And pedos are often abuse victims themselves (similarly, people with rape fantasies (wanting to be the rapists) often have been sexually abused).
That being said, I really wish pedophilia would be treated as a mental illness, that way these people can get help dealing with the root of the issue.
And all this is not to excuse actual child molesters, those people are criminals.

TL;DR people with immoral fetish are often have had something traumatic happen to them and that fetish is their way of coping. Idk if its a healthy coping mechanism tho.

Pedophilia isn't treated as a mental illness because paraphilias are currently untreatable. You can try and deal with the fall out for wanting to fuck that blueberry chick from Willy Wonka and a therapist will take your money to talk about that, but they can't make you not want to fuck a giant round blue chick.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

I have to disagree, there are milions of FPS players around the world and just a few mass shooters here and there, most of people that play fps and violent games are not "exceptional individuals" but when you see someone into Loli/Shota etc and you investigate a little bit you'll find that a lot of people that like this things are "a little bit weird" this contrast is what makes me think like this, everyone that I personally met that told me that they liked Loli stuff were just like your regular weaboo and inocent but I won't trust them personally around little children

1. Learn to spell.
2. Your argument literally contradicts itself and boils down to "these people make my tummy feel weird, therefore we should ban their habits". This is literally barbarian reasoning.

 

[Snuckening]

"What do you guys make of the claim that it's acceptable to draw and otherwise "use" pornographic material that were it a photograph would be illegal.

I see no reason for such a distinction personally. "

Its marginally better (barely), but still unacceptably degenerate.

And all those names ("furry, loli, shota" etc) are just euphemisms for "pedo" and or "dog-fucker".

 

[ResidentHousepet]

In my experience with degenerates, people seem to kind of move from one socially unacceptable fetish to another fetish until they end up at x-treme fur/zoo/shota/loli/cp. Material is relatively easy to find to inexperienced tech-users, communities are relatively accessible and material is available in a wide variety of subcategories so you can really hyper-focus your fetish. Generation and distribution of content far outweighs police powers to keep up in most, if not all western civilizations so most people operate under the belief they will be unlikely to be apprehended for possessing or distributing said material and on those grounds it is far more likely that their fantasies/interests stay within the realm of the hypothetical, with very few people progressing into committing contact offenses. The problem continues to present itself when people actively displaying an interest continue an interest for an extended period of time, or their contact with other 'offenders' begins to encourage them into committing offences in the interest of sharing experiences, creating illicit material for personal use or for distribution with other 'community members'.

So considering all the above, I would go as far as to claim that the individuals in question who consume, produce and distribute the aforementioned content are likely to always have had a latent interest and have the capability to develop a fetish for it. Where this interest stems from is inherently irrelevant, although for the sake of clarity is commonly understood that these paraphillia' are either present with no apparent yet-understood cause or stem from childhood abuse or early exposure to sexual content. Whether or not these people claim that there is a difference does not cloud over the fact that the scenario depicted is intended to simulate a real life event and in that instance there is no defense for engaging the paraphillia. See a psychologist, before you end up going too far and can't come back. It should be noted that re-offending rates for Sex-Offenders committing further sexual offences is concerningly high, and on that note I really don't believe that most leopard's can change their spots.

Unrelated note: People posting this content forget that U18'S/U16's frequently visit porn sites, image-boards etc. and creating spaces for paedophile, and zoophiles to reach children still developing psychosexually under the lure of porn being forbidden and thus more kinky, is something that should be shut down without prejudice, exterminatus etc.

 

[The Great Chandler]

I'm fine with what they do. The only people I rather not hang out with are those who intend harm on other lives and property to fulfill whatever fantasy. Simple as that!
(But if I discovered you were a Nick Bates type, you're dead)

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Unrelated note: People posting this content forget that U18'S/U16's frequently visit porn sites, image-boards etc. and creating spaces for paedophile, and zoophiles to reach children still developing psychosexually under the lure of porn being forbidden and thus more kinky, is something that should be shut down without prejudice, exterminatus etc.

Of course no one on this site ever went to a porn site when they were too young to legally look at it. We're fine upstanding captains of industry

 

[VinRhe0]

Of course no one on this site ever went to a porn site when they were too young to legally look at it. We're fine upstanding captains of industry

We're all good boys who dindu nuffin.

Back to the topic at hand. If they're just into the art side of it and it never goes beyond that, then I could care less what they're into as long as there aren't any children/animals/people hurt or exploited for it. People have jacked it to much freakier shit than loli and shota drawings. If you can't separate reality and fantasy and end up hurting others with your degenerate habits then you need to be fucking glassed until your head resembles swiss cheese.

 

[s0mbra]

I can only comment from my own point of view.

But there are thing that get me off in purely fantasy setting, that when applied to any real world sceario make my stomach churn or am completely against (Or for the less deviant things, just plain not interested in outside fantasy)

The violent video game thing has already been brought up. Which I personally see no difference between that and porn.

I 100% understand being skeeved out by things and wanting to avoid them. That's fine and healthy. But the thing that concerns me is that people can't see the difference between fiction and realty, and that includes people who think certain types of porn or video games automatically create certain types of people.

Would furry or feral porn boarder on or be considered zoo? Or a subset of it? (Or loli being pedo) Probably. But in the end, who cares when it's nothing but a drawing and nobody is doing it, or interested in the irl aspect of it?

The people, in my opinion, who act on their desires would likely have done it without porn anyway. They are mentally broken. Always have been, always will be.

Meanwhile people like me just wanna schlick it to hot fanfiction then go about our day.

 

[Guts Gets Some]

If you judge someone based on something they've ever fapped to, then take a look in the mirror; your crimes are probably equally as bad, if not worse.

I say if it's not harmful to others (see: exploitative) and private, you're allowed to get off to whatever tickles your fancy.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

drawings themselves cannot be good or bad, they are inanimate

The intent behind them can be. Exhibit A) propaganda.

although for the sake of clarity is commonly understood that these paraphillia' are either present with no apparent yet-understood cause or stem from childhood abuse or early exposure to sexual content.

I disagree strongly since most of the deviant cows we cover here have never had these experiences. Some of them claim to, such as ADF, but they can't be substantiated since his story always changes with the political weather, then you'd have to explain how and why his taste for BDSM stems from his alleged sexual child abuse. I also believe what you described is in itself an unsubstantiated psychological model as well, so there's that.

Of course no one on this site ever went to a porn site when they were too young to legally look at it. We're fine upstanding captains of industry

There's also no guarantee that such an experience would make you a degenerate, either.

 

[I am a nigger]

It may be fantasy, but it's degenerate. /thread

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Relevant

 

[PorcupineTree]

Several cows here are evidence that loli and zoophilia porn are not effective in preventing consumers from going after the real thing.

I don’t get why this is even a common argument. Wouldn’t fantasizing about the act increase its chances of happening?

Stop crying and just jack off to something legal jfc.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Wouldn’t fantasizing about the act increase its chances of happening?

What about when the thing being fantasized about is a literal impossibility, like heart porn?