EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
How right or far-right are these protests anyway? They've been called a "white working-class revolt" and there's claims that the protesters are demanding a stop to immigration.

As right as the crowd is.

It's a general fuck Macron protest now, that's how terrible he's been for the French working class.
 

Okay so basically, here’s the summary of today.

I’ve been at the Champs Elysées since about 7am. The police were methodically searching everyone and blocking crowds of people from entering the zone. There were 1-2k protestors on the Champs themselves tops, and all of them were searched, and their gas masks, goggles, and anything that could be used to defend themselves was confiscated.

Then the police blocked the exits and entrances to the avenue, so you were just stuck going up and down for hours. It was fairly peaceful except some cucks that tried to break down the plywood from a shop. They got arrested pretty quick.
The protest was peaceful. I’d like to reiterate that. The protesters on the Champs weren’t violent, but the police teargased them for the lulz. I got teargased myself around noon for literally nothing. Anyways.

Since the army was stopping people from coming and leaving the Avenue, the protesters that couldn’t make it there started rioting on neighbouring streets - Faubourg St Honoré, av. Friedland, Gare St. Lazare etc.
We could hear the explosions and see the smoke from the Champs-Elysées, but none of us could leave.
And yet the armed forces still didn’t get redispatched where there was actual rioting, and instead stayed on the Avenue, which was peaceful and boring.

Around 4pm, after fucking 9 hours of being stuck on that street, I finally made it out by asking a policeman nicely and telling him my mother was sick in the hospital etc. (They were only letting in and out law enforcement or else people with press cards).

So, I went north east to check what was going on, and that’s where the fun began. It was really similar to last Saturday - cars were burning, shop windows were being broken, shit was looted. The police used water cannons against protesters, but it didn’t help.

I went around the 8th district for awhile and left around 7pm since it wasn’t safe anymore. At least not for a girl alone. I mean, there were more and more “racailles”, it’s like Arab / Black people from the poor suburbs of Paris that were looting shit and trying to get me to “join them for some fun”, so yeah.

Here’s a few pics from the events.

Also, what’s important to note is that most of the press and media coverage was centered around the Champs-Elysées, where the protest was highly regulated and peaceful, with the exception of a couple of smoke grenades.

All the looting and rioting happened everywhere else, while the army didn’t do shit.

Sorry for that essay, but that’s basically what happened.
As of this moment, protesters have been thrown out of the Champs-Elysées by anti infantry vehicles and the army, and the police is now focusing on stopping the rest of Paris from burning once again.

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Oh and there was a molotov thrown like 10m away from me, which was probably one of the scariest things in my life. I swear to God I bolted so fast.
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As right as the crowd is.

It's a general fuck Macron protest now, that's how terrible he's been for the French working class.

Not just the working classes either. He's basically stuck the boot into anyone not part of the Parisian metropolitan élites and big business. It should be noted that despite its crowing about "liberté, éfalité, fraternité," French society is very class riven. If you are of the élites, you go to a school like Lycée Henri IV or Louis le Grand where, despite being run by the French state, the teachers and so forth are all headhunted from amongst the best in the country, they have links to places like ENA and HEC and the Polytechnique and other "grands écoles" (the top end graduate schools that a degree from gets you pretty much a golden ticket to a top job in French business or politics), and even do cram schools after le bac to help you get in there. You will sit on the benches next to other scions of the élite upon where you will be able to call on them for a favour. Oh, and favours will be traded to get young Aurélie or Francois into same.

(In 1995, at the heart of the Credit Lyonnais scandal, the bank's boss rang up his old school mate to try to see if schoolmate would help him out of a sticky spot. Said schoolmate was Jacques Chirac, the King President of France. They were at Louis le Grand together in the sixties.)

Meanwhile, normies will go to their local lycée which is prescribed for them according to where they live thanks to the "carte scolaire." Parents have no choice in the matter. As such, it entrenches the very class divisions it is intended to wipe out. If they are lucky they'll be a good school run by people who care and are competent. If they are unlucky, or live somewhere shite, they will go to a sink school where, because of the incompetence of those in charge, even if they want to learn they won't be able to because their compatriots spend all the classes acting like howler monkeys.

Also, everyone in France outside of Paris hates the Parisians for their snobbery and disdainfulness. Parisians are snobs even by French standards.

Meanwhile, they have the temerity to make jokes about how "les rosbifs" are "assujettis" to "Sa Majesté." I tell you this, despite the Blob in our own educational system, and despite everything else, we have more social mobility than they ever did.
 
Okay so basically, here’s the summary of today.

I’ve been at the Champs Elysées since about 7am. The police were methodically searching everyone and blocking crowds of people from entering the zone. There were 1-2k protestors on the Champs themselves tops, and all of them were searched, and their gas masks, goggles, and anything that could be used to defend themselves was confiscated.

Then the police blocked the exits and entrances to the avenue, so you were just stuck going up and down for hours. It was fairly peaceful except some cucks that tried to break down the plywood from a shop. They got arrested pretty quick.
The protest was peaceful. I’d like to reiterate that. The protesters on the Champs weren’t violent, but the police teargased them for the lulz. I got teargased myself around noon for literally nothing. Anyways.

Since the army was stopping people from coming and leaving the Avenue, the protesters that couldn’t make it there started rioting on neighbouring streets - Faubourg St Honoré, av. Friedland, Gare St. Lazare etc.
We could hear the explosions and see the smoke from the Champs-Elysées, but none of us could leave.
And yet the armed forces still didn’t get redispatched where there was actual rioting, and instead stayed on the Avenue, which was peaceful and boring.

Around 4pm, after fucking 9 hours of being stuck on that street, I finally made it out by asking a policeman nicely and telling him my mother was sick in the hospital etc. (They were only letting in and out law enforcement or else people with press cards).

So, I went north east to check what was going on, and that’s where the fun began. It was really similar to last Saturday - cars were burning, shop windows were being broken, shit was looted. The police used water cannons against protesters, but it didn’t help.

I went around the 8th district for awhile and left around 7pm since it wasn’t safe anymore. At least not for a girl alone. I mean, there were more and more “racailles”, it’s like Arab / Black people from the poor suburbs of Paris that were looting shit and trying to get me to “join them for some fun”, so yeah.

Here’s a few pics from the events.

Also, what’s important to note is that most of the press and media coverage was centered around the Champs-Elysées, where the protest was highly regulated and peaceful, with the exception of a couple of smoke grenades.

All the looting and rioting happened everywhere else, while the army didn’t do shit.

Sorry for that essay, but that’s basically what happened.
As of this moment, protesters have been thrown out of the Champs-Elysées by anti infantry vehicles and the army, and the police is now focusing on stopping the rest of Paris from burning once again.

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Oh and there was a molotov thrown like 10m away from me, which was probably one of the scariest things in my life. I swear to God I bolted so fast.
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Neat :)

Stay safe if you go to any future demonstrations.
 
Not just the working classes either. He's basically stuck the boot into anyone not part of the Parisian metropolitan élites and big business. It should be noted that despite its crowing about "liberté, éfalité, fraternité," French society is very class riven. If you are of the élites, you go to a school like Lycée Henri IV or Louis le Grand where, despite being run by the French state, the teachers and so forth are all headhunted from amongst the best in the country, they have links to places like ENA and HEC and the Polytechnique and other "grands écoles" (the top end graduate schools that a degree from gets you pretty much a golden ticket to a top job in French business or politics), and even do cram schools after le bac to help you get in there. You will sit on the benches next to other scions of the élite upon where you will be able to call on them for a favour. Oh, and favours will be traded to get young Aurélie or Francois into same.

(In 1995, at the heart of the Credit Lyonnais scandal, the bank's boss rang up his old school mate to try to see if schoolmate would help him out of a sticky spot. Said schoolmate was Jacques Chirac, the King President of France. They were at Louis le Grand together in the sixties.)

Meanwhile, normies will go to their local lycée which is prescribed for them according to where they live thanks to the "carte scolaire." Parents have no choice in the matter. As such, it entrenches the very class divisions it is intended to wipe out. If they are lucky they'll be a good school run by people who care and are competent. If they are unlucky, or live somewhere shite, they will go to a sink school where, because of the incompetence of those in charge, even if they want to learn they won't be able to because their compatriots spend all the classes acting like howler monkeys.

Also, everyone in France outside of Paris hates the Parisians for their snobbery and disdainfulness. Parisians are snobs even by French standards.

Meanwhile, they have the temerity to make jokes about how "les rosbifs" are "assujettis" to "Sa Majesté." I tell you this, despite the Blob in our own educational system, and despite everything else, we have more social mobility than they ever did.


Hey, “Parisian Elites” are in there too. Finished the Henri IV prépa as did most of my friends, and yet the support for the Gilets Jaunes is pretty high among my demographic.

And I agree with everything you said otherwise. Good schools and networking really make or break your future in France.

At least Russia’s flat out corrupt. Here, you have to suck so much metaphorical dick to get by, but the end result’s the same.
 
Not just the working classes either. He's basically stuck the boot into anyone not part of the Parisian metropolitan élites and big business. It should be noted that despite its crowing about "liberté, éfalité, fraternité," French society is very class riven. If you are of the élites, you go to a school like Lycée Henri IV or Louis le Grand where, despite being run by the French state, the teachers and so forth are all headhunted from amongst the best in the country, they have links to places like ENA and HEC and the Polytechnique and other "grands écoles" (the top end graduate schools that a degree from gets you pretty much a golden ticket to a top job in French business or politics), and even do cram schools after le bac to help you get in there. You will sit on the benches next to other scions of the élite upon where you will be able to call on them for a favour. Oh, and favours will be traded to get young Aurélie or Francois into same.

(In 1995, at the heart of the Credit Lyonnais scandal, the bank's boss rang up his old school mate to try to see if schoolmate would help him out of a sticky spot. Said schoolmate was Jacques Chirac, the King President of France. They were at Louis le Grand together in the sixties.)

Meanwhile, normies will go to their local lycée which is prescribed for them according to where they live thanks to the "carte scolaire." Parents have no choice in the matter. As such, it entrenches the very class divisions it is intended to wipe out. If they are lucky they'll be a good school run by people who care and are competent. If they are unlucky, or live somewhere shite, they will go to a sink school where, because of the incompetence of those in charge, even if they want to learn they won't be able to because their compatriots spend all the classes acting like howler monkeys.

Also, everyone in France outside of Paris hates the Parisians for their snobbery and disdainfulness. Parisians are snobs even by French standards.

Meanwhile, they have the temerity to make jokes about how "les rosbifs" are "assujettis" to "Sa Majesté." I tell you this, despite the Blob in our own educational system, and despite everything else, we have more social mobility than they ever did.
Is it just me or society in France really remind of 1789, i swear the amounts of similarityies/parallels is scary?

What are the odds and numbers that will obey or refuse to shoot if Macron goes full Louis XVI?
 
Is it just me or society in France really remind of 1789, i swear the amounts of similarityies/parallels is scary?

What are the odds and numbers that will obey or refuse to shoot if Macron goes full Louis XVI?

Depends. Macron promised the army and the police a Christmas bonus, and well money talks. But on the other hand, some policemen are sympathetic to the movement.

Macron will make a national address on Monday evening, and beyond that I guess we’ll see.
Either way, while he has the support of the army and the police, Macron won’t fall or step down.
 
Average citizens with jobs and not professional activist red diaper babies are rioting in the capital city of a nation with a leader said to be the future of The West or whatever decadent neo-liberal garbage the mainstream media made up, can you say le whoops. The protests aren't limited to Paree either.

Jou
can tell that ze protests are authentic and not a sponsored color revolution because firstly, outlets like the NYT or Washington Post haven't ran a cover on some little fille who was gassed by evil Macron and his dictator superhenchmen and secondly because the media isn't covering it. Or rather, what coverage there has been have been pieces like this from Max Bootlicker where he cries about being "trolled" by mean people online for the mere crime of being an idiot.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/08/france-online-extremists-put-centrism-torch/


The trolls who flamed me are transparently rooting for Macron’s failure. Their slogan might as well be: Burn, baby, burn.

I remain an admirer of Macron and would still love to see an “American Macron” — a centrist who can win power in Washington. But his struggles are a reminder of how hard it is to be in the middle of the road in the polarized social-media world of today.


"Russia is an omniscient, evil force constantly duping people into believing they have genuine grievances with the powers that be who maintain the status quo. France has no tradition of popular uprising against ruling elites, and everything would be quiet if not for Russkie dirty tricks. Please pay me lots of money to be a foreign affairs analyst."
 
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You aren't middle of the road when you're approval rate is like, what? 15%?

And who are those deluded people? 5% of it is probably the globalist elite who think tear-gassing the poor is how the world should work, but the other 10%, what are they smoking and where can I get some?
 
You aren't middle of the road when you're approval rate is like, what? 15%?

And who are those deluded people? 5% of it is probably the globalist elite who think tear-gassing the poor is how the world should work, but the other 10%, what are they smoking and where can I get some?
Families of the government members and part of the police and army?
 
Today in Canada we also have been seeing the Yellow Vests making their presence known.

Right in Edmonton:
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Meanwhile in Ottawa, Antifa wasted no time in trying to disrupt the protest which is against the United Nation’s Migration Pact: https://www.thepostmillennial.com/a...uDS0KXyY9hZYUyXKasNWcFSQQJwmxORgR2WWYZtazR6wk

Forgot to add they’re also outlawing using yellow vests for protesting due to recent events in France.
 
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