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It's too late, though. Doesn't matter how young she is, she has in her chart "incapable of lying down. has to sleep sitting up"

No surgeorn in the world would touch her after reading that, not to mention everything else wrong with her. Not even Dr. Now would touch her because she can't fucking lose ANY weight.

e: Honestly I don't know why the surgery talk continues. Amberlynn refuses to even have bloodwork done. She is never fucking having surgery.
 
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SAVE TWINKIE! said:
e: Honestly I don't know why the surgery talk continues. Amberlynn refuses to even have bloodwork done. She is never fucking having surgery.
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Guess it's the :optimistic: side of people. That's okay. I'd rather have optimistic people that a-logs and pessimists. I think there's still talk of the surgery since it's almost like the only hail mary at this point, and it's no fun to see someone with no chances to win just lay down and die.

I DO think there's a chance she gets healthy. This is what it has to happen. Next year, she'd have to have a near-death incident. Probably pneumonia. (That's my serious prediction for 2019). IF she manages to recover, she'd have lost a lot of weight from not eating (like most people after getting hospitalized), and the experience would be a wake up call. But having to go near-death to lose weight is stupid.
 
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Guess it's the :optimistic: side of people. That's okay. I'd rather have optimistic people that a-logs and pessimists. I think there's still talk of the surgery since it's almost like the only hail mary at this point, and it's no fun to see someone with no chances to win just lay down and die.

I DO think there's a chance she gets healthy. This is what it has to happen. Next year, she'd have to have a near-death incident. Probably pneumonia. (That's my serious prediction for 2019). IF she manages to recover, she'd have lost a lot of weight from not eating (like most people after getting hospitalized), and the experience would be a wake up call. But having to go near-death to lose weight is stupid.
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I dunno, man. She keeps getting these wake up calls (not being able to walk 30 feet, not fitting into chairs, literally physically exhausted from standing for 15 minutes, plus sleep apnea, loss of circulation, and hypertension all diagnosed in one fell swoop) and hitting the snooze button (she's fundamentally healthy and these serious medical conditions are mostly just inconveniences -- reversible ones, at that).

I think the surgery ship sailed about 200 lbs ago and everyone on this forum wishing on stars isn't going to bring it back to port. That said, I agree that's really why people keep bringing it up -- it feels like there needs to be some kind of third act redemption arc here, but...
 
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A hallmark of binge eating disorder is loss of control during an episode flanked on each side by normal eating. By definition, you can't plan a fucking binge. By definition, you have to eat regular amounts of food normally punctuated by episodes of binging. I think she'll acknowledge this the same time she'll acknowledge that she is not healthy. ie never
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Except other sites, eg. https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/types/binge-eating-disorder, state that binges may be planned like a ritual and may involve special foods. Nowhere in the link you gave does it specify you have to eat regular amounts of food - you could overreat generally, then also binge, which is probably what AL does.

"Loss of control" does not mean you turn into a complete wreck and can't function. It means you lose some control over decision-making and do blatantly unhealthy things. For example, you might give in to the urge to binge and go clear out an aisle in the store. You can drive the car, buy the food, get it into the house. But it might feel like you can't pick exactly what food you're buying or that you can't eat it fast enough/can't stop eating it.

I don't understand why people struggle to accept she might have BED. (Although she definitely overeats in general, too). We diagnose all manner of other things with her mental health, but this is where the line is drawn?

I'll add that even if she does have BED I think she could lose weight while still binging 2-3 times a week, because her TDEE is so insanely high. So I don't think it's a valid excuse for her situation. But it is one of the only things she claims about her health that I believe.
 
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Except other sites, eg. https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/types/binge-eating-disorder, state that binges may be planned like a ritual and may involve special foods. Nowhere in the link you gave does it specify you have to eat regular amounts of food - you could overreat generally, then also binge, which is probably what AL does.

"Loss of control" does not mean you turn into a complete wreck and can't function. It means you lose some control over decision-making and do blatantly unhealthy things. For example, you might give in to the urge to binge and go clear out an aisle in the store. You can drive the car, buy the food, get it into the house. But it might feel like you can't pick exactly what food you're buying or that you can't eat it fast enough/can't stop eating it.

I don't understand why people struggle to accept she might have BED. (Although she definitely overeats in general, too). We diagnose all manner of other things with her mental health, but this is where the line is drawn?

I'll add that even if she does have BED I think she could lose weight while still binging 2-3 times a week, because her TDEE is so insanely high. So I don't think it's a valid excuse for her situation. But it is one of the only things she claims about her health that I believe.
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Comparing AL's behaviors to the DSM-5 criteria for BED is hard because we try to filter her behavior through a therapeutic definition that few of us are qualified to interpret. Where it all falls apart for me is trying to figure out what Amber thinks is a binge. She describes the binge monster making her eat a carton of ice cream, a family bag of chips and some candy. But she also routinely eats 2000 calories or more per meal. At what point does her compulsive overeating stop and the binge begin? When someone eats as much as she does every meal, every day, that binge she claims is not that much more food or even calories compared to her regular fare. If anyone ever finds the switch over, when AL goes from gorging to bingeing, document that shit.

But it's also important to note that we're all spitballing here. And we're doing it based on Amber's self-reporting, which is often inconsistent or full of outright lies. She doesn't seem to have the need for privacy to avoid shame, but she could be locking herself in the bathroom and eating after the boys go to bed and so Becky can't see her, which seems unlikely but is still possible. She could be full of extreme self-loathing afterward and doesn't speak about it. She could be making herself sick with each binge, eating to the point of pain, and not report it or more likely she has stretched her stomach out over the years and she doesn't get the painful bloat most typical BED sufferers have after a binge. But at the end of it all, AL eats so much every single day that it's hard to define a binge for her.

In the end it doesn't really matter because the only real dx that suits Amber at this point is "lol ur fucked." BED, compulsive overeating, fatbitchitis - she's a remorseless eating machine.
 
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Comparing AL's behaviors to the DSM-5 criteria for BED is hard because we try to filter her behavior through a therapeutic definition that few of us are qualified to interpret. Where it all falls apart for me is trying to figure out what Amber thinks is a binge. She describes the binge monster making her eat a carton of ice cream, a family bag of chips and some candy. But she also routinely eats 2000 calories or more per meal. At what point does her compulsive overeating stop and the binge begin? When someone eats as much as she does every meal, every day, that binge she claims is not that much more food or even calories compared to her regular fare. If anyone ever finds the switch over, when AL goes from gorging to bingeing, document that shit.

But it's also important to note that we're all spitballing here. And we're doing it based on Amber's self-reporting, which is often inconsistent or full of outright lies. She doesn't seem to have the need for privacy to avoid shame, but she could be locking herself in the bathroom and eating after the boys go to bed and so Becky can't see her, which seems unlikely but is still possible. She could be full of extreme self-loathing afterward and doesn't speak about it. She could be making herself sick with each binge, eating to the point of pain, and not report it or more likely she has stretched her stomach out over the years and she doesn't get the painful bloat most typical BED sufferers have after a binge. But at the end of it all, AL eats so much every single day that it's hard to define a binge for her.

In the end it doesn't really matter because the only real dx that suits Amber at this point is "lol ur fucked." BED, compulsive overeating, fatbitchitis - she's a remorseless eating machine.
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Spot on. And at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what AL diagnoses herself with, what we diagnose her with or a professional has diagnosed her with if she won’t do shit about it. And if she won’t get some help and introspection, her ultimate and final dx is that she is FUCKED.

Fin.
 
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Dog Prom 3D said:
Comparing AL's behaviors to the DSM-5 criteria for BED is hard because we try to filter her behavior through a therapeutic definition that few of us are qualified to interpret. Where it all falls apart for me is trying to figure out what Amber thinks is a binge. She describes the binge monster making her eat a carton of ice cream, a family bag of chips and some candy. But she also routinely eats 2000 calories or more per meal. At what point does her compulsive overeating stop and the binge begin? When someone eats as much as she does every meal, every day, that binge she claims is not that much more food or even calories compared to her regular fare. If anyone ever finds the switch over, when AL goes from gorging to bingeing, document that shit.

But it's also important to note that we're all spitballing here. And we're doing it based on Amber's self-reporting, which is often inconsistent or full of outright lies. She doesn't seem to have the need for privacy to avoid shame, but she could be locking herself in the bathroom and eating after the boys go to bed and so Becky can't see her, which seems unlikely but is still possible. She could be full of extreme self-loathing afterward and doesn't speak about it. She could be making herself sick with each binge, eating to the point of pain, and not report it or more likely she has stretched her stomach out over the years and she doesn't get the painful bloat most typical BED sufferers have after a binge. But at the end of it all, AL eats so much every single day that it's hard to define a binge for her.

In the end it doesn't really matter because the only real dx that suits Amber at this point is "lol ur fucked." BED, compulsive overeating, fatbitchitis - she's a remorseless eating machine.
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You did a much better job of explaining my point than I did. BED is the same as Lexapro, same as Amberlynn's childhood, same as the foster care system, the same as her breakups -- it's another thing she blames so she can take absolutely zero responsibility over her life. It's a form of denial, self preservation, etc.

Anyone else notice how she says she "suffers from" depression/anxiety/insomnia/etc.? Holy victim speak. Even if all these claims are true, she's nearly 30. She needs to stop blaming the world and take ownership over her own life.

Just close your eyes and imagine being Amberlynn for a moment. It would be so overwhelming, so upsetting. I would do anything to not live her life. And yet there she is, sinking just a little deeper every single day despite knowing better.

ETA: the conscious/mindful self-sabotage is the reason it's hard to empathize with her.
 
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@Malibougie - I'd forgotten this gem!

3.54ish....am I really slow*or did we pick up "heart palpUTations" before? I know this is ultra-snarky but don't people who are really getting serious health problems know how to say them? Unlike bone idle numpties who find sitting for a while eight hours incredibly taxing and need to make it sound in-cru-HED-dibly imoortant.

And how come she had heart palputayshuns then but now, 100lbs or so later, is the glowing picture of health? Must be true, the World's Best Doctor sang said it.

Gorl making dramatic shit up to evade accountability as she goes along? Never!


*Psssst. I'm not really Tiny Clanger. I'm the missing link on the Clanger family tree, the one they don't acknowledge publicly as I sit in the corner, play with mud and dribble.
 
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About the new poll. How ‘bout a “she’s already been diagnosed “ option, because I refuse to believe that - a) at her size her doctor didn’t insist she be tested the first time she waddled her big ass into their office & b) with all of her symptoms, the most recent being reoccurring sty’s, nobody in her life has made the connection & mentioned it to her. I know they’re all backwards & shit, but nobody is that stupid!! Sorry. I just read the “admit to being diagnosed”. Maybe I’m the backwards one!!
 
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There's something going on. Her face looks much, much rounder in the most recent video.

If she's actually taking hypertension medication, she would have lost all of her beloved "water weight". So, either the state of her health has changed recently or she has been eating much more than usual, which I'm unsure is possible.
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I've always been kinda "Yeah, sure, whatever" when people say that she looks visibly fatter in a video. In the past two videos, however, I actually, truly see it as well. I think you're right ... something's going on.
 
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She’s been especially nasty and snappy lately even to well wishers, I’m wondering if she’s lashing out because of the pain her body is in - a lot of old people become cranky as their body’s begin to ache with age and with how exhausted and bloated her body is looking lately I’m willing to bet that she in terrible pain.

Either that or her new subscriber count has made her MORE of a stick up bitch
 
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Silver Surfer said:
There's something going on. Her face looks much, much rounder in the most recent video.

If she's actually taking hypertension medication, she would have lost all of her beloved "water weight". So, either the state of her health has changed recently or she has been eating much more than usual, which I'm unsure is possible.
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Her usual response to having an unusual amount of water retention is because she had a big binge the night before.
 
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I don’t know a thing about high blood pressure meds, but AL said her doc put her on one for her “slightly high” bp.

Aren’t diruretics (water pills) usually the first line of treatment ? And aren’t those usually supposed to rid your body of water retention? So if we believe AL went to the Dr, which I doubted and now I doubt even more as her diagnosis’ change, why is she retaining so much water weight stilll if she is on the meds?

Let’s see

Diagnosed for sleep apnea without a sleep study or a referral to have one to get an rx for a CPAP.

No longer is losing circulation in her leg- which has been painful for months- it’s just a pulled muscle now. Wouldn’t a doc need to do an u/s to find that out and then refer to a vascular specialist?

Still retaining enough water to make her look like the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man after given meds and probably told to stick to a low sodium diet.

Has not mentioned her doctor’s office weight loss challenge that she should weight to start in the New Year, which she was so touched she was moved to tears.

Something smells here. Could just be AL, but I think it’s all a bunch of BS too.

It’s ok honey boo boo, fuck the health care and insurance you want a new phone
 
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