Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

[Haunter]

What is this?

https://twitter.com/Lipjann/status/1081743472338653194

@Prince Lotor linked to it above, yesterday (I think it was originally posted here by @ReentryPhantom). I wasn't the only one that didn't remember it, which is how it was brought up.

With "snicker_licker_1" claiming to have just discovered this, and now Lipjann, I'd say this passed a lot of people by :/

 

[Prince Lotor]

Sure, I was being kind of lazy
Here's a link to the original post with an image of the case numbers, dates, and legal actions; from the '2018-7-29 New Kat Lore' thread. Here's a link to my post from that thread explaining what I had found the legal action terms mean, especially in conjunction like that.

The 'Hair Trick' videos in her old boyfriends car were posted on Youtube 11 months, and 14 months after this incident in 2013.

What is this?

https://twitter.com/Lipjann/status/1081743472338653194

That's the Twitterfags talking about shit I was just talking about. That shit's 4½ months old news and they're pretending like it's some steaming fresh find.

Apologies if any Kiwi's are Twitterfags, I abhor "social media". Kiwi Farms is my only social media account. It's a personal bias and I don't think less of you

ETA: @Haunter It was posted the day after Tevin's video, inbetween a post that Subaru Man was willing to have a Q&A Kiwi thread and the reports of 50 to 75 autistic PM's annoying the fuck out of him so he closed his Facebook and wanted nothing to do with the cancer-aids, so it pretty much went unnoticed.

 

[JackDavis]

That's the Twitterfags talking about shit I was just talking about. That shit's 4½ months old news and they're pretending like it's some steaming fresh find.

"Kiwifags" were talking about tophaters.com just last week and that shit's 15 years old news and pretending like it's some steaming fresh find.

People forget things. Talking about things, even if they've already been talked about is part of being a serious adult human.

 

[LyteSydeByll]

Seeing this again made me think of something. Phil revealed during his State of the Stream "podcast" where he asked for $16,000 that he can't ask Kat for any money because she has her own debts to take care of. Is it any stretch to think he could have been referring to this?

 

[James Smith]

I put the forcible entry stuff in the OP.

Where can I find the lien screenshotted?
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Here's some candy:

In 2010 a petition was filed in a Michigan probate court to order Kat to obtain treatment for mental health reasons.

https://www.co.jackson.mi.us/597/Court-Records case number 10011942
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Here's some more:

In 2011 Kat was convicted of driving without proof of a license.

https://www.co.jackson.mi.us/597/Court-Records case number 11JC47509A

Note: this confirms her (already known) birth date.

 

[N0thingICanDo]

She's a ticking time bomb. Anyone who's dealt with people with mental issues know this. IF DSP ever gets in a fight with her shit could go off. I remember when I got in a fight with a bi polar gf. She turned into a different person.

Give the known history of Kat from her childhood things wont go well, probably ends up with this...........

or

 

[grump]

Kat voluntarily committed herself into an inpatient mental health institution after someone asked a judge to order her to. See the Kat Speculation thread.

Everyday we appreciate just a little more how badly Phil fucked up letting Panda go.

 

[Sparkletor]

Has anyone noticed Phil doesn't label his haters as mentally ill anymore? He sometimes almost says it but changes it like mentally koo koo or mentally dumb.

I think Kat told him to knock that off along with the jokes about titties.

 

[PieceofShet]

Has anyone noticed Phil doesn't label his haters as mentally ill anymore? He sometimes almost says it but changes it like mentally koo koo or mentally dumb.

I think Kat told him to knock that off along with the jokes about titties.

I think its been like that since the leanna emERgency video. Maybe he went back since but I remember after that, he did not use it for a while.

 

[Noob-Noob]

Kat voluntarily committed herself into an inpatient mental health institution after someone asked a judge to order her to. See the Kat Speculation thread.

I wonder if Phil actually uses his favorite term, "fucked in the head" when talking to Kat about the detractors.

Now we know that could be really triggering to her.

HOLY SHIT. What if she never told him about this at all?? Remember on stream where he asked her the question from the troll cheer about, "liking movies about demon possession" in the most nonchalant tone?!

There is no way he knows any of the shit we do.

I mean...except for the fact that she was dating another guy while he was seeing her. lol

 

[grump]

I wonder if Phil actually uses his favorite term, "fucked in the head" when talking to Kat about the detractors.

Now we know that could be really triggering to her.

HOLY SHIT. What if she never told him about this at all?? Remember on stream where he asked her the question from the troll cheer about, "liking movies about demon possession" in the most nonchalant tone!

There is no way he knows any of the shit we do.

I mean...except for the fact that she was dating another guy while he was seeing her. lol

If you read between the lines he's practically been telling us this everytime he talks about her. Everytime he talks about Kat or about how evil detractors are bugging her he talks about her as if she's some sort of unbalanced child rocking back and forth in the corner. I'm betting he knows at least partially but was so desperate to acquire another trophy after losing Panda and in characteristic Phil fashion, spin a 'snippet of truth' into a weapon against his enemies.

 

[Sparkletor]

I think its been like that since the leanna emERgency video. Maybe he went back since but I remember after that, he did not use it for a while.

He used it long after Leanna. He said I was mentally ill and needed to go to a hospital and get electroshock therapy for contacting his school.

 

[KingjadVCMP]

Least we have confirmed that any woman would need to be mentally challenged to be with Phil Burnell. Just give Kat a pill and leave her at the side of the road.

 

[rizlajizzla]

I am gonna get smacked in the head...

1. but, as of yet, Kat is still not a lolcow. (This may change in the blink of an eye. But.)
2. about 47% of comments about her are just classic, hunny-mussy smudged, virgin incel 'women are evil' bullshit of the cheesiest level.
3. Still not a lolcow...

Having said that... yeah, poor dumplin'. Mental health care in the US is just a crying shame. It's not much better here in Soviet Europe, but at least my wellbutrin is free and when we have a tizzy & get took to A&E, there is no bill, so our husbands let them treat us instead of leaving us by the side of the road somewhere.

Phil has, since she moved in, been using 'therapy talk' for a while now. There has to be a connection, there. He gurgles out little snippets of self-help gibberish now and then.

(If I have missed something, and she is like, I dunno, going on 2am twitter rants, my bad. Otherwise.... holding steady on not a fucking lolcow...)

 

[gin_nose]

I am gonna get smacked in the head...

1. but, as of yet, Kat is still not a lolcow. (This may change in the blink of an eye. But.)
2. about 47% of comments about her are just classic, hunny-mussy smudged, virgin incel 'women are evil' bullshit of the cheesiest level.
3. Still not a lolcow...

Having said that... yeah, poor dumplin'. Mental health care in the US is just a crying shame. It's not much better here in Soviet Europe, but at least my wellbutrin is free and when we have a tizzy & get took to A&E, there is no bill, so our husbands let them treat us instead of leaving us by the side of the road somewhere.

Phil has, since she moved in, been using 'therapy talk' for a while now. There has to be a connection, there. He gurgles out little snippets of self-help gibberish now and then.

(If I have missed something, and she is like, I dunno, going on 2am twitter rants, my bad. Otherwise.... holding steady on not a fucking lolcow...)

Kat is a girl who has a history of demon possession in her family, involuntary commitments to mental hospitals, and who cheated on a Suburu guy after doing hair trick videos with DarkSydePhil arguably one of the biggest lolcows on the internet. She then joined in his scam and set herself up at Gout mansion and appeared on his streams and parroted his bullshit. she is mentioned on his streams on a regular basis. its likely she is giving him ideas and helping him to improve his grifting. if she is a lolcow or not she is quite far enough into the dsp autism gravity well that she deserves a thread.

i havent seen these incel women are evil comments on here at all, ive seen people researching her, speculating on her and discussing her in how she relates to the DSP universe. i have to disagree with that statement.

and yes i agree, its clear to me also that kat has had experience in a professional mental health setting, she has used some of what she was taught in therapy to help phil many times now. she has kept him from fucking up bigger on many occasions imo. even more reason there is good reason to have interest in her.

ps. considering what we now know, the level of stress she is going through between phil making her work all these hours to pay his bills (or hers) and all the stress from the attention she is getting by detractors it seems its only a matter of time she is going to have another break from reality. i wonder if she is still in treatment in washington for her mental health issues or not, probably not. phil is going to be in for a wild fucking ride considering his reaction to leanna having a single panic attack at work.

 

[Autistsforuganda]

Watch him go on stream soon, saying that he broke up with her and that she left the house because "I DON'T NEED HER. STUPID LUNATIC CRAZY BIMBO BITCH, ACK ACK ACK"

 

[rizlajizzla]

Kat is a girl who has a history of demon possession in her family, involuntary commitments to mental hospitals, and who cheated on a Suburu guy after doing hair trick videos with DarkSydePhil arguably one of the biggest lolcows on the internet. She then joined in his scam and set herself up at Gout mansion and appeared on his streams and parroted his bullshit. she is mentioned on his streams on a regular basis. its likely she is giving him ideas and helping him to improve his grifting. if she is a lolcow or not she is quite far enough into the dsp autism gravity well that she deserves a thread.

i havent seen these incel women are evil comments on here at all, ive seen people researching her, speculating on her and discussing her in how she relates to the DSP universe. i have to disagree with that statement.

and yes i agree, its clear to me also that kat has had experience in a professional mental health setting, she has used some of what she was taught in therapy to help phil many times now. she has kept him from fucking up bigger on many occasions imo. even more reason there is good reason to have interest in her.

ps. considering what we now know, the level of stress she is going through between phil making her work all these hours to pay his bills (or hers) and all the stress from the attention she is getting by detractors it seems its only a matter of time she is going to have another break from reality. i wonder if she is still in treatment in washington for her mental health issues or not, probably not. phil is going to be in for a wild fucking ride considering his reaction to leanna having a single panic attack at work.

You make good points, and you make them well. I would add, however, she does not at present seek attention, and that, to me, is a large part of the concept.

The comments that irk me do usually get hate from many, but there is a lot of reducing women to either crazy, gold-diggers, or crazy gold-diggers. I WILL ADMIT that Kat very well may actually BE a crazy gold-digger, but the instant she came in, within hours, the good Geordi LaForges of the Farms were there with the diagnosis.

 

[Pargon]

You make good points, and you make them well. I would add, however, she does not at present seek attention, and that, to me, is a large part of the concept.

The comments that irk me do usually get hate from many, but there is a lot of reducing women to either crazy, gold-diggers, or crazy gold-diggers. I WILL ADMIT that Kat very well may actually BE a crazy gold-digger, but the instant she came in, within hours, the good Geordi LaForges of the Farms were there with the diagnosis.

To be fair to the women in DSP's life (the Lord be with them in their hour of need), Leanna was oft characterized as a gold-digger as well, and while that may have been on her mind at some point there was obviously a shift. She went out and found a job and many people myself included think that helped open her eyes to the situation she was in. Maybe she did do it as a last resort and for all I know she's riding some other dude for support now but given her generally quiet social media presence I doubt it.

I think what's coloring things against Kat more harshly is what we know about her recent past. She left her former relationship suddenly for Phil who, by his own admission, fashioned her with a number of lifestyle accoutrements before paying her way out to move in with him, and very well may have also foot the bill for all of her previous visits. Phil has told us that she contributes little, if at all, to the Basic Bills.

It's possible he's lying - acting as though he's paying for everything when he isn't would fit into the Fakest Macho Man on the Internet Theory, but we have a pretty concrete idea about how much Phil makes now, and with the few facts we have about what sort of job Kat has it'd make sense that she's not paying for much on her own. It's also possible that her former boyfriend is lying about how their relationship ended; he could have been a real prick and Kat skedaddled when she saw an opening.

I guess I'm saying that there are things which make Kat being a gold-digger a viable possibility. I'm not sure where I stand on it, myself; personally if the epilogue to the Escort Saga was that Phil was being taken for a ride even by his legitimate girlfriend, I'd laugh and laugh, and it'd be poetic, the scammer himself getting scammed. But I think it's also possible that she's a person with a troubled past who fell in with one of the worst options imaginable.

 

[rizlajizzla]

To be fair to the women in DSP's life (the Lord be with them in their hour of need), Leanna was oft characterized as a gold-digger as well, and while that may have been on her mind at some point there was obviously a shift. She went out and found a job and many people myself included think that helped open her eyes to the situation she was in. Maybe she did do it as a last resort and for all I know she's riding some other dude for support now but given her generally quiet social media presence I doubt it.

I think what's coloring things against Kat more harshly is what we know about her recent past. She left her former relationship suddenly for Phil who, by his own admission, fashioned her with a number of lifestyle accoutrements before paying her way out to move in with him, and very well may have also foot the bill for all of her previous visits. Phil has told us that she contributes little, if at all, to the Basic Bills.

It's possible he's lying - acting as though he's paying for everything when he isn't would fit into the Fakest Macho Man on the Internet Theory, but we have a pretty concrete idea about how much Phil makes now, and with the few facts we have about what sort of job Kat has it'd make sense that she's not paying for much on her own. It's also possible that her former boyfriend is lying about how their relationship ended; he could have been a real prick and Kat skedaddled when she saw an opening.

I guess I'm saying that there are things which make Kat being a gold-digger a viable possibility. I'm not sure where I stand on it, myself; personally if the epilogue to the Escort Saga was that Phil was being taken for a ride even by his legitimate girlfriend, I'd laugh and laugh, and it'd be poetic, the scammer himself getting scammed. But I think it's also possible that she's a person with a troubled past who fell in with one of the worst options imaginable.

Thank you for the nice juicy reply. Upon reflection, I think part of my reasoning is predicated on the idea that there is a significant difference between seeking sheckles and accepting them. I have a doubt now. There may not be. I need to think about that. My whole caveat about Kat is that we do not have enough of her first hand to know much at all, and I have been assuming the best. There may be more 'evidence ' in her actions that I don't see because of bias.

Oh my god, motherfuckers. You changed someone's opinion on the motherfucking internet. REfuckingSPECT.

 

[LiquidCancer]

Leanna was young. She might have seemed like a "gold digger" because she was with older man Phil since she was a teenager and really didn't open her eyes to the world until later.

Kat is a 28 year old from a broken home, a mother that was criminally insane, has several failed relationships, evictions, was forcibly hospitalized and has at least two "hair tricks" videos on YouTube. Phil got into a relationship with a "fan" based on her looks (supermodel lol) and that she was willing to cheat/leave her current boyfriend. He did no research and didn't even meet this person more than a handful of times before moving them into his Big Adult Home.


Shes like a horse caught in the headlights and as soon as Phil or someone else flicks the lights off she'll spook or attack, or something. There is no way this ends as nice as Leanna did.