Defeners/Le 90s Kids

[Abethedemon]

So there's a subreddit, /r/lewronggeneration that highlights the idiocies of people who wish that they were born in previous generations so that they could listen to Queen and the Beatles. They call these people defeners after a rage comic

These people are against "swagfags" and think that music went downhill in the 2000s.

http://www.reddit.com/r/lewronggeneration/
does anyone have experience with these people? They're all over Facebook.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

Utter bullshit. There is good music in all eras. Taste is subjective.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

Yet another case of someone taking a fair idea and turning it batshit. I think a very good point could be made that the music industry has done some things in the past 15 years that have made music less interesting. That isn't to say that good, inventive music has stopped, just that it doesn't get the focus it should.

But to think that you should have been born in a different generation, or that the music would "die" without you... Makes you an idiot.

 

[Shokew]

Sigh... These are the kinds of people that annoy me when it comes to musical tastes... Here's all I can say to this: "Just because I like something much more than your band of legend makes me an idiot? Huh??? Oh, fuck you and your sad excuse for taste, m8."

It doesn't help that there are people way younger than ourselves who likely think this mentality is OK, which only makes things worse.

 

[Peril]

That rage comic is the most not happening thing that never happened. This just seems like a case of greener pastures honestly.

 

[Arctic]

I've been browsing the subreddit for months now, it's pretty hilarious. Does anyone know whether defeners existed in previous decades?

 

[Shokew]

I've been browsing the subreddit for months now, it's pretty hilarious. Does anyone know whether defeners existed in previous decades?

Likely no public access internet to bitch like this on, so likely "no"... But I'm sure someone found a way around all of that, so I'm sure I'm wrong as hell.

 

[bradsternum]

I do think there is a creative lull in media at the moment, specifically in music, film, and books. There's a lot of rehashing going on, old guard types trying to find formulas in an increasingly unpredictable market. I don't think this is a permeant problem, I think the industry is just struggling to figure out where it stands in a post-internet world.

There's still good music out there, it just doesn't end up on the radio.

 

[KingCasio]

I've been browsing the subreddit for months now, it's pretty hilarious. Does anyone know whether defeners existed in previous decades?

"Fuck the Beatles! Too mainstream! I wish I was born earlier so I could listen to Django Reinhardt and Stéphane Grappelli!"

 

[Abethedemon]

I've been browsing the subreddit for months now, it's pretty hilarious. Does anyone know whether defeners existed in previous decades?

 

[Pine Tar]

The only reason pop culture seemed better in the past is that no one bothered to save the stuff that was shit. What do you see today? Great stuff and shit. And the shit is loud, annoying and everywhere.

 

[bradsternum]

That said, I do think children's television has been significantly weakened by the fear of offending people. Like, Hey Arnold! had Grandpa beating the shit out of Hitler. That wouldn't fly these days.

Anyway, I was really young in the 90s. Truth is, I don't remember much of it. It was a good time because I was a little kid and I didn't know shit, not because it was better.

 

[KingCasio]

The only reason pop culture seemed better in the past is that no one bothered to save the stuff that was shit. What do you see today? Great stuff and shit. And the shit is loud, annoying and everywhere.

What the fuck are you talking about? The shit's the actual good part.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I'd also suggest the trend from hand-drawn animation to cgi everything has been more bad than good.

 

[Honeyrabbit]

I always liked how they imply that music is some kind of progression and it morphed from prog rock to swag-rap in a few decades, and now the only music that exists is swag rap. Name any style of music that peaked in the past and there's probably someone out there making it today.

 

[BriarHeart]

1910 = music started

Bitch, please. Bubblegum pop has been around for centuries. Case in point, here's the aria "Non piu andrai" from Mozart's 1758 comic opera, The Marriage of Figaro (which was the big-budget adaptation of a smaller Italian play from two years earlier, and a summer blockbuster sequel to The Barber of Seville).

In 18th century Europe, the opera was not seen high-brow entertainment. On the contrary, they were mostly populated by the middle class, with the lower classes throwing peanuts from the cheap seats. The Marriage of Figaro was explicitly written to be funny, accessible to the underclasses, and packed with repetitive, catchy-as-fuck melodies that everyone and their mum could hum all day. Baroque composers made most of their money the exact same way that pop stars today do: write catchy earworms that most of the plebs will like. And it works.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I always liked how they imply that music is some kind of progression and it morphed from prog rock to swag-rap in a few decades, and now the only music that exists is swag rap. Name any style of music that peaked in the past and there's probably someone out there making it today.

No kidding. And if you've discovered older music, it's because it's been preserved by some kind of media, which could be with us until the end of time. It didn't all disappear the day music "started sucking".

 

[Honeyrabbit]

No kidding. And if you've discovered older music, it's because it's been preserved by some kind of media, which could be with us until the end of time. It didn't all disappear the day music "started sucking".

"I wish I was born in the 70s! Stuff today totally sucks compared to what they had then!"

- Posted to Facebook from my iPhone 6+

 

[Arctic]

I always liked how they imply that music is some kind of progression and it morphed from prog rock to swag-rap in a few decades, and now the only music that exists is swag rap. Name any style of music that peaked in the past and there's probably someone out there making it today.

Most of them seem to have very limited knowledge of music in general. Many people agree that Gangsta Rap died in the late 90's, and the "bling, bitchs'n'swag" type of rap has been in decline since 2010. Underground rap is never mentioned.

Similarly, the 90's to them are only about Grunge and Nirvana. Never a mention of the awful late 90's boybands, bubblegum pop and alt rock. In fact, everything non-rock between the early seventies and the late 2000's might as well not exist to them. I've never seen a defener talking about funk, or disco, or house, not even Nu-Metal which was pretty big as recent as ten years ago. Probably figures since most of them are tweens.

EDIT: Hilarious post I found on LWG, probably a troll but still

 

[KingCasio]

Most of them seem to have very limited knowledge of music in general. Many people agree that Gangsta Rap died in the late 90's, and the "bling, bitchs'n'swag" type of rap has been in decline since 2010. Underground rap is never mentioned.

Similarly, the 90's to them are only about Grunge and Nirvana. Never a mention of the awful late 90's boybands, bubblegum pop and alt rock. In fact, everything non-rock between the early seventies and the late 2000's might as well not exist to them. I've never seen a defener talking about funk, or disco, or house, not even Nu-\M/ETAL which was pretty big as recent as ten years ago. Probably figures since most of them are teens.

The funniest thing is that defeners are just as bad, but instead of listening to modern mainstream stuff they think is cool, they listen to decades old mainstream stuff they think is cool.
Neither side really extends their tastes, it's just a pissing match honestly.

Also, Psyche Origami is a fucking awesome underground rap group that I never hear get mentioned.