Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.

[damian]

What about when the few left that haven't already gone out of business go under?

Who cares, they were bigots who didn't push diversity hard enough to save the industry.

 

[damian]

Who the fuck bought 17,471 copies of this shit?

Comic shops that don’t know Zoe’s history and we’re fooled into thinking she would be a big seller.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

December Numbers are in, oh boy she must have promised to suck off an entire Comic-Con's worth of soyboys:
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2018/2018-12.html
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Watch as this number drops by over 60% by the 2nd issue.


The comics industry is currently in a "Post-Sales" era. Basically, a book that sells (ships) below the supposed minimum number of orders required will continue because of reasons not tied to how well they sell or how popular they are. As long as the book exists for political or personal reasons it is forced onto the market at the expense of the comic shops.

Better than I expected, will probably upset some of the long term comic pros who can’t break those numbers. It’s all downhill from there.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

December Numbers are in, oh boy she must have promised to suck off an entire Comic-Con's worth of soyboys:
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2018/2018-12.html
View attachment 643646
Watch as this number drops by over 60% by the 2nd issue.


The comics industry is currently in a "Post-Sales" era. Basically, a book that sells (ships) below the supposed minimum number of orders required will continue because of reasons not tied to how well they sell or how popular they are. As long as the book exists for political or personal reasons it is forced onto the market at the expense of the comic shops.

Average drop in the new Vertigo comics is only 40%. Reissues for number ones are around 1250 copies. I'm waiting to see how many people stick with any of the series to issue 3.

Also, it's up to the comic book store to bring in the comic. If it doesn't sell there the only way they'll put it on the shelf is if Diamond gives it to them and charges them.

 

[MyOtherNicknameIsAPun]

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2018/2018-12.html
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The more important stat imho, out of all books that had first issue hers sits at 25th.

 

[gobbogobb]

No the impirtant stat is she probably made 25 bucks in royalties, if she even covered her base.

 

[Jaimas]

I can't archive ads, but look who just appeared in a German Antivirus Advertisement:

The ad in question is apparently a malware site, just for maximum hilarity.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Who the fuck bought 17,471 copies of this shit?

It's likely the highest number she hit with any of her projects, but to put it in perspective, what's the retail price of a comic? Four bucks? If so that means her comics gross revenue is $70,000 before everyone from retail to print to distribution takes their cut, then Vertigo takes the rest. That's not much and if it was an indie video game 70k would be really bad, unless it was a one man operation out of a bedroom who, like clockwork, cranked out a game per year.

edit: She probably hopes for a Mark Millar(Kick Ass etc) situation where some network/studio picks up the rights to make a movie/show before the third issue is out. Then she, like Mark Millar, can hang around Hollywood instead of completing the comic. I would be surprised if she didn't see the comic thing as a stepping stone into something more prestigious and film/tv/netflix would be one of those things.

 

[SiccDicc]

What about when the few left that haven't already gone out of business go under?

Then they storm Jeff Bezos' house and demand he host the comic and post it on the front page of Amazon even for people who don't like comics. Until he tells Alexa to arm the machine turrets.

 

[AnOminous]

edit: She probably hopes for a Mark Millar(Kick Ass etc) situation where some network/studio picks up the rights to make a movie/show before the third issue is out. Then she, like Mark Millar, can hang around Hollywood instead of completing the comic. I would be surprised if she didn't see the comic thing as a stepping stone into something more prestigious and film/tv/netflix would be one of those things.

It's possible. Even if it just gets optioned and nothing happens, that's easily six figures, a nice fat score for a worthless whore like Chelsea.

Whether or not it does, though, she cares less about the immediate money from this project and more because it lends some fake credibility to whatever her next scam is, now that she's probably burned out the idiots willing to give her free money for nonexistent games.

 

[Tanner Glass]

It's possible. Even if it just gets optioned and nothing happens, that's easily six figures, a nice fat score for a worthless whore like Chelsea.

Whether or not it does, though, she cares less about the immediate money from this project and more because it lends some fake credibility to whatever her next scam is, now that she's probably burned out the idiots willing to give her free money for nonexistent games.

Didn't the same thing happen with her book? Didn't it get optioned and never released by Amy Pascal?

Seems like maybe she's got a nice little thing going with the optioning. Not sure who would option this when there's literally hundreds of superheroes/comics that haven't been made into movies though.

 

[Brain Problems]

Better than I expected, will probably upset some of the long term comic pros who can’t break those numbers. It’s all downhill from there.

This is an interesting angle I never considered. Keeping in mind how petty and small-minded Current Year comics-proers are I bet it rustled some feathers to see someone with zero experience roll in and get her girldick sucked into doing a Vertigo title that while under-performing and likely to be DOA by issue #3, still kicks the shit out of the dogshit they've been pumping out and with far more attention and fanfare than they've ever gotten.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

Seems like maybe she's got a nice little thing going with the optioning. Not sure who would option this when there's literally hundreds of superheroes/comics that haven't been made into movies though.

It's a better shot at stardom than doing nothing, she tried doing nothing and it only got her Patreon and Kickstarter level money out of it.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

This is an interesting angle I never considered. Keeping in mind how petty and small-minded Current Year comics-proers are I bet it rustled some feathers to see someone with zero experience roll in and get her girldick sucked into doing a Vertigo title that while under-performing and likely to be DOA by issue #3, still kicks the shit out of the dogshit they've been pumping out and with far more attention and fanfare than they've ever gotten.

The woke crowd is very petty and jealous of each other. Shuri only sold a few copies more than Zoe’s debut comic and the author is a fairly famous woke black woman who’s written several books. Zoe wrote an autobiography that was garbage and she got handed a comic book.

Think about the whisper campaign going on about “white women” and how Zoe is a prime example of privileged.

 

[proteus4994]

Seems like maybe she's got a nice little thing going with the optioning. Not sure who would option this when there's literally hundreds of superheroes/comics that haven't been made into movies though.

Netflix would and it worries me that they’re going to replace their acclaimed Marvel shows with cheap trash licenses they pick up at a DC fire sale

 

[RodgerDodger]

Who the fuck bought 17,471 copies of this shit?

Nobody. That’s the number shipped to stores. Who likely have to take 1 or 2 in order to get the desirable Batman variant cover. The only members of the public buying it are idiots like D&C in order to review bomb it.

Netflix would and it worries me that they’re going to replace their acclaimed Marvel shows with cheap trash licenses they pick up at a DC fire sale

DC won’t sell to Netflix. They have their own streaming service. Netflix is scrounging around Image and Valiant lately.

 

[damian]

The only members of the public buying it are idiots like D&C in order to review bomb it.

Like clockwork:

 

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

Didn't the same thing happen with her book? Didn't it get optioned and never released by Amy Pascal?

Pretty much. People forget that when Zoe got her book optioned, Pascal had also picked up like a dozen other "strong female" things at roughly the same time. Like that thing with "Scarlett Johansson is set to star!"was mentioned once, almost as a throwaway line, on one website, and you had people running around treating it as a done deal for like two years after.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

If any one wants to know, there's about 5 issues of Zoe's comic in every single comic book store. However, not every one of them ordered it and comic book stores with online stores will order more in the hopes that they'll sell. So you're looking at some stores having more than others.

 

[BubbleButt]

Does Diamond still do that buyback thing they used to for comics that didn't sell, and if that still happens are the shipped numbers updated after the fact?