Disaster Anti-vaccine advocates appointed to Minnesota autism council after measles outbreak - Yes, you've read that right

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A nurse prepares to administer the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine as well as a vaccine used to help prevent the diseases of diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and polio at Children's Primary Care Clinic in Minneapolis, MN, Friday, April 28, 2017.

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Officials in Minnesota have appointed anti-vaccine advocates to a newly formed state council on autism, sparking controversy in the wake of a record measles outbreak in the state.

State senator Jim Abeler formed the MN Autism Council last fall to address issues surrounding autism, including “treatment, educational options, employment opportunities, independent living, and more.” While about one in 59 children in the US are diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder, the rate in Minnesota is one in 42.

Though the council is not designed to take up the issue of vaccination, it has been ensnared in controversy due to the anti-vaccine sentiments it includes, according to a report in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. At least two of the council’s more than 30 members are skeptical of vaccine safety and oppose compulsory immunizations. One of those skeptical members, Wayne Rohde, was one of three initial people Abeler appointed to the council. Rohde was charged with helping to shape the council and with picking other members.

Rohde is a cofounder of the Vaccine Safety Council of Minnesota, which promotes the notion that vaccines are harmful despite extensive scientific data indicating that they're safe. He is also as an executive for Health Choice, which advocates that chronic health conditions in children are caused by “unhealthy choices” including “side effects of vaccine choices.” Another council member, Patti Carroll, is also part of both groups.

Rohde has argued to the Star Tribune that the ties aren’t relevant. “We’re not about causation within the council. The council is all about how to deal and help those who are afflicted, and their families and those who provide services,” he said.

But autism advocates and other council members disagree. “Even if it’s not something that’s discussed or that a policy is going to come out of, giving them this large contingency on this council is dangerous. It’s giving credence to a theory that’s false,” council member Noah McCourt told the Star Tribune. McCourt is an autism advocate who also serves on the Minnesota Governor’s Council on Developmental Disabilities.

The state of Minnesota has been a battleground for anti-vaccine sentiments. For years, anti-vaccine advocates had pounced on fears of autism there, largely in the state’s Somali immigrant communities. This fueled a measles outbreak in 2017, which was largest the state had seen in decades.

I didn't know Minnesota is a satellite state of California. Are they always this retarded?

 

[Antipathy]

What are you talking about? The US mass-sterilized blacks and other desirables on purpose for population control. I am not saying vaccines are sterilization, or that vaccines have horrible substances, why do people keep quoting me and saying that?

All I'm saying is the government shouldn't have the right to decide what goes into my bloodstream. I'm not making any statement on what's in vaccines or their effects on humans.

Allow me to translate

REEEE GUBBAMENT PROGRAMS FROM A CENTURY AGO REEEE ALEX JONES WATER FILTERS KEEP THE ALIEN AIDS OUTTA MAH SKULL REEE REEE REEE MY RIGHTS REEE.

How about we stop all government decisions and power is decided by who has the biggest gun while we swim in the toxic waste poured out by the factories? Like it or not the only thing keeping us from getting murdered by a wave of opportunists, rapists, criminals, and greedy corporations is the fact that there is still something that can crush them if they step too far out of line. It's not a perfect system but it's the best we have. If you cared for the government, did your research on issues, voted for sensible people, and encouraged more people to run for office then there wouldn't be as much corruption and stupidity.

But instead I can just sit here and watch the system implode as it overflows with spergs and extremists.

 

[Shugo]

Someone's mad that they had autism shot into them.

kikes got my foreskin too

 

[GethN7]

What are you talking about? The US mass-sterilized blacks and other desirables on purpose for population control. I am not saying vaccines are sterilization, or that vaccines have horrible substances, why do people keep quoting me and saying that?

All I'm saying is the government shouldn't have the right to decide what goes into my bloodstream. I'm not making any statement on what's in vaccines or their effects on humans. Why are you putting words into my mouth and calling me anti-science and an "anti-vaxer" when I'm not commenting on the safety of vaccines at all?

Because that is what you are saying, just coming to the same conclusion via different logic.

Anti-vaxxers: Because I don;t trust science and what they use to make vaccines, they are bad and I won't let them near my kids either.

You: Because I don't trust the government because of something shameful they did once, I won't get vaccinated because of my fears they will do something just as bad again if I get vaccination on their say so.

All roads lead to the same destination here, you are just taking a different path to it.

 

[Shugo]

REEEE GUBBAMENT PROGRAMS FROM A CENTURY AGO REEEE

Sterilization has continued in the US through the 1980s, I'm sorry you trust that your government only has your best interests in mind but if you would only do a little research you might see they sometimes like to sterilize their citizens.

 

[GethN7]

Sterilization has continued in the US through the 1980s, I'm sorry you trust that your government only has your best interests in mind but if you would only do a little research you might see they sometimes like to sterilize their citizens.

If you are so intent on contributing to being a disease vector over this fear, maybe they have a point on sterilizing certain people.

 

[Antipathy]

Sterilization has continued in the US through the 1980s, I'm sorry you trust that your government only has your best interests in mind but if you would only do a little research you might see they sometimes like to sterilize their citizens.

Keep waving that straw man, that was through surgery, not vaccines.

 

[Shugo]

Keep waving that straw man, that was through surgery, not vaccines.

Do you think chemical castration via injection isn't available now?

The government shouldn't have the power to decide what goes into my bloodstream. Sorry you totalitarians disagree, but the USA was founded on the belief of being distrustful of government.

When the government abuses its powers to sterilize its own citizens for decades and decades, I will be distrustful when they tell me it's mandatory to take their health shot for my own good up my veins.

I'm just glad you people are true to your colors and hope everyone who disagrees with your position of absolute government power over your bloodstream dies a horrible death.

 

[Antipathy]

Do you think chemical castration via injection isn't available now?

The government shouldn't have the power to decide what goes into my bloodstream. Sorry you totalitarians disagree, but the USA was founded on the belief of being distrustful of government.

When the government abuses its powers to sterilize its own citizens for decades and decades, I will be distrustful when they tell me it's mandatory to take their health shot for my own good up my veins.

I'm just glad you people are true to your colors and hope everyone who disagrees with your position of absolute government power over your bloodstream dies a horrible death.

To be frank, no, I don't hope everyone who disagrees with me about vaccines dies a horrible death, I'm just making quiet note of the fact that you are millions of times more likely to die horribly if you're not vaccinated. Chemical castration via injection to the shoulder, give me a break. You're making a very good case for government mandated sterilization with every pile of bullshit you spout.

 

[Shugo]

You're making a very good case for government mandated sterilization

This is the reason why I don't want people like you in power, you think your superiority means I shouldn't even be allowed to procreate. No, you don't think I shouldn't be killed, I should just be sterilized for my beliefs because you disagree with me.

Why would I want anyone like you who thinks everyone should have vaccines shot into them, also who thinks I should be sterilized, why would I want someone like you anywhere near my veins? You're not a very good representative of someone supporting government sanctioned forced injections.

 

[Cilleystring]

This thread needs to be sterilized

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

The Somalis in Minnesota stopped vaccinating their kids because they were dumb enough to believe Wakefield's bullshit, and also because a crazy-high proportion of Somali kids were enrolled in sped classes in school.

It wasn't because of autism caused by vaccination though, it was just a simple matter of Somali kids being dumb as fuck.

 

[autism420]

Do you think chemical castration via injection isn't available now?

The government shouldn't have the power to decide what goes into my bloodstream. Sorry you totalitarians disagree, but the USA was founded on the belief of being distrustful of government.

When the government abuses its powers to sterilize its own citizens for decades and decades, I will be distrustful when they tell me it's mandatory to take their health shot for my own good up my veins.

I'm just glad you people are true to your colors and hope everyone who disagrees with your position of absolute government power over your bloodstream dies a horrible death.

If you truly feel this way, why do you choose to still live in the US?

 

[Shugo]

If you truly feel this way, why do you choose to still live in the US?

Because there is no federal law mandating me or my children get shots.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

Because there is no federal law mandating me or my children get shots.

Were you seriously dumb enough not to vaccinate your kids?

 

[Shugo]

Were you seriously dumb enough not to vaccinate your kids?

Again, why do you keep saying I'm not vaccinated, or my children aren't vaccinated, that I don't like vaccines? I've never made any sort of claim like that. All I've said is that the government shouldn't have the power over what goes into my bloodstream.

The USA eradicated measles, polio, etc etc without mandatory government-ordered injections of vaccines. Why do we need the government to mandate what goes into our veins now, when disease rates are so much lower than 50 years ago?

 

[Antipathy]

This is the reason why I don't want people like you in power, you think your superiority means I shouldn't even be allowed to procreate. No, you don't think I shouldn't be killed, I should just be sterilized for my beliefs because you disagree with me.

Why would I want anyone like you who thinks everyone should have vaccines shot into them, also who thinks I should be sterilized, why would I want someone like you anywhere near my veins? You're not a very good representative of someone supporting government sanctioned forced injections.

It's not my superiority that is my argument for sterilization, it's the fact that you're more or less doing it for me by ensuring that your kids will reproduce far less than those who aren't dying of polio, measles, and rabies. Just as a little ditty about natural selection, dead measles kids don't reproduce that effectively, neither do polio cripples. Every step you take without seeing someone on crutches or in a wheelchair due to a horrifying illness should be a quiet thanks to Jonas Salk, but instead you screech about the government like it's the ultimate murder boogeyman.

Because there is no federal law mandating me or my children get shots.

Yeah, damn shame your kids won't go to school and will perpetuate your stupidity. I mean, the ones that live, anyway. Don't want our kids having the diseases you so willingly let exist again.

Again, why do you keep saying I'm not vaccinated, or my children aren't vaccinated, that I don't like vaccines? I've never made any sort of claim like that. All I've said is that the government shouldn't have the power over what goes into my bloodstream.

The USA eradicated measles, polio, etc etc without mandatory government-ordered injections of vaccines. Why do we need the government to mandate what goes into our veins now, when disease rates are so much lower than 50 years ago?

Because without continued vigilance, and with this wave of vaccine denial, these diseases will come back.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

Again, why do you keep saying I'm not vaccinated, or my children aren't vaccinated, that I don't like vaccines? I've never made any sort of claim like that. All I've said is that the government shouldn't have the power over what goes into my bloodstream.

The USA eradicated measles, polio, etc etc without mandatory government-ordered injections of vaccines. Why do we need the government to mandate what goes into our veins now, when disease rates are so much lower than 50 years ago?

So your kids did get vaccinated?

 

[Shugo]

So your kids did get vaccinated?

I don't understand what my children's vaccination status has to do with my stance on giving the government power over what goes into my veins.

Choosing to inject yourself or your kids is different from a law ordering you take a drug into your bloodstream, and it's wrong for a government to do that. I have my own rights that I won't surrender for "continued vigilance" and the "public safety" like the rest of our rights have been stripped away using the same language.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

I don't understand what my children's vaccination status has to do with my stance on giving the government power over what goes into my veins.

Choosing to inject yourself or your kids is different from a law ordering you take a drug into your bloodstream, and it's wrong for a government to do that. I have my own rights that I won't surrender for "continued vigilance" and the "public safety" like the rest of our rights have been stripped away using the same language.

Because if you did vaccinate your kids, then that shows that you do trust the vaccines, and you do trust the government, and all your rage is just meaningless, pants-shitting autism.

 

[Shugo]

you do trust the vaccines, and you do trust the government

Believing vaccines are safe and effective is not the same as believing that the US government will never willingly inject me with a harmful substance.

I think I have to change my avatar now so people can better understand me.