DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Pargon]

The guy has beaten RE2, Cuphead, every From Software game 5 times over and every GTA game 5 times over. I'm just saying people want to act like he's the most incompetent gamer in the world, but I just think he's an average gamer who puts himself out there and people give him shit for not playing perfect no-hit runs his first time through. It happens to every streamer honestly, I've seen good gamers miss an item and the whole chat gets flooded with "BLIND!" "YOU'RE SO FUCKING BLIND OMGWTF" "YOU FUCKING DUMBASS ITS RIGHT THERE".
Everybody fucks up in games, but DSP has the privilege of fucking up in front of hundreds/thousands of people who are actively looking for him to fuck up.

Beating Cuphead certainly puts him above numerous game journalists so I can give you that. But consider: if hundreds/thousands of people actively looking for him to fuck up, could that potentially be due to an excellent track record of, yes, fucking up?

 

[Alxmir23]

yea,gotta concede that game journalists and the people you see play at E3 and stuff are truly way worse than phil

if phil plays a game long enough,he will beat it

whats fun is him raging and whining no matter what

i mean in CoD,phils skill dont matter much,its the opponents
if the enemy is better than him,he will rage

 

[SauceRyuKen]

The guy has beaten RE2, Cuphead, every From Software game 5 times over and every GTA game 5 times over. I'm just saying people want to act like he's the most incompetent gamer in the world, but I just think he's an average gamer who puts himself out there and people give him shit for not playing perfect no-hit runs his first time through. It happens to every streamer honestly, I've seen good gamers miss an item and the whole chat gets flooded with "BLIND!" "YOU'RE SO FUCKING BLIND OMGWTF" "YOU FUCKING DUMBASS ITS RIGHT THERE".
Everybody fucks up in games, but DSP has the privilege of fucking up in front of hundreds/thousands of people who are actively looking for him to fuck up.

Dave is trash, don't fall for the marketing scheme. Re2 has adaptive difficulty. He did, in fact, NOT beat it on Hardcore. He beat it on EASY. You just need to watch the G fight, where it is incredibly obvious. First, two slaps, dead pigroach. Then, three slaps. Then, upwards of five. By the time Dave killed it, G was obviously on easy, requiring nothing but a pistol clip to the shoulder and a bit of flamethrower fuel to die. Dave manually banned the dude who pointed this out. He sticks to easy difficulty soulsborne runs, never going into NG where enemies do more damage. There's far more skilled players on Twitch, and you won't have to look very far to find them.

Dave at his best (sidescrollers, 2D fighters) is slightly above average. Dave at his worst (pretty much everything else) is one of the worst players to ever step into the gaming scene.

 

[Leon Breitling]

It's not his skill level that's the issue (though he is mediocre at best), it's the fact that he refuses to pay attention to or learn from anything in an attempt to rush through the game, and that he relies on his chat almost exclusively to beat the game. Getting help in a part when you're stuck isn't a problem, but his playthroughs have been likened to a Twitch Play recently because of that.

One thing that always strikes me about his playthroughs is that some of the easier tasks in various games he'll struggle with immensely, but then he'll do well at some of the harder things. It's baffling.

 

[JackDavis]

Dave is trash, don't fall for the marketing scheme. Re2 has adaptive difficulty.

Yikes, I didn't know RE2 had this. That definitely changes my opinion on his Hardcore playthrough.

 

[Here Comes Mongo]

Unclear about a few things here. First, doesn't every enemy have a range of potential damage they're able to cause? I seem to remember reading something about players not always dying to the same number of zombie bites, etc.

Also, what's the point of having difficulty settings when the game just ticks it down when you're dying repeatedly? Why not just have one setting that fluctuates down and up based on player performance?

Not saying you're wrong. Just a bit confused on how that works.

I noticed that most of the time in Hardcore, one bite sent you from Fine to Danger immediately, though there was a time or two I saw that it went to Caution instead. By and large, though, two bites is death in Hardcore, though you might get lucky and be able to survive two bites.

Hardcore doesn't just pertain to the difficulty of the monsters, it also forces the "ink ribbon to save" mechanic on you, adding another piece of inventory to manage. As far as the adaptive difficulty, it's just a by-product of making games more accessible to the casual player.

 

[ZehnBoat]

if phil plays a game long enough,he will beat it

that's what makes phil a scrub
an average person runs into a brick wall, tries to go around, over, or cut through
phil flattens himself against the wall screaming at it, and tries to walk through the wall.
and if he gets tired of that (which in recent months seems instantly) he'll try to have someone have knock the wall down for him.
in fact he's developed a habit of looking at walkthroughs BEFORE HE GETS STUCK OR EVEN STARTS just so his ego doesn't have to deal with losing

 

[actually]

I'm of the belief that DSP isn't that bad at games. The guy just finished RE2 on Hardcore mode, how many of you all can do that? I can see the replies now, "Oh but he just brute forced his way through it! He just ran by everything! He got streamchat help!" That doesn't negate the fact that most people couldn't do it. DSP just is an asshole and people like to discredit assholes.

He's certainly an asshole, which leads to a ton of the discrediting aimed at him, but this is an interesting point. I stopped by the stream, and he literally had people in chat telling him what to do, where to go, when to save, and things to do to beat bosses and mini-bosses. Even with all of that help, it took him 18 hours and a ton of salt to finish Leon A. So the question is: without stream chat literally acting as a real-time walkthrough guide, would Phil have beaten it? Let's ignore that he almost certainly wouldn't have played on hardcore anyway. I think he would gotten himself into a situation where he didn't have the resources to continue on and been forced to either restart on normal or would have just ragequit. Maybe, maybe, the adaptive difficulty would have allowed him to eventually make it through, but I have to think that his total time would have been much higher than the 18 hours.

He's not the worst at playing video games, but historical evidence shows that he lacks a truly breathtaking amount of common sense ("how do I use rations?", crouch-jumping, Bayonetta's tutorial section and witch-walking, etc).

 

[Cornstarch Colonizer]

yea,gotta concede that game journalists and the people you see play at E3 and stuff are truly way worse than phil

if phil plays a game long enough,he will beat it

whats fun is him raging and whining no matter what

i mean in CoD,phils skill dont matter much,its the opponents
if the enemy is better than him,he will rage

Gaming journalists are bad at being journalists, so it doesn't surprise me they're garbage at anything else. Is it any surprise that they fail upward in life too like Phil.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I think one of the best examples of Phil not being good at games is him not knowing you can manually move your aim up for headshots. It is really hard to claim someone is good at video games after playing for 10+ years and boasting about being a beast in games like COD and PUBG but not being able to grasp the simple concept of move up.

Phil makes it worse on himself by treating gaming like a job instead of a hobby. Normally, you play a game because you're interested in it and as a result of being interested, you learn the mechanics and immerse yourself in the game and get better. Even if you're not god-tier at playing the game, you understand it because you're invested. Using the headshot example, you try and score headshots whenever you can and favor careful aiming or certain weapons or whatever else to accomplish this. You might not exceed, but at least you don't need someone to point out to you after hours of play that it is possible to aim for a head and an explanation that shooting the head does more damage.

It has gotten even worse for Phil because of chat handholding. He's actually less incentivized to play well or learn mechanics or whatever because he's accustomed to people throwing quarters at him to explain something. If he learns it on his own, he gets less quarters. This is perfectly summed up by his Minecraft streams. A few weeks (I think) ago, someone even posted a basic guide on his forums and Phil said he didn't have time to read any of it and would rather have people "interact" to tell him what to do, aka cheer him and tip him with step by step instructions. Same deal with a game like Dark Souls and his recent magic run. You'd think someone who has played the game multiple times would have a better grasp of the mechanics, but he just wants chat to handhold him through the build and explain everything. Someone who genuinely likes Dark Souls takes the time to learn the inner workings of the game. In that community especially, there's no shortage of examples of players going all in to learn/improve and genuinely enjoy the game. Phil just goes back to Dark Souls because it made him a lot of money once, not because he's actually interested in playing it as a game.

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

Too many to quote here but you all have good points. Him putting this up front as a job says it all.

The handholding is what gets me. I see it a lot in other streamers, but the difference is they actually THANK the person that gives them the correct information and will usually mention "We did it chat!" instead of "I did it!". But Phil? He will act like he certainly did it on his own followed by a patting himself on the back and give no credit to where it's due. He will never admit he received outside help at all because that would discredit his Elite Gaymer Intuition and skill.

Seen it so many times and I noticed a pattern. If it's a multiplayer game, or say a driving game where chat absolutely cannot help him, he's a fish out of water. He will crash into everything because chat cannot possibly give him a correct answer on how to "win". Shooter games? What's chat going to say; aim better? Fighting games; uh, try blocking?

All those types of playthroughs is where he rages the most because he cannot find an easy solution. It's the reason he's such a fucking tier whore in almost every game because he just wants the path of least resistance(like picking OP shit in Souls games). Sure he played hardcore with REmake2, but it's not like he did it all on his own with immense chat handholding.

I get he puts himself as a streamer first(not really) and that you cant expect high level gameplay but he does not make up for the fact that he's: not a good commentator, has no charisma, and treats his chat like fucking dirt.

edit:I'm a terrible writer so I made many edits.

 

[Here Comes Mongo]

Too many to quote here but you all have good points. Him putting this up front as a job says it all.

The handholding is what gets me. I see it a lot in other streamers, but the difference is they actually THANK the person that gives them the correct information and will usually mention "We did it chat!" instead of "I did it!". But Phil? He will act like he certainly did it on his own followed by a patting himself on the back and give no credit to where it's due. He will never admit he received outside help at all because that would discredit his Elite Gaymer Intuition and skill.

Seen it so many times and I noticed a pattern. If it's a multiplayer game, or say a driving game where chat cannot absolutely cannot help him, he's a fish out of water. He will crash into everything because chat cannot possibly give him a correct answer on how to "win". Shooter games? What's chat going to say; aim better? Fighting games; uh, try blocking?

All those types of playthroughs is where he rages the most because he cannot find an easy solution. It's the reason he's such a fucking tier whore in almost every game because he just wants the path of least resistance(like picking OP shit in Souls games). Sure he played hardcore with REmake2, but it's not like he did it all on his own with immense chat handholding.

I get he puts himself as a streamer first(not really) and that you cant expect high level gameplay but he does not make up the fact he's not a good commentator, has no charisma, and treats his chat like fucking dirt.

edit:I'm a terrible writer so I made many edits.

That whole not crediting chat thing irks me too. In DD's re-stream near the end, Phil was having inventory management issues (shocking, right?). He had to pick up the valve to shut off the steam in the shower room, but had no space. His first instinct was to find something to shoot a shotgun shell at, since he had one shell left in his inventory (when you need all the ammo you can possibly get in this game, especially so in Hardcore). He had just picked up a Yellow gunpowder, and there was another gunpowder in the same room. DD and his chat were like "just combine them and make some extra shells". Phil proceeded to stand still for a few moments, reading the chat, and then suddenly he had the wonderful idea to do exactly as DD suggested. Then he proceeded to play it off as if he thought of it himself.

When you consider what his first instinct was and what he ultimately ended up doing, there's no way someone in his chat didn't tell him to just combine the gunpowders, so that he not only frees up the space for the valve, but get some extra ammo to boot.

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

When you consider what his first instinct was and what he ultimately ended up doing, there's no way someone in his chat didn't tell him to just combine the gunpowders, so that he not only frees up the space for the valve, but get some extra ammo to boot.

It has become so transparent with him. So many times I have just been so skeptical that he's just putting on an act when he does figure something out, with no hesitation. Or when he does not act one bit surprised at all at specific events(Mr. X and the helicopter part). Like almost he has read guides ahead or has seen someone do it off-stream an easy way or during his breaks.

One instance that made me a bit, frustrated? Was when chat told him there was a boss coming up which they said was a puzzle boss(lol). Way to ruin a moment if DSP didn't already know, which I suspect he did because he knew exactly what to do when he got to it. And this fight was not in the original in the way it was laid out.

It's either chat ruining it for him or it's him ruining it for himself. Many laughs were had by the way during that fight though when he bonked himself off many times.

 

[Pargon]

he lacks a truly breathtaking amount of common sense.

This. It's this. Take one quick look at how he handles any other aspect of his life. He's a buffoon. What sensible man would move cross-country before selling his current home when his only source of income is wildly inconsistent (if currently lucrative)? Who would assume no change in taxes after said move, or after his revenue sources changed? Who would spend money hand over fist even after a significant drop in monthly funds with no indication of them bouncing back?

Who would make cup noodles using a Keurig and then try to eat them with a spoon?

The defense rests.

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

This. It's this. Take one quick look at how he handles any other aspect of his life. He's a buffoon. What sensible man would move cross-country before selling his current home when his only source of income is wildly inconsistent (if currently lucrative)? Who would assume no change in taxes after said move, or after his revenue sources changed? Who would spend money hand over fist even after a significant drop in monthly funds with no indication of them bouncing back?

Who would make cup noodles using a Keurig and then try to eat them with a spoon?

The defense rests.

Chat can't handhold him there so it's amazing seeing what he's even capable of doing on his own. Phil is a real intelligent adult human.

 

[Alxmir23]

Chat can't handhold him there so it's amazing seeing what he's even capable of doing on his own. Phil is a real intelligent adult human.

hes too proud to take life advice
hell tell you to mind your business or that you have no idea what you are talking about

people keep telling him to sell the house and move in a cheaper place and he refuses. its the most sensible thing to do when you are in debt and cant afford to live somewhere

says he still would have to pay for renovations and moving cost.those are one time spendings
better than waste money every month either way

 

[BallBuster]

What it’s like in a typical DSP stream:

- come in to watch his pre stream.
- gameplay starts 60-90 minutes later
- balding flabby manchild flamboyantly waves arm around to yell at video game and the developers who made said video game.
- manchild gets stuck in video game.
- chat PAYS MONEY to help him in video game.
- he accepts money and thanks no one.
- chances are high he shits on the people who just gave him money because of his own stupidity and ineptitude.
- insert multiple burps and snorts, bottle crushes and 15 minute piss breaks.

- realize your day has now been wasted supporting quite possibly the biggest cuntrag this planet has to offer.

This should be pinned to his twitch page as a warning to new viewers.

 

[James Smith]

He will never admit he received outside help at all because that would discredit his Elite Gaymer Intuition and skill.

He will ignore people asking him to credit people too. If they keep it up he will stop ignoring them and start banning them.

 

[Nigel of Ukip]

people keep telling him to sell the house and move in a cheaper place and he refuses. its the most sensible thing to do when you are in debt and cant afford to live somewhere

says he still would have to pay for renovations and moving cost.those are one time spendings
better than waste money every month either way

He will NEVER leave his house. It's a trophy as to how great he is. Big house, gated community. I think if he loses that and moves to a condo it will fuck his head right up as he will have to face reality.

He could simply sell house as is for a lower amount of money. Would be a reasonable thing to do if you're drowning in debt.


He's 35 if I'm not mistaken. He's not getting any more fans and is just getting fucked with because of his own doing. If you google his name you instantly see a guy you would dislike, if you look deeper it doesn't get any better.
Noone would hire him because of his long working gap. Granted he would get hired in low paying jobs like McDonalds or Starbucks but imagine how bad people would fuck with him if they found out where he works? Orders and orders of McGouts. He lucky still has paypigs that tip big amounts but they're slowly stopping aswell. His parents are as he says, getting there in age so how will that arc go?
Give it a few more years and he will have nothing and it will all start when Kat dumps him.

 

[James Smith]

He's 35 if I'm not mistaken.

He'll be 37 in April.