[Autistic Furry Screeching about Simba]

[Meow and Ruff]

So rather than help someone with a mental issue you want to vilify them?

There you go again, conflating two different things. Of course we should help those with mental issues. But we should also vilify those who slander others, rather than following the line of "I don't like Simba, therefore I'll go along with whatever shit is thrown at him". Mental illness does not give a free pass to behave however you wish without consequence.

 

[Connectingdotsanddogs]

There you go again, conflating two different things. Of course we should help those with mental issues. But we should also vilify those who slander others, rather than following the line of "I don't like Simba, therefore I'll go along with whatever shit is thrown at him".

It speaks!

And still avoids "proof" of me calling Simba a pedo.

Just admit you lost at this point. Don't mention slander and shit when you still have yet to prove where I called Simba a pedo. A blatant lie.

And to make it clear for you becausw you clearly are braindead:

The blatant lie is your suggestion I called Simba one.
The defensiveness and unwillingness to provide proof of me saying something I never said makes for reasonable suspicions though. Very defensive of something I never said

 

[NotSoAceCat]

Because it's blackmail.

And even it fails at it, it would be the dumbest blackmail I've seen talking about it in a site that has 0 involvement with said victim.

Because someone who is verifiably an extreme BDSM sub will not legitimately cry "blackmail" if their material is used against them. I don't even know if Simba has the material. He certainly didn't break into the person's house from 5,000 miles across the Atlantic, like the guy also claimed. Bipolar and schizophrenia fuck with your head.

BUT WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH SIMBA?

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

Yall, this is giving me a migraine

 

[Meow and Ruff]

It speaks!

And still avoids "proof" of me calling Simba a pedo.

Just admit you lost at this point. Don't mention slander and shit when you still have yet to prove where I called Simba a pedo. A blatant lie.

And to make it clear for you becausw you clearly are braindead:

The blatant lie is your suggestion I called Simba one.
The defensiveness and unwillingness to provide proof of me saying something I never said makes for reasonable suspicions though. Very defensive of something I never said

I already explained earlier that I view the people against Simba as a collective. I don't really care who provides the proof to the claim that he's a pedo, but I do want to see it. Not everything is about you, sunshine.

There's a lovely irony here in that you'll probably dislike the above in favor of your own individualism, yet pretending everyone who supports Simba, or isn't against Simba is Simba is somehow reasonable. Double standards are wonderful things.

 

[Dingo]

I don't know why there's a huge argument over whether Simba is a dom or sub in these scenarios when both of his known F-lists state that his role is 'Always dominant'

https://www.f-list.net/c/kiros+lionheart
https://www.f-list.net/c/pluckyfox

Are Pluckyfox and Simba the same dude?

 

[Hardinthepaint]

This is truly the most dumbest shit I have read on this megathread, 4 pages in a span of 3-4 hours.

 

[FS 185]

I added this into my previous post but things are going by too quickly.

This sock-puppeting from Meow and Ruff is the same thing Simba did on Twitter last month, using 5 alt accounts to defend himself and FM from these claims. Two of the alts have since been banned by Twitter, I'll post their links again so you can read through replies.


http://www.twitter.com/furryvalley (FM main)
http://www.twitter.com/topiliger (alt) - suspended
http://www.twitter.com/FangComputech (alt) - suspended
http://www.twitter.com/friendlylyon (alt) - http://archive.li/X9o4c
http://www.twitter.com/anthrolodge (alt) - http://archive.li/Np3SU
http://www.twitter.com/MrsThiccGryphon (alt) - http://archive.li/c3oig

The last three accounts were all made on the same day (Jan 7th)

Are Pluckyfox and Simba the same dude?

Yes. Proof of this is posted in my initial evidence leak back here https://kiwifarms.net/posts/4290561/

 

[Meow and Ruff]

BUT WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH SIMBA?

My claim is (roughly): "No extreme BDSM sub, if a dom did what said sub claimed dom did, would refer to it as blackmail".

- The video proves the person is an extreme BDSM sub.
- The sub claims what he claims.
- But the sub also refers to it as blackmail.

Reductio ad absurdum. It is impossible with valid inputs to arrive at an invalid output. Therefore, one of the inputs is wrong. The only inputs are the first two bullet points here. We can all see proof of the first by the video. So the second must be incorrect.

I admit it's a little bit complicated, and writing it out like this is more like formal logic than anything else, but sometimes needs must.

 

[NotSoAceCat]

There's a lovely irony here in that you'll probably dislike the above in favor of your own individualism, yet pretending everyone who supports Simba, or isn't against Simba is Simba is somehow reasonable. Double standards are wonderful things.

Did anyone understand what he said? I don't speak autistic.

My claim is (roughly): "No extreme BDSM sub, if a dom did what said sub claimed dom did, would refer to it as blackmail".

- The video proves the person is an extreme BDSM sub.
- The sub claims what he claims.
- But the sub also refers to it as blackmail.

Reductio ad absurdum. It is impossible with valid inputs to arrive at an invalid output. Therefore, one of the inputs is wrong. The only inputs are the first two bullet points here. We can all see proof of the first by the video. So the second must be incorrect.

I admit it's a little bit complicated, and writing it out like this is more like formal logic than anything else, but sometimes needs must.

Are you this dense? What does this extreme sub has anything to do with simba??

 

[Connectingdotsanddogs]

I already explained earlier that I view the people against Simba as a collective. I don't really care who provides the proof to the claim that he's a pedo, but I do want to see it. Not everything is about you, sunshine.

There's a lovely irony here in that you'll probably dislike the above in favor of your own individualism, yet pretending everyone who supports Simba, or isn't against Simba is Simba is somehow reasonable. Double standards are wonderful things.

You specifically said I ME MYSELF said Simba is a pedo. Your wording. Not mine.

Provide proof and stop weaseling your way out after by pretending you meant as a collective. You only ruin your own arguements doing that

You know when a double agent turns out to be a triple agent? Your double standards comments are funny when you are the one doing the double standards. You came to us remember? We have been doing all of this to then have you come along, poke the hornets nest and then act like you aren't trying to get info out of us that we aren't giving because we aren't stupid.

Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer they say. And seeing as you are a Simba shill you are an enemy of the truth. You will discredit anything that doesn't fit your story simply by spinning it or saying "oh but be prefers to be dommed". Not actual evidence just words

 

[Ledian]

The drama really has been kicked up a turn in this thread.

So, @Meow and Ruff, you claimed that you posted proof a bit in the thread ago and claimed it was definite but the issue is that in this case with Simba, it really isn't. It's circumstantial at best. If you want to make me start believing you, catalog everything in one neat master post. That might start helping you out.
But to be frank, on looking back at what you posted, a one thing popped out at me in your posts.

I'm on the fence. If you've got direct logs showing him admitting or doing pedo or zoo shit, post them and we can save a lot of time. It's pretty much a meme at this point to accuse everyone who isn't against Simba of being Simba...

At first, the post seems innocent but at another glance, it's quite suspicious. The reason it's suspect is that you came after this was dropped:

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Islamic content warning

I'll dump what I have on Simba for now. Use it to make a thread if you wish.
Note: This post is a bit of a rushed mess, and some images were broken on first upload. Let me know if they break again.



(I have details of three known addresses for Simba/Chris Bryant, including his last known, but I will not be publishing these details here)


https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/m...g-retain-mental-arithmetic-world-title/23/08/
http://archive.li/vvB1f
Real identity including photos.


https://twitter.com/R3M1XPHYZ1X/status/1054498769352437762

https://twitter.com/DogpatchPress/status/1066817848985640960

https://twitter.com/teagfox/status/1084199327629758465

https://twitter.com/KabsCorner/status/1084354820499066881

Furry Menagerie recently rebranded to Furry Valley



Testimonies of minor blackmailing/solicitation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1plIq-PPKKgygDSdFEubMBJLy-PVbG42XokmBSJpOqDc/edit
Screenshots tying other evidence together: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zMYtsi3nzUK7ucsbNODBrJxANUAGdXgD

http://telegram.me/simbarawr

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Account deleted once in an attempt to evade evidence when first outed, remade under the same name
SimbaRawr handle since banned by Telegram

(First Telegram ID 306136542) - Evidence including ties to RL crush:

http://telegram.me/simbarawrs - New and current main account
Simba#7085 - Discord



Other known aliases, majority used for doxxing

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Kitsu (Skype, primary name used when doxxing)

Liger (Discord Liger#1274) (current FM admin rank)

Fluffy Tiger (aka Stripe) (Telegram, Runescape, Discord (was clan co-leader account in Runescape and Discord, deleted on Discord as of mid November 2018 - roughly the same date that Simba's original Telegram was also deleted))

FoxHowl1 (Telegram)

The Big Bad Fox / Foxy Boyo ( foxyboyo115 / foxyboyo116 / foxyboyo / foxyboyo112358 ) (Telegram, doxxing)
Caliburnis Tiger (CaliburnisX23) (Telegram)
DogSquared (Telegram)
Best Hyena (BestHyena2) (Telegram)
All four above are the same account (ID 526656005), names changed to move onto new targets.

http://archive.li/1uW4B
https://archive.li/jukbv
Impersonated by either Simba or BlazeSnep (the other owner of YiffLinks/FurWorks/Furry Menagerie) on Furaffinity to spread FM invite links. The real Joresi has no affiliation with FM.

Other evidence:

(all of Simba's "details" posted here are false)

Black Knight (Telegram)
Princess Leia (Telegram)
Both accounts using random usernames, no handle or ID provided.

Ties to abuse or sexual exploitation of minors that need to be explored:

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"Whosy" refers to Whos-dr, a current and long-time admin of FM going back over 6 years. Alleged to now be around 21-22 years old, this is said to have happened when he was 16, which would've made Simba 22-23 at the time.

Syldra is a former Runescape FM admin, pre-Discord.

Soliciting nudes from unnamed 15-16 year old, doxxing with threats and blackmailing for payment of £1000.

Soliciting nudes from another 16 year old, blackmailing for a Runescape partyhat (valued over £500), former member of FM. Ousted and defamed.
Victim is extremely scared to come forward about this information, from a recent conversation with him

Doxxing and blackmailing 16-17 year old with threats.

Ties to crush, and bestiality/possible zoosadism (a lot of which needs to be explored further) (NSFL)

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All messages from the original SimbaRawr account (ID 306136542) as evident above.
Over-uses heart emoji on all platforms. Periods after smileys, and smileys followed by hearts. Easily identifiable traits across alts.

Links to other zoophiles

ShadowWoof - Simba's 'master'

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Other contacts, alts and aliases

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simbathelionrules (Skype)
simbathelionrules@hotmail.com
ch*****@gmail.com - possibly includes real name
simbathelionrules@gmail.com
Sw_raichu203 (old RS name)
Simba (current RS name)


FM/FV Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnlGhQp3QVDsYR3VMqJuoow/videos


http://www.furaffinity.net/user/simbathelion (main, former FA admin, account disabled after FA-leaks)
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/koditiger/ (alt)
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/joresi/ (alt - impersonating another person https://twitter.com/Thefluffiestboy/status/1084338636877750272 https://archive.li/jukbv )
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/furrymenagerie (shouts deleted and disabled after callouts of Simba's harassment)

http://www.twitter.com/furryvalley (FM main)
http://www.twitter.com/topiliger (alt)
http://www.twitter.com/FangComputech/ (alt) (originally made for a future tech support/PC-related business)
http://www.twitter.com/friendlylyon (alt)
http://www.twitter.com/anthrolodge (alt)
http://www.twitter.com/MrsThiccGryphon (alt)
Last three were all created on 6th-7th January 2019, all alts are used to spread a 'counter-evidence' document to defend Simba

Other links to doxxing/blackmail

Spoiler

This was sent to someone in a group chat which was discussing Simba and a lot of the above evidence at the time.

SecondLife accounts

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SimbaRules Resident - Main account

Pluckyfox Resident

Gautiers Resident

Note - 'gautiers' are a type of high-heeled stiletto shoe that are popular with crush fetishists

F-list accounts

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https://www.f-list.net/c/kiros+lionheart

https://www.f-list.net/c/pluckyfox

Which has some proof that shows that he has done exactly as accused, and lists every account he has. But the accusing part gets me because it's clear all these accounts are more than likely Simba; but that sentence is also suspect because more notably, you came running straight in after tired had stated this:

Evidence regarding blackmail and sexual exploitation of minors was forwarded to authorities a while ago, they responded that they were "keen to take things further" on that matter alone.

And not only that, acting as if "you're on the fence" when you've mostly been white-knighting Simba. Not just white-knighting, but deflecting for him as well, trying to lay blame on his accusers. Which strikes me odd; it wouldn't be so hard to defend him but you still take the time to try and discredit his accusers all the same. Not only that, you had blatantly stated that you had stated that it's "a meme to accuse everyone defending Simba as Simba himself" despite the only one really defending him is you and that's after these receipts were dropped.

Basically, you're starting to make me wonder if you're Simba himself. Considering he's known for sockpuppeting, this isn't too far-fetched an idea, no matter what you may say. The only person who stands to gain from defending Simba is, well, Simba. Especially here of all places.

 

[Meow and Ruff]

This sock-puppeting from Meow and Ruff is the same thing Simba did on Twitter last month, using 5 alt accounts to defend himself and FM from these claims. Two of the alts have since been banned by Twitter, I'll post their links again so you can read through replies.

I don't understand why you seem to believe that everyone who isn't against Simba is Simba. He has thousands of furries in his communities. He doesn't involve himself with this sort of shit at all. There is a team dedicated to dealing with this and similar things. How the hell do you reasonably think someone manages all of what he does as well as apparently being dozens of people?

 

[NotSoAceCat]

I don't understand why you seem to believe that everyone who isn't against Simba is Simba. He has thousands of furries in his communities. He doesn't involve himself with this sort of shit at all. There is a team dedicated to dealing with this and similar things. How the hell do you reasonably think someone manages all of what he does as well as apparently being dozens of people?

How do you know all this? How do you there is a team dedicated to this? how do you know he doesn't involve in this shit?

 

[TheWatchfulFurfag]

If necessary, yes, absolutely. It already was released in the anon Telegram group which is how I got it. This person has been saying Simba blackmailed him for months. The person also claimed that Simba broke into his house. The person lives in Kentucky. Simba lives in England. The person also has bipolar syndrome and schizophrenia. Crazy.

How you came to get the video isn't reliable because everyone here sees you as someone coming to defend Dear Leader Simba. I mean it's plain as day at this point.

At the end of the day, you are threatening to release a compromising video of a person in response to them accusing Simba of Blackmail. If this video is as you described, The video itself doesn't prove anything, everyone has fetishes, friend, having one doesn't mean you're not being blackmailed. You're talking about posting it in the context of it being socially damaging and embarrassing for them.

And you can't see why this looks like blackmail?

 

[Meow and Ruff]

And not only that, acting as if "you're on the fence" when you've mostly been white-knighting Simba

You posted a lot and there's not time to reply to it all right now with how quickly this is flowing, but it's been a few pages since I last saw something like this. I was fairly neutral and wanting to find out more to begin with. But the lack of any evidence being shown at the claims of Simba being a pedo or a rapist really bothered me. KF has a reputation for laying things out there. If it's real, why is it not being shown? A mod a few pages back even said to show it to me. There's nothing.

There's also the whole absurdity in terms of hours-per-day. In order to do everything Simba's claimed to be doing, you'd need more hours than there are in a day. Some of the people who have been claimed to be Simba also have been in voice chats with Simba, literally talking simultaneously with him. So of course I'm suspicious. There are things being said that not only are unproven, but that are obviously false (the voice calls, it being impossible to be in two places at once, to do all of these things in such a limited amount of time, and so forth).

 

[Connectingdotsanddogs]

The drama really has been kicked up a turn in this thread.

So, @Meow and Ruff, you claimed that you posted proof a bit in the thread ago and claimed it was definite but the issue is that in this case with Simba, it really isn't. It's circumstantial at best. If you want to make me start believing you, catalog everything in one neat master post. That might start helping you out.
But to be frank, on looking back at what you posted, a one thing popped out at me in your posts.



At first, the post seems innocent but at another glance, it's quite suspicious. The reason it's suspect is that you came after this was dropped:



Which has some proof that shows that he has done exactly as accused, and lists every account he has. But the accusing part gets me because it's clear all these accounts are more than likely Simba; but that sentence is also suspect because more notably, you came running straight in after tired had stated this:



And not only that, acting as if "you're on the fence" when you've mostly been white-knighting Simba. Not just white-knighting, but deflecting for him as well, trying to lay blame on his accusers. Which strikes me odd; it wouldn't be so hard to defend him but you still take the time to try and discredit his accusers all the same. Not only that, you had blatantly stated that you had stated that it's "a meme to accuse everyone defending Simba as Simba himself" despite the only one really defending him is you and that's after these receipts were dropped.

Basically, you're starting to make me wonder if you're Simba himself. Considering he's known for sockpuppeting, this isn't too far-fetched an idea, no matter what you may say. The only person who stands to gain from defending Simba is, well, Simba. Especially here of all places.

He basically walked into exactly the sort of traps every KFer wishes every lolcow would walk into

Also they go on to say there is a team dedicated to dealing with these sorts of things. How much shit does Simba manage to get himself into on the regular?

Occam's razor suggests Simba having all these enemies just DYING to make shit up about him is bullshit and I tend to agree

 

[Meow and Ruff]

How do you know all this? How do you there is a team dedicated to this? how do you know he doesn't involve in this shit?

It's not a secret. You can click on people in the Discord server and it shows what roles they have, including their individual admin teams. The team descriptions are also available if you ask. Simba's role is a management role. He also trains new admins and coders. There is another senior admin who leads external coordination.

 

[Connectingdotsanddogs]

It's not a secret. You can click on people in the Discord server and it shows what roles they have, including their individual admin teams. The team descriptions are also available if you ask. Simba's role is a management role. He also trains new admins and coders. There is another senior admin who leads external coordination.

You seem to follow Simba awfully close for Not-Simba. Next you'll be telling us which coffee he drinks based on the beans in his shit

 

[Meow and Ruff]

Occam's razor suggests Simba having all these enemies just DYING to make shit up about him is bullshit and I tend to agree

Occam's razor suggests that it is exactly what you'd expect. There are only about 10 core people saying these things. Let's estimate Simba has 20,000 furries across all platforms so the numbers are a bit easier. Then you'd only have to have 10/20000 = 0.05% of people who were nuts. And we're talking furries here. If anything I'd expect it to be higher.

You seem to follow Simba awfully close for Not-Simba. Next you'll be telling us which coffee he drinks based on the beans in his shit

This research is just basic though. This is why I can't understand why any of you haven't done it. Or done things like looked him up at Companies House, or at the universities you think are local to him, or stopped and asked yourself for a moment "can one person really do all of these things?" The inconsistencies are just so glaring.