Horrorcow Susan Schofield Cabana, Cory Cabana, & Michael Schofield / Schofield Productions / @bipolarnation - A Tragicomic Tale of Psychiatric Munchausen's by Proxy

[Jd1]

It comes at the expense of his wife and unborn child.

This shitshow has been in high gear for weeks now, and one can assume Amy is getting tired of him running off to enable Susan.

I think we can all understand Amy’s frustration at this point but I think we all understand that she has compassion and love for Jani and Bodhi (they didn’t ask for any of this).

Susan’s mania is escalating rapidly and Bodhi’s life is in very real danger, every second he is with her.

The situation is critical- Amy has a whole army supporting her on this thread, I know it’s not ideal, far from it but it’s the right thing for Michael to be there.

I hope Amy is able to stay strong!!

 

[RisingPhoenix]

This further enabling Susan to do what she pleases. She needs to suffer the consequences of her own actions. She was warned, by the head of DCFS, what will potentially happen...

It's typical abuser behaviour, they hoover previous victims back in with their drama and/or play nice - anything to get the victim back in their space again, just so they can play with the old chew toy some more. Sadly Michael is somewhat saddled with that because he had kids with her. Others are lucky that the solution is way easier, cut & run and never look back. But doing that leaves 2 vulnerable children at Susan's mercy.

In a way Mike could of acted sooner and avoided this horrible timing, but at this point there's no point mulling on that and just getting on with the task at hand. He's as responsible for these kids as he is for Amy's child. But it *is* bull that Susan pulls this while knowing this is the situation. Not that she cares, and bringing it up with her is probably only going to make her giggle with glee that she's messing with Michael anyway. He should be making it clear if she can't even do this, she's going to lose the kids and he's going to be making sure of it.

But after this he really does need to figure out what he's going to do long term. Running to LA every time Susan goes nuts is only going to encourage her to keep going "oh oops look I'm going to overdrug ur kids over better come stop me~" and while Mike should put his kids as priority, it's absolutely unacceptable that Susan can't handle a few weeks without stuffing drugs in them again or dragging Bohdi off to ER because *shock* he's awake enough to retaliate when she shoves a camera in his face or talks over him for the 100th time.

Eventually Mike might have to make the tough decision on working out if he or someone else can take the kids instead of Susan. Credit to him he's trying to give Susan chances to do the right thing, but considering she thinks the Dr Phil thing was a conspiracy against her - I'm not convinced it's going to get better with her.

 

[Barbarella]

It comes at the expense of his wife and unborn child.

This shitshow has been in high gear for weeks now, and one can assume Amy is getting tired of him running off to enable Susan.

It doesn’t come at the “expense” of his wife and unborn child. Women have been having babies without their husbands around since millennia and nobody will be physically hurt. The only thing that could be hurt would maybe the feelings of a childish woman. It’s her second child too, not her first.

If Michael doesn’t sort this out, it’s most certainly at the expense-the lives perhaps-of the other children.

If she didn’t want this she should not have married Michael. She knew perfectly well what she was getting involved with. And Michael has already been married to one turbo bitch, he doesn’t need to be torn apart by another.

Aside from the horror story, I feel like I’m hearing stories about what happens when babies don’t grow up, my god.

Make started it, he should at least see this through.

 

[Rosa_Rojo]

Amy knew about the needs of Jani and Bodhi. She lived in California, fir 6 months, and saw them multiple times a week. She was never afraid of their issues and enjoyed spending time with them.

She DID NOT know the full extent of Susan's madness, including the depth of her poor parenting, and her inability to co parent with her kids father. Not to mention shes still hung up on the guy.

So no, I don't think she willingly walked into this horror show.

 

[Graphene]

Oh, I agree with you completely. I am just trying to appeal to that part of his brain that's obviously drawn to those ideas - hoping to "light it up" a bit. If he were posting conservative garbage, I'd be trying to "turn that down" so to speak.

He's so far willing to keep talking with me, and I appreciate those who are archiving it. I have no doubt he'll contradict/lie about things, and he's continuing to say "you're not here...you don't know"... yes Cory. I know that. So please tell me then.

I figure as long as I don't insult him, and keep asking questions, he'll stay with it. I am on EST so I can't keep the conversation going for much longer (hey, I've got stuff to do)... but I hope that if anyone else engages him on FB, it will stay civil - simply because I think that's the only way he'll keep talking. If he responds, I'll try to throw in some questions about Jani and how she's doing and if Susan and Bodhi are gone to TX yet. I'm really just curious and if he sees me as non-threatening and not "some crazy kiwifarm troll", then he'll keep going. Optimistic I know...

And looks like he deleted the whole exchange?

 

[AidansMommie]

So no, I don't think she willingly walked into this horror show.

Perhaps we will have to agree to disagree on this point but from my own point of view it seems that Amy made an impulsive decision and now she’s going to have to live with the consequences resulting from leaping without taking the time to look. She’s an adult and now it’s time to put on her big girl shoes and suck it up.

 

[multiverse]

Amy knew about the needs of Jani and Bodhi. She lived in California, fir 6 months, and saw them multiple times a week. She was never afraid of their issues and enjoyed spending time with them.

She DID NOT know the full extent of Susan's madness, including the depth of her poor parenting, and her inability to co parent with her kids father. Not to mention shes still hung up on the guy.

So no, I don't think she willingly walked into this horror show.

It's an incredibly unfortunate thing to discover that someone you love has a crazy abuser in their life that will never go away. Unlike most crazy exes, Michael cannot go no contact, ever, because they share children.

It is what it is at this point, and in just a few years, both kids will be of age and he will not need to interact with Susan any longer, just the kids and their care providers.

Obviously this isn't super comforting when she is a million weeks pregnant and rightfully wanting him to focus on the upcoming birth. The show came up at the worst time, but this is an opportunity to get the authorities involved and bring attention to Susan's abuse since the traditional channels weren't successful.

Once this evaluation is over, I think it would be fair for Michael to focus more on Amy, the new baby, and helping her through those first few months of gummy smiles, no sleep, and the arduous physical recovery after a c-section, barring any medical emergency for his other children.

I hope Michael is still working with a therapist to figure out a hierarchy of his responsibilities, and how best to help his kids without getting sucked into Susan's attention vortex, so he can focus the appropriate amount of attention on Amy, their daughter, the new baby, and his other kids. It's a high wire act and I dont envy anyone in the entire situation. No one is getting everything they need emotionally right now and it's got to be stressful to the max.

 

[Barbarella]

Amy knew about the needs of Jani and Bodhi. She lived in California, fir 6 months, and saw them multiple times a week. She was never afraid of their issues and enjoyed spending time with them.

She DID NOT know the full extent of Susan's madness, including the depth of her poor parenting, and her inability to co parent with her kids father. Not to mention shes still hung up on the guy.

So no, I don't think she willingly walked into this horror show.

Well, she hasn’t left either.

I get it, I’m a mom of two and stepmom. But think of all the military wives who don’t have their husbands home, for the greater good-like this. They may not know exactly what goes on with their man but they know they’ll be gone. Think of all the stepfamilies, who somehow have to make it work with parenting differences even without insanity. It’s not easy but people do it.

Amy knew Sussn was crazy. She knew the kids weren’t normal. He wrote a book! She had to have read it. Later, she knew that her husband was going to handle this through television rather than legally, and you can’t control TV schedules. Maybe the day she walked down the. aisle she didn’t know how bad things were, and she didn’t understand that timing might not always be to her benefit. But it wasn’t a reach to figure out.

Life doesn’t work out the way anybody wants it to, and when somebody deliberately adds extraordinary circumstances like disabled kids and mentally ill moms that their spouse has to manage, they have to go with the flow.

If Amy wants this to work long term, she needs to be supportive and let Mike handle this now. If it’s taken care of early, it may not be so intrusive for the rest of her life. Still it will be a long-term problem and you don’t marry a guy with disabled kids thinking life will go smoothly.

I’ll just put this selfishness down to hormones because it’s hard for me to imagine putting a childbirth first when presumably she’ll get the rest of their lives with this man and baby, The life of this poor disabled kid who is clearly being drugged to death counts, and it should count to Amy, even if she has to give up the dream of her husband being by the bedside after a c-section. He’ll be there soon enough.




Edit: cleaned up many typos

 

[multiverse]

New post because new topic: Susan continues to insist that psychiatrists are responsible for anyone going on a shooting spree and ought to prevent any potential violence.

Is she still at the hospital the Bodhi while she's combing the news for proof all mentally ill people are violent unless given her favorite drugs?

 

[Whatthefuck]

It's an incredibly unfortunate thing to discover that someone you love has a crazy abuser in their life that will never go away. Unlike most crazy exes, Michael cannot go no contact, ever, because they share children.

It is what it is at this point, and in just a few years, both kids will be of age and he will not need to interact with Susan any longer, just the kids and their care providers.

Obviously this isn't super comforting when she is a million weeks pregnant and rightfully wanting him to focus on the upcoming birth. The show came up at the worst time, but this is an opportunity to get the authorities involved and bring attention to Susan's abuse since the traditional channels weren't successful.

Once this evaluation is over, I think it would be fair for Michael to focus more on Amy, the new baby, and helping her through those first few months of gummy smiles, no sleep, and the arduous physical recovery after a c-section, barring any medical emergency for his other children.

I hope Michael is still working with a therapist to figure out a hierarchy of his responsibilities, and how best to help his kids without getting sucked into Susan's attention vortex, so he can focus the appropriate amount of attention on Amy, their daughter, the new baby, and his other kids. It's a high wire act and I dont envy anyone in the entire situation. No one is getting everything they need emotionally right now and it's got to be stressful to the max.

This happens in a lot of divorces involving children. Not to this extent, obviously, but the parent who ends up with the kids is usually the mother, at least that's how it is here. There's an outmoded belief that the kids are better off with the mother and they become ammunition.

They are used as leverage for every single thing and even the best father's end up being flung around by narc exes. That's not to say that Mike is wholly innocent and it's not to say that this is always the case. It's never good for the kids though and it usually takes a ridiculous amount of work, money, and time for a parent to gain custody back from the parent who currently has custody unless something catastrophic happens.

You're right, this couldn't be happening at a worse time for Amy, but it's long due and it needs to play out for the kids. Of course, if by some miracle Mike gets custody of Bodhi or even both of the kids it's going to be a shitshow nightmare for a couple with a newborn. Regardless, those kids need to be removed from Crazy immediately if not sooner.

 

[vapewilder]

For someone who thinks psychiatrists are the devil, she really thinks they should be the ones in control

 

[AidansMommie]

For someone who thinks psychiatrists are the devil, she really thinks they should be the ones in control

Susan doesn’t think, she reacts.

 

[Fattyroad]

New post because new topic: Susan continues to insist that psychiatrists are responsible for anyone going on a shooting spree and ought to prevent any potential violence.

Is she still at the hospital the Bodhi while she's combing the news for proof all mentally ill people are violent unless given her favorite drugs?
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Well yeah, that shooting hadn't happened if they had knocked that guy unconscious with Clozaril, Thorazine and Lithium. Obviously it's psychiatrists fault because they hadn't prescribed them to him.

 

[Slowboat to China]

Bodhi has been on Risperdal, Ativan, Zyprexa, Seroquel, Lithium, Depakote, Thorazine, Geodon, Vyvanse, Lyrica, Abilify* Saphris* (edited to add) and of course Clozaril.... and lord knows what else. He was on risperdal before age 4. He was prescribed zyprexa by the time of the taping of the discovery life update, age 5.

Oh, Jesus. Abilify is another one that'll fuck you up, especially when you're young.. Tardive dyskinesia is a known side effect and can sometimes reoccur years after the medication was stopped. Has she ever mentioned Bodhi shaking or jittering?

Given the drastically increased awareness about mental illness of the past two decades I fear that MBP moms faking psychiatric illness is become far more common and is far, far harder to detect than physical medical abuse (and that was already exceedingly difficult). Even worse is that abuse crazy unstable mothers like Susan inflict would cause behaviors that unknowing doctors would quickly assign a mental illness too.

Sadly, I think you're right. It's become absurdly easy to get information about these conditions, and with the instant hit of gratification provided by social media plus the ease of faking an invisible illness, we may well see more like these in the future.

 

[lameandgay2]

Oh, Jesus. Abilify is another one that'll fuck you up, especially when you're young.. Tardive dyskinesia is a known side effect and can sometimes reoccur years after the medication was stopped. Has she ever mentioned Bodhi shaking or jittering?

Like Susan would mention Bodhi having an adverse effect to medication. She'd just call him psychotic and forcefeed him Thorazine and Benadryl.
I've been forced to try Abilify twice and jesus the dyskinesia is horrendous, so I sympathize with that poor kid. I wrote about my bad experience with Risperdal in this thread a while ago and it was just as bad. I can't imagine what he's been through with all these different medications.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

Amy knew about the needs of Jani and Bodhi. She lived in California, fir 6 months, and saw them multiple times a week. She was never afraid of their issues and enjoyed spending time with them.

She DID NOT know the full extent of Susan's madness, including the depth of her poor parenting, and her inability to co parent with her kids father. Not to mention shes still hung up on the guy.

So no, I don't think she willingly walked into this horror show.

Mixed feelings on this, Susan was nuts enough to drag Bohdi to UCLA begging for them to take Bohdi till the Police came in when they were married. I know how it can be dealing with emotionally abusive partners and you struggle to see the crazy when you were knee deep in it, but she was pretty nuts even when they were married. Maybe Michael thought a lot of the crazy behaviour was due to how toxic the relationship was between them as a married couple. But it was there, but yeah - sometimes it takes a long time for the other person to look back on that and think "wow I really put up with that?"

Susan's interest in Mike isn't romantic at all, at least not in the traditional "holding the torch way". She does want him around - but it's literally because she remembers the old Michael that would go along with her ideas and could be bullied into submission. Cory obviously is not that guy and has more recently been asserting himself over her a bit, she misses being the one in charge and in control. That and heck anyone who will take the kids so she doesn't have to deal with them is a bonus. Hence why Mike and Amy should never ever in a million years agree to move to California - not even for the kids sake. Because in the long run it actually will be worse for all involved.

That said I will give them this, Susan was sort of managing at parenting in a stable manner- even though stable was "drugging the kids whenever I have to spend more than 5 minutes with them". But the situation was such that Susan had managed to find a quack that backed her up and thought giving kids insanely powerful meds was a good idea. She also wasn't really doing anything bad enough to cause concern outside the drugging

It's the past 6 months or so that this has changed sufficient that Mike finally had a window of chance to do something because she's really gone off her rocker. Susan was nutty before, but then punishing the kids, finding out the med cocktail is slowly killing Bohdi enough that someone could *finally* say "hey maybe this kid couldn't be on this crap"

I think we all feel for Amy but at the same time it's a bit do or die for Bohdi sadly. I hope Mike does everything possible to make it up to her because she deserves it.

 

[large_farva]

Susan was sort of managing at parenting in a stable manner-

Drugging the fuck out of your kids is not parenting in a stable manner.

 

[throwingmuses1]

The promo is up on Dr. Phil's yt, the same one just better quality. :18

 

[multiverse]

Drugging the fuck out of your kids is not parenting in a stable manner.

In 2015, when Amy was living in California, Susan wasn't fucking with Jani's meds, and hadn't achieved her clozapine dreams for Bodhi. Susan was fully occupied with her battle with the doctors, and wasn't actively trying to fuck up Amy's life, or kill the children. From her perspective, this was maybe manageable crazy.

But within 8 months of meeting Cory, everything was off the rails in a bigger way than ever before. Susan got an accomplice, one with a sharp temper, something Susan has never had. Susan found a doctor without a conscious and very little oversight, and not only got Bodhi on massive clozapine and thorazine doses, she got Jani's meds upped to the point she pisses herself and can't stay awake in class. The new guy means Susan no longer wanted to spend all day with the kids, so off to school they go for the first time in years. This brings authorities into their lives, new people who notice something is very wrong with both children, who are obviously overdosed daily and the teachers don't feel comfortable participating in the crime. Bodhi is drugged until his little body nearly gives out, and Susan is using extreme physical punishments.

So things went downhill rapidly in the 18 months between June 2017 and January 2019. No one could have predicted it would come to this point, nor that Amy would be 9 months pregnant during the crescendo.

The promo is up on Dr. Phil's yt, the same one just better quality. :18

Poor Susan, she's still thinking she's got months for this to die down - and that she deserves to be on during May sweeps. Buckle up, buttercup: this is coming at you fast.

 

[Rosa_Rojo]

The promo is up on Dr. Phil's yt, the same one just better quality. :18

Do you have a link for that?