🐷 Ethan Oliver Ralph / TheRalphRetort / Rad Roberts / Jcaesar187 / Rage Pig / "Killstream" / "Tequila Sunrise" - 5'1'' fat alcoholic, owner of a gunt, convicted felon and revenge pornographer, property of the ugly failed tranny pornstar Lucas Roberts. Has quadruple titties.

[Love Machine]

I really don't know what you expected him to do. It was a tough situation, and he told the people he could without drawing attention to it. What would you have done?

Well it sounds like it was happening regardless of the attention. So yea he should have told them. Because it was being done regardless, so those who care about being doxed can dfe if they want. You know, give them the choice or at least a fucking heads up. I dont subscribe to that tuff situation shenanigans. He was scared that people would start holding their wallet a little bit close to them.
I get that you need to make a dollar to do nightly streams. But this is getting a bit much.

 

[Bob Barker]

Don't forget that people who haven't donated but are considering it deserve to know about the doxing so that they can take precautions.

 

[JamFlowMan]

Haven't watched the stream but it seems Ralph has won the day. Killstream has been stale the last few weeks but maybe this gives him some momentum to turn things around. Still don't get the Zoom thing, he is turn off the stream awful imo.

Whatever your opinion of him I think Metokur is a good barometer for where things are going. He knows when to distance himself from something before it gets too spergy.

 

[Squire of Gothos]

Maybe, but ask yourself this, would any anons who care enough to devote their time to such an endeavor not be autistic enough to spill the beans at the first opportunity?

There's plenty of OPS that have happened where we never knew who exactly did it, we still don't know who nearly got Jim banned from the internet when his YouTube channel and WeWuzMetokur Twitter account got banned... the timing and coordination that was involved in that make GuntOPS look like a joke in comparison.

 

[Colonel J]

@Colonel J you look like a exceptional Egon Spengler

I wanted to DM the guy personally to correct a few things, but I can't DM with guests.

I want to clear the record and say that is not my name, not my birthday, and that "photo" of me is actually a buddy of mine. Same with that "knot me daddy" picture. They live on the east coast. Here are some memes me and others made of them:
https://twitter.com/ColonelJ_LoL/status/848408012599443456 (pre-dates the KnotMeDaddy meme)
https://twitter.com/ColonelJ_LoL/status/963645116593426435
https://twitter.com/ColonelJ_LoL/status/955649642712018944
https://twitter.com/ColonelJ_LoL/status/849983288881983488
https://twitter.com/ColonelJ_LoL/status/852032625191510016

 

[MrNDP]

I just find it funny that ralph has said things along the lines of "doxing is no big thing", then when his donators are being doxxed he is suspiciously quiet about it (I wonder why) and NOW that the opportunity comes up he goes "oh yea totally something wrong with doxxing.
Im mostly caught up on the period where he was quite about it.

There's a difference between someone doing a show or trying to report stuff like Ralph did being doxed and regular people being doxed. Pretty sure most of the time Ralph is talking about doxing it's internet guys he's talking about not supporters of those internet guys.

 

[Love Machine]

There's a difference between someone doing a show or trying to report stuff like Ralph did being doxed and regular people being doxed. Pretty sure most of the time Ralph is talking about doxing it's internet guys he's talking about not supporters of those internet guys.

Hmmm then why did he wait so long to tell them? They were getting doxxed whether he spoke out or not.

 

[Colonel J]

Hmmm then why did he wait so long to tell them? They were getting doxxed whether he spoke out or not.

Ralph's hypocrisy on doxxing comes from "not caring" about it yet banning it from their forum.

I don't know what's up with Zoom's stream but it kept dropping out for me, did anyone catch the part where they showed screenshots of @Colonel J's posts about the Ralph site?

I'm around 1:56:50
https://www.stream.me/archive/godspeedlive/godspeedlive-the-guntsgayop-gets-got-part-2/9l1vR9RzYo

 

[The biggest iron]

Hmmm then why did he wait so long to tell them? They were getting doxxed whether he spoke out or not.

Do we actually know when the patrons were alerted? Ultimately, you keep shifting the goalpost when you get challanged on a point.
Also: *doxed

 

[Love Machine]

Do we actually know when the patrons were alerted? Ultimately, you keep shifting the goalpost when you get challanged on a point.
Also: *doxed

If they didnt get notified then that falls into my point more. I'll put it very clearly, Ralph should have notified them from second one. Because it was obvious that ignoring it wouldnt stop it. And though I can't know the soul of a man, it seems he held of on telling because he would back off on the pay pigging. Even then, he said he didnt care about doxxxxxing in the first place, so why be so secretive about it? Sure he paid the lip service of "oh, normies shouldnt get doxxed, only ecelebs". But he only paid that lip service today of all days. I know doxing isnt so big a thing ultimately. But I bet most of the people who watch the killstream wouldnt want to be doxed, and probably would have not donated if they had known. Ralph stood to loose shekels by doing the right thing and give people the heads up.

 

[terribledetective]

Haven't watched the stream but it seems Ralph has won the day. Killstream has been stale the last few weeks but maybe this gives him some momentum to turn things around. Still don't get the Zoom thing, he is turn off the stream awful imo.

Whatever your opinion of him I think Metokur is a good barometer for where things are going. He knows when to distance himself from something before it gets too spergy.

While I instinctively recoil at using one person's POV as a general "who's winning/losing" in this case I agree. And Ralph seems to have hit close enough to the sweetspot of acknowledging the gunt meme while (probably fairly) suggesting it's being pushed by people doing some gay ops. But again, as I said before, he has a gunt. It's just a fact and he has to embrace the meme like the Caesar one cause it happened/exists- he was getting less mad about it and reading gunt superchats, so that wasn't too bad. He's not at the point of laughing at it yet- you can still tell he's got a sore spot but if he heals that he'll be fine. Again, Ralph, you make more money than the people guntposting. Let them make fun of your tummypussy- you get thousands a month to do this, let us have our memes.

 

[The biggest iron]

If they didnt get notified then that falls into my point more.

That's not what I meant. What I was saying was that he could have alerted his patrons as soon as he learned about it, but we just don't know because it was in the patron discord.

 

[Love Machine]

That's not what I meant. What I was saying was that he could have alerted his patrons as soon as he learned about it, but we just don't know because it was in the patron discord.

My point is EVERYONE should have been told. I mean fuck he should have just talked about it on the show.

 

[Squire of Gothos]

If they didnt get notified then that falls into my point more. I'll put it very clearly, Ralph should have notified them from second one. Because it was obvious that ignoring it wouldnt stop it. And though I can't know the soul of a man, it seems he held of on telling because he would back off on the pay pigging. Even then, he said he didnt care about doxxxxxing in the first place, so why be so secretive about it? Sure he paid the lip service of "oh, normies shouldnt get doxxed, only ecelebs". But he only paid that lip service today of all days. I know doxing isnt so big a thing ultimately. But I bet most of the people who watch the killstream wouldnt want to be doxed, and probably would have not donated if they had known. Ralph stood to loose shekels by doing the right thing and give people the heads up.

This reminded me of something, didn't a hand full of Donga's fans get doxed prior to the fight? I'd go back and check Ralph's tweets from prior to Knoxville but he deleted them all from what I can tell, was there a point where Ralph was on Twitter laughing about that I wonder, or even on a stream? If someone found a clip or archive of that it all but proves Ralph changing his mind on doxing. Also depending on the person there's a thin line between a fan and an eceleb, take Randbot or DarkV for instance... are they Ralph's fans or are they ecelebs? When you become a vocal proponent of an eceleb you start to open yourself up to the potential for some random nut to try and mess with you, or if you're galaxy brained and make your username part of your real name. This whole ordeal regardless of what you think is a shining example as to why being a paypig for your favorite eceleb is dumb, and if you really want to support a creator be smart about it and don't use your real name or any name that will lead people to knowing who you really are.

 

[Bob Barker]

This reminded me of something, didn't a hand full of Donga's fans get doxed prior to the fight? I'd go back and check Ralph's tweets from prior to Knoxville but he deleted them all from what I can tell, was there a point where Ralph was on Twitter laughing about that I wonder, or even on a stream? If someone found a clip or archive of that it all but proves Ralph changing his mind on doxing. Also depending on the person there's a thin line between a fan and an eceleb, take Randbot or DarkV for instance... are they Ralph's fans or are they ecelebs? When you become a vocal proponent of an eceleb you start to open yourself up to the potential for some random nut to try and mess with you, or if you're galaxy brained and make your username part of your real name. This whole ordeal regardless of what you think is a shining example as to why being a paypig for your favorite eceleb is dumb, and if you really want to support a creator be smart about it and don't use your real name or any name that will lead people to knowing who you really are.

IIRC one of the issues donga had with Zoom pre-donga meltdown was that zoom would dox small, no name youtubers who were tangentially related to donga, people who had less of a following than someone like randbot or darkV. Now donga is the source on this so take it with a grain of salt, but if its true it makes it hard for ralph to associate with zoom while also condemning the doxing of nobodies.

There's also the possibility though that ralph was just trying to defend stream.me's decision and not saying that he personally had a problem with doxing his patreons. I don't know if he said as much or something contrary in the stream though because it was all super autistic that some of it just went in one ear and out the other.

 

[Love Machine]

It gets really unclear if someone is a sack of shit or just stupid when you start have to deciphering their logic. Like let's look at Andy. When he does something, it very clear why he did it, even if it is retarded. But that also makes who he is as a person. Deciphering big brained moves are usually reserved for when we are talking about skeptics, so it's really strange that we have to sit here and do it for the killstream.

 

[Motumbe N'dugu]

This reminded me of something, didn't a hand full of Donga's fans get doxed prior to the fight?

Kind of. People like Thrax and Akujin got doxed and Ralph laughed at the DBZ fanfic stuff but those people weren't really anonymous kumite supporters.

 

[Colonel J]

I thought Akujin was a Guntfunder until Zidan stopped taking call-ins for the post-stream ("post-mortem") and turned heel.

 

[Motumbe N'dugu]

I thought Akujin was a Guntfunder until Zidan stopped taking call-ins for the post-stream ("post-mortem") and turned heel.

He was, Akujin craves internet attention so when the killstream crew spurned him he set up shop swinging from donga's nuts. He's basically a pathetic version of Zoom.

 

[Love Machine]

Kind of. People like Thrax and Akujin got doxed and Ralph laughed at the DBZ fanfic stuff but those people weren't really anonymous kumite supporters.

IIRC one of the issues donga had with Zoom pre-donga meltdown was that zoom would dox small, no name youtubers who were tangentially related to donga, people who had less of a following than someone like randbot or darkV. Now donga is the source on this so take it with a grain of salt, but if its true it makes it hard for ralph to associate with zoom while also condemning the doxing of nobodies.

Ok let's be real here, it's just a case of "it's only ok when it doesnt mess with me." At this point.
Sure its bit of a childish mindset, but whatever, just be open about it. All obscuring your stance on it does it make people dislike you you more when they see you flip flop on it.