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https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps
Apple has shut down Facebook’s ability to distribute internal iOS apps, from early releases of the Facebook app to basic tools like a lunch menu. A person familiar with the situation tells The Verge that early versions of Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, and other pre-release “dogfood” (beta) apps have stopped working, as have other employee apps, like one for transportation. Facebook is treating this as a critical problem internally, we’re told, as the affected apps simply don’t launch on employees’ phones anymore.

The shutdown comes in response to news that Facebook has been using Apple’s program for internal app distribution to track teenage customers with a “research” app.

That app, revealed yesterday by TechCrunch, was distributed outside of the App Store using Apple’s enterprise program, which allows developers to use special certificates to install more powerful apps onto iPhones. Those apps are only supposed to be used by a company’s employees, however, and Facebook had been distributing its tracking app to customers. Facebook later said it would shut down the app.

This poses a huge issue for Facebook. While Apple provides other tools a company can use to install apps internally, Apple’s enterprise program is the main solution for widely distributing internal apps and services. In an email, a Facebook spokesperson said “I can confirm that this affects our internal apps.”

In a statement given to Recode, Apple said that Facebook was in “clear breach of their agreement with Apple.” Any developer that breaches that agreement, Apple said, has their distribution certificates revoked, “which is what we did in this case to protect our users and their data.” Apple declined to comment on shutting down all of Facebook’s internal apps in an email to The Verge.

Revoking a certificate not only stops apps from being distributed on iOS, but it also stops apps from working. And because internal apps by the same organization or developer may be connected to a single certificate, it can lead to immense headaches like the one Facebook now finds itself in where a multitude of internal apps have been shut down.

Apple and Facebook have already been bickering over privacy, but this is the first instance of Apple taking an action that directly shuts down some of Facebook’s activities. Last March, Apple CEO Tim Cook criticized Facebook’s handling of the Cambridge Analytica data sharing scandal, saying, “I wouldn’t be in this situation” if he were running the company. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg later said the comments were “extremely glib” and spoke of Apple as a company that “work hard to charge you more.”
 
I can't help but wonder how differently Apple would be acting now if Jobs hadn't died. He just seemed too autistic to put up with this SocJus shit.
I honestly wonder. He canned every charitable drive the company was a part of as soon as he rejoined it, it was clear he gave no shits about helping the world or poor people. But that's not special because none of these companies or millionaires care - what was unique about him is how open he was about it. Other tech leaders are thirsty for the PR that comes with empty slacktivism, but he wasn't. I think he might've become their enemy accidentally while he thought nothing more than "fuck off children, I have real work to do here".

There's also the fact that he was a half-Syrian son of a Syrian immigrant. I wonder how that would've gotten played by the pearlclutchers.
 
Ah, the giants are gearing up for a pissing contest. Can't bloody wait!
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The only reason this is happening to Facebook is the "Facebook helped hack the election" meme. TDS is driving it all.
Say what you want about Apple but they're extremely devoted to privacy. A few years ago they introduced a type of encryption that would wipe the entire phone after so many failed attempts to unlock it. The FBI told them to put in a backdoor for them so they could unlock criminals' phones and Apple was like "lol no". After receiving a court order from the FBI to unlock the San Bernardino shooter's phone they changed their encryption so that even Apple themselves couldn't unlock an iPhone.
 
Say what you want about Apple but they're extremely devoted to privacy.
Ask the Fappening folks how that devotion worked out for them.

I have no reason to believe Apple updated their encryption schemes to prevent them from being able to decrypt a user's device for privacy concerns. They did it because they get a foul taste in their mouths whenever a court orders them to do anything and they wanted a quick & dirty way to toss subpoenas in the circular file. That it protects user privacy in cases of prosecutor overreach is merely a happy accident.
 
Say what you want about Apple but they're extremely devoted to privacy. A few years ago they introduced a type of encryption that would wipe the entire phone after so many failed attempts to unlock it. The FBI told them to put in a backdoor for them so they could unlock criminals' phones and Apple was like "lol no". After receiving a court order from the FBI to unlock the San Bernardino shooter's phone they changed their encryption so that even Apple themselves couldn't unlock an iPhone.

Yeah, and I really respect that. As far as I trust that public narrative, at least.
 
Ask the Fappening folks how that devotion worked out for them.

I have no reason to believe Apple updated their encryption schemes to prevent them from being able to decrypt a user's device for privacy concerns. They did it because they get a foul taste in their mouths whenever a court orders them to do anything and they wanted a quick & dirty way to toss subpoenas in the circular file. That it protects user privacy in cases of prosecutor overreach is merely a happy accident.
Or at the very least Apple has just enough foresight to recognize that those backdoors the FBI wanted would’ve been a big neon bullseye for their own sensitive data to be targeted and that “court orders to private data” quickly becomes a slippery slope “private companies are liable for the activity of their consumers” that not corporation wants the burden of.
 
Ask the Fappening folks how that devotion worked out for them.
To be fair that was a security flaw in their cloud network not the phones themselves. It's also worth noting that the FBI managed to find a way to break their encryption anyway and then thumbed their nose at Apple by refusing to tell them the security flaw they exploited.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47281906

A report by a Commons committee has detailed Facebook's use of an application to "spy" on users.

The cross-party group said that Facebook used its Onavo virtual private network (VPN) app to gather information on competitors.

The MPs claim Facebook "intentionally and knowingly violated both data privacy and anti-competition laws".

The report, which is more than 100 pages long, also details the influence of fake news on the site in elections.

Monitoring competitors
The Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee wrote that through the use of Onavo, which was billed as a way to give users an extra layer of security, Facebook could "collect app usage data from its customers to assess not only how many people had downloaded apps, but how often they used them".

The report added: "This knowledge helped them to decide which companies were performing well and therefore gave them invaluable data on possible competitors. They could then acquire those companies, or shut down those they judged to be a threat."

A graph the committee includes in the report shows an analysis of data collected with Onavo, detailing how commonly apps were used by Facebook owned and rival services.

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In 2013, Facebook offered to buy rival Snapchat for $3bn (£2.32bn). It acquired Instagram a year earlier for $1bn.

In 2014, the company successfully acquired WhatsApp for $19bn in cash and shares.

Limiting Vine
The report also details the way the company could shut off access to its services to competitors.

For example, in 2013 Facebook founder and chief executive Mark Zuckerberg was informed about the launch of the Vine video service by social media rival Twitter.

He was told via email that Twitter was going to allow Vine users to find friends on Facebook.

"Unless anyone raises objections, we will shut down their friends' API access today." the email read - a move that would prevent Vine users from inviting their Facebook friends to the service.

Zuckerberg agreed to the move, replying "Yup, go for it."

Twitter eventually chose to close Vine in 2016.

Whitelisting
According to the report, as of November 2013, more than 5,000 apps on Facebook were "whitelisted", meaning that they could gain special access to user data and the data of those user's Facebook friends.

Whitelisted companies included ride-hailing app Lyft, Airbnb and Netflix.

An internal email discussed linking a yearly spend of $250,000 on advertising to maintain company access to user Facebook data.

An email from Mr Zuckerberg, sent in October 2012, outlined his scepticism about the risk of data leaks happening between Facebook application developers.

"I think we leak info to developers, but I just can't think of any instances where that data has leaked from developer to developer and caused a real issue for us," he wrote.

Last year, Facebook was fined £500,000 by the UK's data protection watchdog for its role in the Cambridge Analytica scandal.

The Information Commissioner's Office said that the social media giant had given developers access to user data "without clear consent".

User data which was collected through a personality quiz was used by Cambridge Analytica to profile potential voters.

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Holy fuck at that infographic. It actually has an Orange Man Bad icon :story:

Who didn't suspect Facebook was doing this kind of shit? Power is always abused by people who have it, especially if they have personal incentives to do so.
ZUCK: yea so if you ever need info about anyone at harvard
ZUCK: just ask
ZUCK: i have over 4000 emails, pictures, addresses, sns
FRIEND: what!? how'd you manage that one?
ZUCK: people just submitted it
ZUCK: i don't know why
ZUCK: they "trust me"
ZUCK: dumb fucks
Supposedly those aren't even the most damaging messages he sent to friends in the beginning. There are more that have never been released.
 
It pisses me off to no end when stories like this break and when it comes time to fine companies, they dole out amounts that are comparatively nothing.

The Cambridge Analytical thing only cost Facebook half a million euros, when they bought out a competing social media platform for almost 20 billion.

This, if they're unlucky, might cost them between 200 million and 500 million.

They're not going to do s h i t until they start getting hit with big amounts, and god forbid we hold silicone valley accountable.
 
It pisses me off to no end when stories like this break and when it comes time to fine companies, they dole out amounts that are comparatively nothing.

The Cambridge Analytical thing only cost Facebook half a million euros, when they bought out a competing social media platform for almost 20 billion.

This, if they're unlucky, might cost them between 200 million and 500 million.

They're not going to do s h i t until they start getting hit with big amounts, and god forbid we hold silicone valley accountable.

Why is the thing Cambridge Analytica is alleged to have done considered to be that outrageous, though? It's the kind of thing I assume all "social media" Silicon Valley companies are enabling all the time with their data collection. If you're not paying, you're the product, and I always assumed these platforms were selling our data. (Null plz don't sell our shitposting data.)

Profiling users to target them with political propaganda is no different than profiling them in order to better advertise products to them, and we've known for a long time Silicon Valley companies are doing that. I don't think anything would have happened to CA at all if there were no "hacked election!!1" meme to push.

The "outrage" reminds me so much of the leftist anger that Drumphf tells lies! Am I really supposed to believe nobody on the left knew this was the business Facebook is in?
 
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He was told via email that Twitter was going to allow Vine users to find friends on Facebook.

"Unless anyone raises objections, we will shut down their friends' API access today." the email read - a move that would prevent Vine users from inviting their Facebook friends to the service.

Zuckerberg agreed to the move, replying "Yup, go for it."

Twitter eventually chose to close Vine in 2016.
Facebook killed vine confirmed.
 
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