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This guy sure loves to talk about how he was instrumental in removing Vic from multiple cons.
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This one is going to age well
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e: Jesus this balding fuck tweets too much.
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Here is the policy update mentioned on stream. I wonder if any other 'known bad actors' are banned.
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This tard was scared to make accusations on Racket's stream, but too dumb to delete them from his twitter. Room temperature IQ everyone.
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So one the conventions he works for is in Texas? What was that about the principle implicating the business or something in Texas? Are the other conventions this guy works for in Texas? Ohhh boy...
 
So one the conventions he works for is in Texas? What was that about the principle implicating the business or something in Texas? Are the other conventions this guy works for in Texas? Ohhh boy...
He claims to work for A-kon and Nomikai. Both are Texas conventions.
 
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I wanna know who what Kick Vick Members were feeding our brother Shane. If they're as dumb as Marsgirl or Shane for EVEN HINTING that there was a war room set up to rip Vic down, we're in for a rollercoaster.
 
Anime News Network's co-founder and current columnist admits there are worse people than Mignogna in the industry. They just aren't going to report on them because they won't bring in the clicks.
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So according to ANN co-founder basically this shit has been going on for years. Vic isn't even the worst one. Some people just decided to use him as the fall guy because as various sources have documented, he's not a LGBT friendly harasser lol.

But still, instead of some sort of HR civil court thing, they decided to organize Beth Elderkin and Marzgurl for a social media takedown?
 
I wanna know who what Kick Vick Members were feeding our brother Shane. If they're as dumb as Marsgirl or Shane for EVEN HINTING that there was a war room set up to rip Vic down, we're in for a rollercoaster.

Somebody said that they saw the Discord chat screen, and at one point even people in his Discord were facepalming and telling Shane to shut the fuck up. I dunno if anybody cares to go back through the video and see.
 
He claims to work for A-kon and Nomikai. Both are Texas conventions.
Yeah it says that in his LinkedIn profile. But you know what I find suspicious about that?

He says works for 2-3 anime conventions. 2-3? You mean he doesnt know the exact amount he works for?
It says hes a System Engineer too while working for the convention. Maybe the convention thing is part time but does a System engineer live in a ratty apartment like that?

Somethings up. @zedkissed60 can you give this guy a thorough doxing to see if he actually works for these conventions?
 
Anime News Network's co-founder and current columnist admits there are worse people than Mignogna in the industry. They just aren't going to report on them because they won't bring in the clicks.
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So according to ANN co-founder basically this shit has been going on for years. Vic isn't even the worst one. Some people just decided to use him as the fall guy because as various sources have documented, he's not a LGBT friendly harasser lol.

But still, instead of some sort of HR civil court thing, they decided to organize Beth Elderkin and Marzgurl for a social media takedown?

So ANN is refusing to open the floodgates and have their own "Spotlight" moment, because they're afraid people won't read it? Are they fucking high?

I'd also like to see the metrics for Pensacon and how many people were arrested since that took place this weekend. If attendance is down, they'll spin it to people being afraid of IStandWithVic vigilantism. If it went up, they're standing in solidarity against the hate.
 
Somebody said that they saw the Discord chat screen, and at one point even people in his Discord were facepalming and telling Shane to shut the fuck up. I dunno if anybody cares to go back through the video and see.

That was one of Nicks boys though. So it would be alleged. Unless Nick has a man on the inside that he doesn't know about, of which I don't know if the kickvick crew could use that as a defense if it were true. But it's obvious he had someone that was feeding him info. Imagine if a Funi or Sony employee was involved.
 
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Somebody said that they saw the Discord chat screen, and at one point even people in his Discord were facepalming and telling Shane to shut the fuck up. I dunno if anybody cares to go back through the video and see.
Im watching for the first time now that its uploaded and havent seen discord yet, however he does slip up at 39:00-39:12 and mention he's viewing discord while talking to the lawyer guy. will let you guys know if he actually screenshares it.
 
Im watching for the first time now that its uploaded and havent seen discord yet, however he does slip up at 39:00-39:12 and mention he's viewing discord while talking to the lawyer guy. will let you guys know if he actually screenshares it.
The "40K" viewers or some shit.
 
Someone brought up in the old thread that the Gizmodo article was written by Beth Elderkin, former CA contributor, who is of course long time friends with Marzgurl.

Marzgurl seems strangely intent on doing her own digging. But to her credit, she was able to find someone.



When he was working at a school as a cameraman, he befriended a girl who was 15. He asked her to come to his house, and she went, and he attempted to force himself on her. When she repeatedly told him no, he backed off and told her to leave.

She also posted evidence of him in her yearbook.

Another woman comes in and says while she was at the same school she heard he was fired for being inappropriate with students.

So it might turn out the allegations may have held weight. But since these people are a complete bunch of fuckwits who decided to go to the twitter mob hashtag first instead of the court, they virtually torpedoed their own fucking case.
The accuser in that chain of tweets didn't provide any proof she attended the school, that Vic ever worked or volunteered at that school, where that school is, it reads like bad fanfiction, and she doesn't have the journal or her mom to confirm this happened? D.C. Douglas pops in, and to his credit, asks for confirmation and she doesn't answer. Some random dude provides obviously incorrect proof.

The woman who "confirmed" this story literally created her account before responding and also can't confirm that he ever taught at that school, or her school if it's separate. Her proof is a picture of Vic Mignogna as a coach, apparently, but this makes no fucking sense, if he was her English teacher she should had a staff page. It also contradicts the person above her's claims that Vic was a cameraman at a church and working in a theater production, unless these are supposed to be different years? I can only find that he was born in 1962, so it's possible, but the personal page the wiki provides as a source says he taught DRAMA in Texas and was a cameraman for sports, not a coach, and this doesn't match either of their accounts. Did he switch teaching roles? Maybe he did, this is sort of common in teaching. Can anyone find out who the hell the woman actually providing these accusations is, and where she went to school? If Vic was 26, this should be during his time in Virginia or Florida. Vic says on his site where he taught, the Art Institute of Houston. If you couldn't tell, this is not a public high school, and it's in Texas. Maybe he taught before he moved to Houston, but his bio gives no indication he did, only that he acted and played music.

If this is the best they have (it's straight up out of the statute of limitations too) they're still fucked.

EDIT: The second woman claims it was Trinity Christian in Florida, and wiki claims he moved to Houston in 1990, so if this was in 1986-1987 it's possible, but his official site claims, or makes it seem like, he was in Virginia before moving to Houston, so he moved from Florida after getting fired from this school (presumably) to Virginia, did a whole lot there, including trying to sleep with this girl, and then moved to Houston? Or is Virginia before Florida? I dunno. I can't find any sources that he ever taught in Florida or taught English, and this woman admits she can't prove he taught there and only has that one picture. HOW CAN YOU NOT PROVE THIS IN ANY WAY? The original person sounds more believable considering he WAS a cameraman by his own admittance, but the second woman is posting him from an obviously different school year from the first woman, since he was 24 then instead of 26. Her "proof" isn't proof at all. We have one woman who made claims with no proof, and a woman confirming these claims with lackluster proof about a different year entirely. If she's not attempting to confirm these claims, she's only proving that Vic was a coach once, seemingly, and otherwise providing only rumors. The timeline is making my head hurt, he was fired from this supposed Christian school at 24/25, but then was working at it at 26 to molest this girl when he should have been moving to Houston around then?
 
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Anime News Network's co-founder and current columnist admits there are worse people than Mignogna in the industry. They just aren't going to report on them because they won't bring in the clicks.
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So according to ANN co-founder basically this shit has been going on for years. Vic isn't even the worst one. Some people just decided to use him as the fall guy because as various sources have documented, he's not a LGBT friendly harasser lol.

But still, instead of some sort of HR civil court thing, they decided to organize Beth Elderkin and Marzgurl for a social media takedown?
Older Kiwis are probably more used to situations similar to this, but it is insane to see it play out in real time. We have hundreds to thousands of autists screaming 'hey, you ALL might want to shut up and consult legal consul, because you may be getting sued' and yet people are continuing to dig their own graves and provide more evidence to their opposition. And they are all doing it for nothing more than a twitter like from a random internet nobody. It boggles the mind. I feel like Frank Grimes after he went insane on the Simpsons because nobody could see Homer was an idiot.
will let you guys know if he actually screenshares it
He doesn't, he screenshares a google result for TI of a contract while Rackets keeps asking about TI of prospective? business.
 
So ANN is refusing to open the floodgates and have their own "Spotlight" moment, because they're afraid people won't read it? Are they fucking high?

I'd also like to see the metrics for Pensacon and how many people were arrested since that took place this weekend. If attendance is down, they'll spin it to people being afraid of IStandWithVic vigilantism. If it went up, they're standing in solidarity against the hate.

You can see on Twitter whats been happening at Pensacon.

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What I don't get is. Apparently this Vic debacle happened over 15 years or so. These people have been with him that long, and none of them decided, at any point to document something, anything, find a girl that seemed upset after meeting him and take her to the police, take a photo or video of him being inappropriate with a young girl, being harassed by him and reporting him to their own HR. At least something.

But if they haven't got anything, and all they have is a social media crusade, and spoken accounts, then they've been complicit in this, acting chummy with him this entire time, years and years, and if the ANN co-founder is truthful, much worse people for decades. Even if everything they say is completely true, they themselves fucked up so bad they have made the entire thing just look like a co-ordinated smear job because he wouldn't bang you that one time.
 
But if they haven't got anything, and all they have is a social media crusade, and spoken accounts, then they've been complicit in this, acting chummy with him this entire time, years and years, and if the ANN co-founder is truthful, much worse people for decades.

Why are they covering up all these even worse rapists they claim to know about? What do these rapists have on them in the way of blackmail material? Is there some reason they picked just this one supposed rapist but have decided to just let the others keep raping away merrily?
 
Why are they covering up all these even worse rapists they claim to know about? What do these rapists have on them in the way of blackmail material? Is there some reason they picked just this one supposed rapist but have decided to just let the others keep raping away merrily?
Justin seems to be unaware that as a news site nothing is preventing him from writing about these topics, he did for Vic. The only way he could be blackmailed is if he has relationships with a bunch of VAs in the industry, which doesn't exactly lend credence to the claim that there was no conspiracy to get Vic fired. His argument makes no sense, if you started with the obvious ones that are worse than Vic, we would have more likely believed the accusations against him. That's why #MeToo started with Weinstein.
 
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