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In Batman: TAS, Two-Face's debut was better than Mr. Freeze's, though I admit that has a lot to do with the series introducing Harvey in earlier episodes and giving Two-Face a two-parter.
Unpopular Opinions About Western Animation
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It was like that and sometime heroes didn't always win their showdowns.
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Oh, nice! I really like it when shows don't have the heroes always coming out on top.
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in regards to TLA, it's because it didn't speak down to it's targeted audience, ADD Kids;
I just thought it was a good show, not amazing, but good.
With Korra I agree that I have no idea why it gets repped as a "mature" series.
Korra was so fucking awful that I stopped watching after book 1. I left it for Wakfu not soon after and I made a good call.
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Speaking of Korra, was anyone else annoyed how fast the technology advanced between TLA and Korra? I know that it was about a 70 year gap, but what looked like Renaissance era before now has cars, high-powered electronic weapons, and radios.
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tbf the fire nation and earth kingdom and some pretty advanced shit for it's era (the former had coal powered tech, weapons factories, a fire net to keep the sea-mexicans out and was right at steampunk's door and the latter had trains and shit powered by its benders)
plus the fire nation had a fuck ton of metal and the power to work it while earth kingdom got that power (without fire) by the end of the series
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I was and so was this man at 12:40 see:
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Much of the technology you mention was either bender powered like the drill or taking advantage of their land's geography. Even then, it's silly to have have an effectively modern Western world in not just technology but fashions and politics in such a relatively short amount of time. They went as far to have too much of the advancements come from one company.
They should have had a longer time frame between TLA and LoK. I'm talking at least a full century. This would not only at least give more time for the situation LoK starts as but will let the TLA cast be safely dead instead of sticking in for fanservice.
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I don't get why Avatar fans nitpick the "lore" of Korra so hard. I haven't seen either but it seems kind of exceptional to deconstruct how this fictional universe couldn't have invented tv and radio in 70 years when they can also control electricity and have fire coming out their anus. I know there's other, legitimate criticisms of both shows that I fuck with but those criticisms seem awfully inconsequential, it's a work of escapist fiction of course it's going to be an unrealistic world unlike our own.
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Again if they wanted to make a pseudo-20th Century West Avatar then they should have a larger gap between the shows. Or just made a new IP?
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It isn’t about having radios or what have you.
It’s the fact that the aesthetic and tech was ripped directly from the turn of the century/1920s era without adapting it to the ATLA universe.
I think Mr.Metokur (?) made several vids about how ATlA already had their own version of public transport etc. and instead of expanding on that they just went whole hog steampunk and created a world where bending was more like a quirk rather than THE exploitable resource it was shown to be.
Lightning bending for energy should never have been a thing for obvious reasons.
At least it shouldn’t have been some kind of piddly day laborer schtick that any fire bender could pick up. This technique was supposed to have been so dangerous it was just as likely to kill the bender it came from.
Regarding the aesthetic. Atla is a Asian fantasy.
Soooo...
Why is everyone dressed like they were colonized by 19th century Britain?
Waistcoats and corsets etc. are western aesthetic choices Asians chose to wear in order to imitate and fit in with their colonial overlords. In our world, I mean.
This goes for the Art Deco architecture, too. Like, where are the massive pagodas, and soaring spired temples? Why are the colors so goddamn drab?
Is there a reason why the art direction couldn’t come up with a theoretical aesthetic based around Asian artistic values?
Besides being creatively bankrupt?
LoK being a visual medium wasn’t even interesting to look at because of this.
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Bending in TLA was treated as a martial art with seperate schools of great spiritual significance (that is, it wasn't all about bloodlines but spirtuality hence Katara seeing the Painted Lady and the Air Nomads having the largest bending population). Bending in LoK was treated more like Mutant powers that you have and by Book 3 you don't even need to be spirituality compatible to get it or be an Air Nomad.
They just dumped lightningbending on Mako since he's supposed to be a cool character doing cool actions. He was even called a "Zuko without the angst" (read: Zuko without his past and character arc).
LoK has a problem of escalating the scale of bending. Back in TLA lightningbending was treated as a rare technique exclusive to the Fire Nation's royalty, lavabending only done by the Avatar, metalbending only done by Toph. LoK had the likes of Mako lightningbend, squads of cops doing metalbending, and a loser like Bolin lavabending.
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Gonna blow your minds here: Cartoon characters act weird because they're cartoons, not because they're gay, mentally ill, or struggling with deep childhood trauma.
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The only good dark cartoon theory iirc is Post Apocalyptic Flintstones/Jetsons.
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Yeah, same, I've tried to be sensible but honestly every film from Disney in the last years has been mediocre and made mostly to pander to different demographics (black people, gamers, superhero nerds, feminists...). The last true Disney film which was pretty good and had a "Disney" feel was probably Tangled or Wreck It Ralph (and the last excellent Disney film was probably Lilo and Stitch tbh). Everything after 2012 is just mediocre or serviceable, but just not epic or magical enough. Meh, maybe it's time I grew up, but on the other hand, in these years I found just much better and more magical animated movies that filled me in ways Disney couldn't (Secret of Kells, Into the Spiderverse, Isle of Dogs).
Same. I sorta...admire? it for tackling 25+ years of Spider-man history in one series but man did the censors hurt them like hell. It just comes off as very over-dramatic and cheesy and hard to take seriously when compared to say, Batman or X-Men which was running around at the same time in the 90s.
Spectacular is still the best, but that was canned early in order for Disney to force their own series, which were just glorified MCU commercials...
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Spectacular Spider-Man was too good for this goddamn world! Too fucking good. Also, FUCK all of Disney's Marvel cartoons, sans Big Hero 6: TAS. Not a single fucking one of them are good. Not even one - and that's FACT. I will hear no arguments against this, no matter how good you might think they are.
I'll personally take laughing at how silly some stuff in 90's Spidey came off (not out of nostalgia, either - I don't play that game!) anyday over watching any of Disney's glorified crap that is a mockery of everything Marvel is supposed to be before the SJWs showed up, anyway.
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In all fairness even in TLA it was made clear those techniques were only "rare" because most people just wrote them off as too difficult/impossible without even trying.
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A cartoon guy in a dress does not require 100 page essay on "how it relates" to a person's personal psychosis. It's a joke to be laughed at and moved on.
I miss an old school anvil pratfall
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I miss old school slapstick comedy in general - we could use more of that, as long as it's done well, of course.
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We all do.
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That makes me wonder, when was the last cartoon to have good, old school slapstick? I remember Ed, Edd & Eddy having some.