Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

  • Total voters
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If you paid attention to the gear and the tactics the shooter used its very obvious he
  1. Has a military background with possible wartime experience
  2. Has been practicing for this day for a long time
  3. Was familiar with the mosque itself
This guy was a pro. In his video he didnt miss at all nor do he make any mistakes with his firearms. He even had a flasher to blind his targets.

Lol no. He made tons of mistakes.

He was a good shot, I'll give him that, but that's all range experience. His mag discipline was awful - getting tackled shouldn't throw your ammo all over the hall. He wasn't checking his corners, wasn't counting his shots, fumbled with his mags; wasn't used to reloading with actual adrenaline pumping, definitely was never taught how to clear a room, just how to run a course at a range. Again, if someone had sacked up with 7:03, he'd probably have been done. That's something that happens to you when you're used to running through a course dumping rounds into static dummies, but the short of shit that gets you yelled at by the range instructor if you do it during actual MOUT.

He definitely spent some time at the range, though not missing with an AR-15 at < 50 feet doesn't take a lot of skill.
The bit that got me going "Jesus...fuck." was the fact he left, took a minute, then came back in to see if anyone was playing dead. And that's definitely not something they teach in any military course.

He was also obviously out of shape, breathing hard as he jogged to his car.

He also missed some very obvious things from a body count perspective, like having some sort of incendiary device to start a fire as he left.
 
8chan did this
Yeah I'm sure personal responsibility, horrible things sometimes happening when there are billions of people on earth, and a terminally ill society have nothing to do with it.

It's fucking autistic that all the internet people reporting on it are focusing so much on a random Youtube man who is only tangentially connected. I would doubt they would ever watch the footage to see there are far far more horrible things than "subscribe to pewdiepie" but that's to be expected.

Who is the dead person in the OP though? It's highly unlikely that's Tarrant especially with the news coverage saying only one shooter is in custody, nothing about one being dead.
There is no proof he is dead in the OP. I felt it was jumping the gun there and feel like I'm being proved right.
 
Is it really an Indian guy?

That's... probably for the best. Unless they edit it deceptively and post it on CNN.

If people must share the link, share the link to the 8chan thread(s) instead:
8ch.net/pol/res/12917428.html

I'm trying to talk about Chinese cartoons here and it's taking down the site.
 
Presser is due to start now.

8chan has archived the video footage and their thread contains links, but I expect that thread will disappear soon.
 
Oh dear leader @Null said he was toten. So if there are more I hope they are also gone and if not may they enjoy the wonder of ass rape instead of reform
 
Anybody here have a rough knowledge of New Zealand firearm laws? I'm curious just how legal the weaponry he had was, and how easily (or not) it could have been procured.
 
I haven't read to the end of this thread yet so sorry if I'm late but I watched the video twice like a minute after it was posted and it made me sick I feel sick now and won't probably be better for a day or two and fuck I was having such a nice positive day.

This is the most real or surreal example of what I've been worried about for over 20 years. We are raising people who don't give a fuck who when I was 8 or 5 I realized if we keep exposing people to the not give a fuck no one means shit mentality this generation is doomed and I'm 33 and this guy looks around my age and I'm terified of people coming out 15 years younger than me.

I used to call it cartoon mentality as a kid

Fast forward from preteen to 30s and now people are shooting people up and memeing (cartoon mentality) the whole way which is the disconnect of the digital age.

I'm just mad cause I saw this stuff coming up a long time ago and it's going to get a fuck load worse before it gets better in the world... I'm sorry I'm just depressed tonight now
I've been pondering this a while too, didn't know if it warranted a thread in Deep Thoughts, but I'm convinced the new generation is living off a baseline of apathy from being stuck behind a screen 70% of their lives, as well as being fed constant material and memes from the news media, social media, culture, you name it. There's a ridiculous disconnect that's only worsened by both mob mentality and said mob mentality forcing unwanteds out where they eventually start regrouping into insular ideologies and echo-chambers.
 
welp, there goes any kind of worthwhile discussion about immigration or national identity. yet another alt-right exceptional individual decides it's a good idea to shoot some random people to save da wite race. so now we get to hear about this forever, just like the robert bowers thing. why can't these morons just kill themselves instead of insisting on being a spectacle and shooting people who have no control over any of this?

the discourse will be poisoned even further by incidents like this until it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion about whether or not these people should be in western countries. you will literally never hear the end of it. every mainstreeam news outlet will blame this on the 'culture of hate' fomented by donnie dumpf once again. if you criticize immigration, you are evil and probably planning a mass shooting. that will be the narrative now.

that would be better, but it would still enable the threat narrative about people who are against immigration. the reality of the situation is that it doesn't matter how infrequent these events are, just one is enough to fuel a threat narrative for years and stigmatize any public expression of the base level sentiments this guy had. most people do not want masses of foreigners flooding into their countries, but you are now evil if you talk about that. it's all going right back where it was before trump, except worse because shit like this happened.

edit: i should add, i don't especially care for islam or for people who practice it, but these people have no control over the policies that brought them into NZ or any other western country. and given that our leaders give them every reason to come here and every advantage in doing so, you really cannot personally blame third-world immigrants for coming here. you would do the exact same in their position. the policies and the leaders and activist groups who promote the policies are the true problem. shit like this accomplishes nothing and just gives them more ways to poison the well.
This wasn't a "screw your optics I'm going in", it was a "shut the fuck up about optics and start shooting at the lefties, faggots" attack. He seems a lot more like those antifags who claim there is no such thing as civility with dealing with nazis and want to go right to the revolution and guillotining people, except he can actually kill.
 
Most of the questions and uncertainties people are having about this could easily be answered by the shooter himself in the manifesto.
 
The thing that fucks me up the most is the fact that whites are already capitulating to appease nonwhites socially. Fucking 7/11 Indians are the only fucks to challenge bluecheckmarked muslims in response to this and actually counter them instead of sucking on their assholes like the subdued indoctrinated trahs that whites have become.
yup, exactly what i was saying in my previous post. shit like this will only make it worse and provide yet another cudgel to beat white westerners over the head with.
"we are working to have the footage removed"
lol good fucking luck bucko
 
Of course verified twitter is doing exactly what the shooter wanted without any semblance of the consequences of their actions and blocking anyone that reveals how much of a fucking retard they are, then scrubbing the evidence of their stupidity.
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I haven't read to the end of this thread yet so sorry if I'm late but I watched the video twice like a minute after it was posted and it made me sick I feel sick now and won't probably be better for a day or two and fuck I was having such a nice positive day.

This is the most real or surreal example of what I've been worried about for over 20 years. We are raising people who don't give a fuck who when I was 8 or 5 I realized if we keep exposing people to the not give a fuck no one means shit mentality this generation is doomed and I'm 33 and this guy looks around my age and I'm terified of people coming out 15 years younger than me.

I used to call it cartoon mentality as a kid

Fast forward from preteen to 30s and now people are shooting people up and memeing (cartoon mentality) the whole way which is the disconnect of the digital age.

I'm just mad cause I saw this stuff coming up a long time ago and it's going to get a fuck load worse before it gets better in the world... I'm sorry I'm just depressed tonight now

Listen. Don't worry and just take a few breaths. Maybe reading this thread is not right at this moment if you feel sick.
Take a break. Its okay.

As for your fear, i wouldn't worry. There are 7,690,382,878 people on the planet as of this moment. This was 1-3 people in an isolated incident and the only one to have been doing it like this so far.
The fear of copycats are always there, and maybe there will be copycats, but as of now, this is just one person. If this was a growing epidemic i think we would have seen more. There are those who are hyping this up on boards but you can't really tell who is LARPing.

So relax for now, okay? If it becomes an epidemic we can start worrying. But as of now there are 7billion people on this earth. This was 1-3 people.
 
Police presser has been pushed back 30 minutes.
 
Anybody here have a rough knowledge of New Zealand firearm laws? I'm curious just how legal the weaponry he had was, and how easily (or not) it could have been procured.
i am interested to know this as well, does NZ have compliance laws for semi-auto rifles like california, massachusetts, etc have in the US? the picture of the rifle looks a lot like a CA-compliant AR:
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