Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[millais]

So, like, is it going to be latest fad for shooters to use gopros on their foreheads to capture all their kills? ?

Only if they have a good enough data plan to stream or they are doing the shooting in an area with free wifi. Otherwise no one except the police investigators will ever see the footage.

 

[d12]

You don't think American media isn't going to use this as an excuse to push for gun grabbing?

Media can whine all they want, no doubt the blue states will want to put in more restrictions and other stuff but the red states will keep on praising the 2nd Amendment as God's gift to the constitution. ie Same old same old

 

[Orderabi]

Note that in his manifest he can't say he's christian but all his concerns are somehow for the sake of cross. So I'm assuming he's mostly in love with christian culture rather than the religion itself. But then which christian culture? Some christian societies in europe are extreme alien to each other that they wouldn't probably prefer to live under one dominant culture chosen by templars or whatsoever.

Anyone has idea what's his real take on that?

 

[roxitp0w3rwuzdabest420]

Our international trade and exports/imports

I doubt a terrorist attack by a edgelord would end trade between NZ and usa. And even if it did why the fuck would conservatives and liberals begin murdering each other in the street because of it? What no more lotr movies is going to cause a civil war?

 

[BingBong]

You've got to wonder how many people will be inspired to do something similar.

 

[Spooky]

You know, sometimes I wonder in these manifestos if they truly mean that. There's a section early on that's all about making people in the USA fight over firearm ownership and the 2nd amendment and flare up the two extreme opposing sides again, which leads to suppression and removal of firearms rights, which leads to civil war in the USA. Which, first off, dude, your shooting in another country is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back in the United States? Optimistic thinking.

But really like, wouldn't telling someone your diabolical machinations ruin the results? It seems counter intuitive to tell someone you're trying to manipulate them, that usually gets people defensive against, well, manipulation of that sort.

But then again who knows, maybe they don't expect enough people to read the manifesto, or they figure knowing isn't going to matter because it will happen anyways, or maybe they just don't care anymore.

The media will bite and hard on everything. Even stuff they don't bite on will have the desired effect with people on social media. I have to admit the manifesto was well crafted. He will get all the attention he ever wanted.

Well that's simply horrible. If these people wanted so badly to end the Muslim menace they should've flown out and kamikazed themselves at some ISIS troops instead of shooting up a bunch of unarmed people minding their own business. Wish the guy who'd charged him had managed to get him down.

He spells out in his manifesto that he has no problem with Muslims in their own lands doing whatever. I'm not sure you have a good grasp of his ideology or the general ideology he swam in.

He's a Nazi in the general sense but specifically he's an environmental/green fascist on top of the race shit. It looks like his fascism is a pretty eclectic hodgepodge of things and memes.

Most fascists are eco/green to a greater or lesser extent these days.

So, like, is it going to be latest fad for shooters to use gopros on their foreheads to capture all their kills? ?

It will make it a lot easier for police to engage safely with them, so hopefully.

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

You don't think American media isn't going to use this as an excuse to push for gun grabbing?

I doubt it, since liberals use New Zealand as one of the many great examples of nations with "great (((common sense gun control)))". It would seem kinda counter intuitive to praise a state for one thing yet use a tragedy that just happened relating to it to push for it.

 

[bearycool]

People won't admit it, but we're all terrible.

In the end, everyone is a raging, screaming A-log that crave drama.

 

[mindlessobserver]

That's the interesting thing isn't it. We had ISIS beheading people and not only uploading the videos to youtube, but them being allowed to keep recruiting of facebook and the like. Many people have gone in depth about Radical Islam and what their history and goals are. Some people are even sympathetic because they see it as Islam acting out against oppression.

But this one guy who killed 30 people at a mosque one day will be held up as the ultimate example that the white male must die. You'll see it soon.

That is how the escalation cycle begins you know. The nutjobs on one side decide to "do something", which leads to the nut jobs on the other side "doing something too". It just snowballs from there drawing in more and more people. The only thing that has ever stopped people going about on personal revenge rampages John Wick style is the belief in the authority of the State to administer justice and provide security. So long as people have faith and fidelity with their Government, they will not take things into their own hands and push the escalation chain foreword.

those same governments that up to now have happily imported the third world into their societies, and are becoming staffed with people who demean the native populations as racist for daring to question them. These sorts of incidents are inevitable, and there will be more of them. We are not so far removed from Chimpanzees that we are not above sudden outbursts of violence against "the other". We have come a long way towards mitigating this problem, but part of that mitigation has relied on the understanding that we ARE capable of irrational violence. The "lets all hold hands and sing kumbaya" Left wants to believe we are all innocent little angels and that it was some bad mean european based racist evil stuff that prevents us all from living in harmony.

Ignoring of course that the Europe of the 16th and 17th centuries was a Europe that had come out of some pretty brutal shit, where any contact with the "diversity" beyond the borders of Europe inevitably meant horrendous bloodletting. Be it Turkish invasion, Ummayad invasions, Mongol Invasions, Viking Invasions. The History Europe from 400 to 1600 was one of constantly trying to prevent the whole thing getting wiped out by that particular centuries invading horde. You could view the age of colonialism as the boot being on the other foot as opposed to some sort of evil master plan. Hatred of Muslims runs deep in western society, and it is a direct result of Muslims attacking Western society repeatedly over the centuries entirely unprovoked. We are not going to overcome that history by pretending it does not exist.

 

[meinhausinneuberlin]

You've got to wonder how many people will be inspired to do something similar.

As harmful opinions pointed out it appears that what he was trying to do worked

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Only if they have a good enough data plan to stream or they are doing the shooting in an area with free wifi. Otherwise no one except the police investigators will ever see the footage.

Anybody who doesn't choose an unlimited data plan is exceptional.

 

[GrungyLawnChlorinate]

Obama advisor calls Ardern's election 'bright spot' amid populist wave

Top US political advisor John Podesta says NZ's PM connects with people, but is different to the populism that elected Trump.

i.stuff.co.nz

As well as the situation in the US, Britain had voted for Brexit, a number of European countries had voted for staunch anti-immigration parties, while social media had created unrest in countries from India to Brazil.

"That phenomena is real and structural and I think, particularly the big social media platforms, Facebook, Google, YouTube, have been slow to respond to that," Podesta said.

"That's dangerous, dangerous for democratic values and dangerous for human rights, where people can get whipped into a frenzy through those channels.

"The danger is all over the world."

John Podesta part of delegation visiting New Zealand a few days ago.

2020 New Zealand election a 'juicy target' for major hack - John Podesta

Clinton's former campaign manager says we should be "very worried" by Russia and China.

www.newshub.co.nz

"What's new is this weaponisation - the use of social media to spread discord, lies, dissatisfaction - that's I think what you've got to look out for," he says.

Why is Jon Podesta speaking on technology, automation, and climate change in New Zealand? He is famous for being technologically retarded. Hmm.

What McKinsey & Co, Bill Clinton adviser and top business are saying about automation - The Fifth Estate

Automation promises significant sustainability upside in waste reduction and efficiencies. McKinsey & Company says the rewards could also be strongly financial.

www.thefifthestate.com.au

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

So, like, is it going to be latest fad for shooters to use gopros on their foreheads to capture all their kills? ?

Welcome to this entire decade. Liveleak is swarmed with these kinds of videos from Syria and Donetsk. It's part of how it was rather easy for me to sit through this footage. I've practically seen this play out countless times just reskinned to a different setting. Hell, the jihadis in Syria have the good HD gopros too.

 

[Sissy Galvez]

Wow shit is crazy. How many Muslims are dead?

 

[AnOminous]

Media can whine all they want, no doubt the blue states will want to put in more restrictions and other stuff but the red states will keep on praising the 2nd Amendment as God's gift to the constitution. ie Same old same old

It has literally nothing to do with U.S. law in any way that anyone will care about. People will say some shit. It isn't even in the U.S. Nobody can say if we had the stricter laws NZ has, this wouldn't have happened, because they have those laws, and it happened.

 

[TimeSphere]

Boy I'm sure glad all those innocent people were killed so the world may finally know the terror of PewDiePie and Candace Owens

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Brenton Tarrant, you might be the most successful mass shooter in history. Your manifesto has targeted so many groups, people, ideologies, memes and video games. You're gonna have historians scratching their heads for decades. Welcome to the new age of millennial shooters

He did for firearm violence with his painted up rifles, what James Joyce did in Finnegan's Wake with his typewriter. Neither promoted their art.

 

[The Demon]

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Nice to see it beginning... in the future.

so wait, with all this talk about how this shooter was saying "subscribe to pewdiepie" did none of us actually check to see how it impacted the numbers?

this taken at march 14, 2019 at 10:25 PM pacific time i think

 

[Shaka Brah]

Motives unclear.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

In the end, everyone is a raging, screaming A-log that crave drama.

Yup. At least we're honest about it.