Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

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So he hates multiculturalism and wants to preserve western culture but likes anime*, a media that convinced thousands of kids to learn eastern language, history, tradition, food, and music. What a fucking goof.
*estimating considering he knows anime memes
Bro, you like the standard business suit? Why so Englishboo. You have to open up your country to be colonized by the asshole of the world because you like something else someone else did. It just makes sense.
 
Muslims aren't innocent and sure as hell aren't people.

If you genuinely believe this than you're a terrible person. If you're joking about it you're still a terrible person. The last thing we need in this world is more hate.

Where's your bleeding heart for the countless murder and rape victims of radical islam daily and world-wide? 50's kind of a small number, by comparison.

Though, I take your point in reverse: Every time there's an islamic slaughter or pedo ring, the liberals worry about what the "alt-right" might do.

Also: inb4 Antifa unlocks the gunpowder ability tree.

Here, let me give you just a few examples of my "bleeding heart" for the victims of Islamic terror. Oh, and by the way, the biggest victims of Islamic terrorism are other Muslims.

I just don't believe that terrorism and murder is the correct response to terrorism and murder. This guy didn't go after ISIS. He didn't go after Boko Haram. He went after the Muslims in his community who did absolutely nothing to him or anyone else. He's a monster and you're encouraging people like him.
 
That's par for the course for /pol/. Ethnonationalists aren't immune to "it's okay when we like it".

And no, I don't believe that the worst part of the incident isn't a possible crackdown at all. The worst part is how much of a sociopath this guy is,

No, the worst part about this shooting is that the shooters succeeded with their short-term political objectives.

They wanted the media to slander Pewdiepie fans, 8chan users and others as violent extremists that must be cracked down on. The whole plan is admittedly long game but its still a plan to drive non-neoliberal views underground so that they can fester and become violent. Everything was to divide people to create some kind of Helter Skelter in the distant future.

Of course, I really doubt this all. I actually think this dumb manifesto was created so that we'd talk about them and I think they're just attention whores. Even with that in mind though, the media basically told any political violent extremists that they'll fall for the trick. We will see a trend of these attacks in the near future.
 
In the minds of many, this is a war. ISIS fights for their moon god, this guy fought for his culture. They're both heroes to their respective "sides". Ideological tug of war on the global scale.

The most interesting thing about this to me is the survivors. Does this erode their faith? If your god can't, or won't, protect you, even while you are literally prostrating yourself to him... what's the point? Can a person continue beyond this with faith? Moreover, even if you could continue to believe, why? What's the motivation?
Heroes to the retards who think ISIS has a point and the other side who thinks some retarded neo-Nazi has a point.
I wish I knew more about cricket, there's an awesome conspiracy about how this is all an elaborate cover up of a failed attempt by a rival cricket team for cricket-related reasons that's just hanging there, waiting to be unmasked.
Cricket players don't do jack shit, they play some shitty version of baseball. Look up "cricket fights" and they don't do anything, since the worst cricket fights are what the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, etc. are doing every couple weeks in the regular season (which is toned down from back in the day in the 80s/90s when if you went to Fenway Park or Yankee Stadium in the wrong gear you would get your ass beat). Cricket is insanely polite.
Pretty much, a lot of white supremacists have absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. It's even more tragic when you remember that Tarrant is a white Australian, whose ancestors were most likely involved in or connected to the colonization of aboriginal land in some way - but he chose to rant about "invaders" in his manifesto.
It's might makes right in his worldview, and since he's going to jail for the rest of his life, he's lost in the exact same way the Maori who resisted the British or the Aboriginals who likewise fought the British and lost. But he knows he's going to win in his own way.
They wanted the media to slander Pewdiepie fans, 8chan users and others as violent extremists that must be cracked down on. His whole plan is admittedly long game but its still a plan to drive non-neoliberal views underground so that they can fester and become violent. Everything was to divide people to create some kind of Helter Skelter in the distant future.
Yep, he winning.
 
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At worst he's accelerated already present trends, he was presumably working on the assumption this would accelerate some sort of Europian revolt via antagonism but societal trends are nuging towards a stagnent sanitised dystopia not some sort of apocalyptic race war. He's most likely sped up leglislation by about 2-8 months tops by increasing public will behind such things
In the grand scheme of things he may as well have not done it or he's made it slightly worse for people with his dumb beliefs.
Could be, but judging by the initial reaction he might have succeded and the media shitstorm will be great.
 
Pretty much, a lot of white supremacists have absolutely no self awareness whatsoever. It's even more tragic when you remember that Tarrant is a white Australian, whose ancestors were most likely involved in or connected to the colonization of aboriginal land in some way - but he chose to rant about "invaders" in his manifesto.
Same guys that laugh about africans blaming whitey for all their problems go straight to THE JEWS to explain why they aren't on top of the world. Authoritarians are all the same.
 
My bad then, but I still disagree with Cosmos besides the de-humanizing part. I don't find killing people doing nothing funny, but connecting this to right-wing extremism is tantamount to virtue-signalling. That would be like me demanding gay or black people apologize for or denounce Jussie Smollet for faking his attack when at best the only people who should do that is Jussie himself and the people who wanted to use his "story" as ammunition to attack their political opponents. That is simply sheer cowardice.

I don't know what you categorize as right-wing extremism but massacring a bunch of Musilms to start a race war is like textbook right-wing extremism. His goal was literally to create a White Nationalist uprising in America.
 
I don't hate feminists, not one bit - I'm el supremo in my home because the menfolk put all women on pedestals, it's the way they were brought up - I've just always enjoyed an environment where women are Goddesses, because they deserve to be, & they embrace their role naturally.

I'm not understanding your statement, "and the only way to stop terrorism is by teaching our women to respect themselves enough to demand equality" - I'm sorry but I've been studying islam for way over a decade, and anyone who thinks M/Eastern women can ever be saved from their horrific fate is perhaps not quite as informed in that regard as I am. It's also pretty hard to free them and/or "stop terrorism" when they deliberately set out to breed their own crop of martyrs. Perhaps it's 14 centuries of deliberate inbreeding & indoctrination that has sealed their fate, probably for the next however many centuries.

Western women, however, have an entirely different lot in life with many different options and paths available to them, no matter how dire their personal situations are. In my experience "demanding" usually gets one no-where except, perhaps, shut out. An enduring coal strike back in the days was finally brought to an end when ALL the wives cut off "benefits" to their husbands - women, it seems, were a whole lot smarter in those days, no need to run around like those Russian babes bearing their boobies & ending up in prison ;)

The only "hate I have in my heart" is for an ideology that some choose to call a religion - it is vile, evil to the core, and responsible for countless millions of deaths t/out history, and it WILL impact the future of my children and theirs, because WE are facilitating it, nay, welcoming it, paying for it, supporting it, and some morons even embracing it.
Lindsay, how did you get internet access in prison?
 
Great point, anybody crying about this only cares because they viewed NZ as "safe" like their own first world country.

Maybe this will convince the sand people to join a religion with better optics?

There were forty Muslim on Muslim Mosque attacks in 2018.

There have been four so far in 2019.

Of those forty attacks only three received much attention. One killed twenty-seven and wounded fifty and was widely covered. One killed forty-eight and wounded eighty and was also widely covered. A third which received virtually no attention killed twenty-two and injured twenty three.

The media only cares about this attack because the attacker was white, shitposted online thus can be used as a weapon against that dangerous free speech thing, can also be used to attack Trump, and finally can be used as a cover for the transcripts that came out that damn the DoJ, could lead to trouble for Obama, might point to obstruction of justice by Bill Clinton(tarmac grandkids talk my ass), and clearly show that the investigation into Hillary's misconduct was intentionally tanked during the election and that she should have been indicted.
 
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My bad then, but I still disagree with Cosmos besides the de-humanizing part. I don't find killing people doing nothing funny, but connecting this to right-wing extremism is tantamount to virtue-signalling. That would be like me demanding gay or black people apologize for or denounce Jussie Smollet for faking his attack when at best the only people who should do that is Jussie himself and the people who wanted to use his "story" as ammunition to attack their political opponents. That is simply sheer cowardice.
He self identifies as an eco-fascist. As far as the badly outdated left-right axis goes, most would say that this is right wing.
 
This isn't specifically aimed at you but all the people in the thread who keep making similar posts. 49 people were just murdered in cold blood in a very blatant act of hate and y'all are more worried about what SJWs might do. PC culture is annoying as fuck, but the last time I checked SJWs haven't murdered 4 dozen defenseless people while they were praying. Call me a libtard but I think right-wing extremism is the bigger issue here.
Honestly at this point what the fuck are we supposed to do about extremism, we tried this shit with ISIS, with so many fucking groups and it never fucking works. it just causes them to get emboldened. also I think its due to the fact many are dissociated from NZ as a whole considering majority of the traffic for Kiwi Farms is in the US. The 49 people are dead, nothing will bring them back, at this point I don't see there being a use in trying to morn those so far away. plus this is what, the first one of these incidents, we have no fucking clue if this is intrinsic to a group or just some psychos. either way combating these cultures are futile and will only result in them segregating themselves further, like a makeshift terrorist cell.
 
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No, the worst part about this shooting is that the shooters succeeded with their short-term political objectives.

They wanted the media to slander Pewdiepie fans, 8chan users and others as violent extremists that must be cracked down on. His whole plan is admittedly long game but its still a plan to drive non-neoliberal views underground so that they can fester and become violent. Everything was to divide people to create some kind of Helter Skelter in the distant future.

Of course, I really doubt this all. I actually think this dumb manifesto was created so that we'd talk about them and I think they're just attention whores. Even with that in mind though, the media basically told any political violent extremists that they'll fall for the trick. We will see a trend of these attacks in the near future.
I included the objectives existing and being acted on as part of "sociopathy" but maybe I'm just too used to seeing this breed of extremists as people who commit mass violence because of impulse or feels.
 
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/r/WatchPeopleDie has been banned due to the recent Christchurch shooting.

/r/Gore too.

Seems like Reddit is going all-out.
God Dammit
Watchpeopledie was legitimately educational and one of the few good subs remaining on reddit.
So many of the gore sites either spam with with every type of gore, (I have no problem with most of it, but I would like to know what I'm about to see, and some things are still what I don't want to see) terribly organised and/or sketchy.

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Does anyone know of a decent replacement?
 
God Dammit
Watchpeopledie was legitimately educational and one of the few good subs remaining on reddit.
So many of the gore sites either spam with with every type of gore, (I have no problem with most of it, but I would like to know what I'm about to see, and some things are still what I don't want to see) terribly organised and/or sketchy.

...
Does anyone know of a decent replacement?

documenting reality, Mike (the owner) has only really been pressured once when James Foley got beheaded, but he was in the their jurisdiciton, not sure if the same will happen when the NZ authorities ask him to take it down.
 
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There were forty Muslim on Muslim Mosque attacks in 2018.

There have been four so far in 2019.

Of those forty attacks only three received much attention. One killed twenty-seven and wounded fifty. One killed forty-eight and wounded eighty. The third which received virtually no attention killed twenty-two and injured twenty three.

The media only cares about this attack because the attacker was white, shitposted online thus can be used as a weapon against that dangerous free speech thing, can also be used to attack Trump, and finally can be used as a cover for the transcripts that came out that damn the DoJ, could lead to trouble for Obama, might point to obstruction of justice by Bill Clinton(tarmac grandkids talk my ass), and clearly show that the investigation into Hillary's misconduct was intentionally tanked during the election and that she should have been indicted.

They care because first of all, mass shootings like this aren't a thing in NZ - the last deadly mass shooting there was in the nineties. Those Muslim on Muslim mosque attacks you're talking about don't usually happen in Western countries, they happen in countries ravaged by war. It's not fucking normal in New Zealand for 49 people to be gunned down. It's not normal for a woman to be executed in the middle of the street.
 
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