Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%

  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%

  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%

  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%

  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%
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millais said:
The only part of the playlist that was not very memey was the British Grenadiers march. Not sure what that is supposed to be about.
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid said:
He should've been playing Imagine Dragons instead, the least he could've done was enact some vigilante justice on music while he was at it.
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I'm not sure why, but for a minute my brain said: "What if kiwi's wrote for buzzfeed?"

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raymond said:
So the next time someone complains about me calling this site a Nazi haven can I point to this thread as proof?



No, it'll just be another data point, because there's going to be many more of these kind of incidents in the future. It's not even the highest body count: He's tied with the gay club shooter, the vegas shooter has more, and this isn't anywhere near as large as the Paris attack or the German truck, and we don't really hear about those anymore.
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Breivik was more as well at 77...So he has a long way to go. Not that he'll ever actually get the chance to get more.
 
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Orderabi said:
I registered today as well, but just because you guys were the only ones that I can chat about this incident properly. I'm not carrying any political, trolling or derailing agenda. I am a casual forum lurker, mostly in TL etc.

Other than that, besides the terrorist being a complete jerk, I kinda agree on some highlights he made. I'm not against migrating, or people deciding where to live as long as they met the conditions of a citizenship in their desired countries. But when I was travelling Paris, I felt something was wrong as well, too many Arabs, less whites and whites were so old or irrelevant to each other compared to these communes, who usually stick together, aid each other and so all. But I did not blame any migrant for that, I only thought it was the outcome of imperial past of France, enabling mass migration due to their forced language education in colonies and of course, their lazy solution to fullfill low wage labor with these people.

I still highly believe "good fences make good neighbors" and natural way of mixing cultures, not forced political mesaures. Par example, my country, Turkey, you probably think is out of subject what Europe has been facing for too many years but it suffers the same.

Before Syrian War, we were 85 million populated country that were barely collecting taxes from our eastern part, since as you all know, some parts of the kurdish population (roughly 6 million) is separatists and not into paying taxes that much, now it's +4 million refugees who are registered and roughly 1 million not registered, as the numbers show, Syrian babies born in Turkey is much more than the Syrian babies are born in Syira now, which will hit us in the future badly, considering they will demand language in mother language and force their culture to us as the time goes by.

Turkey has been a nationalistic country, starting from the last era of Ottomans, influenced by the Frenchs that made Young Turks very patriotic and against Ottoman rule, producing Ataturk and then making Turkey a nation state, fueling Kurdish uprising which was always there and so on. We have been struggling with the idea of umbrella nationality, not only because the Turkish oppression on Kurds, but also because of the Kurds being totally from another language tree, another culture and political roots, which is a mixture of maoism and marxism. Now, we will have another soon to be 10 million minority that will reject paying taxes, that will claim mostly the lands Kurds are also claiming, and we'll have another big crisis what Ottomans were facing before being thorn apart. There are already Syrian gangs in some parts of Istanbul, who are constantly clashing with the Kurdish mafia (who is running the drug cartel mostly) and starting to get some heavy public disgust, as one incident Istanbul showed, some Arabs were harassing young girls who wore light dresses, recording them with phones, ended up they're getting fucked up by some Turkish neighborhood collectively.

This dirty deal Erdogan had with Merkel, to absorb all the refugees in Turkey will in the long term, will harm Turkey and therefore the Europe as well. Most people in Europe thinks that Arabs and Turks are culturally similar, therefore its more suitable that the Arabs will migrate to Turkey, but I'm almost 100% sure that I am more close to Greeks, Balkan people or slavic people in terms of culture and daily life than the Arabic. Their language is different, their customs are different, their way of dressing is different, their logic and understanding of law & state is different, and most importantly, the way they live Islam, despite the both cultures are sunni, is crucially different.

As a person who worked with Cypriot Greeks, Syrian Arabs and having a Belarussian girlfriend, I can say with the Greeks we were like friends, having the same taste and opinions about the life and so all, but the Arabs were not even attending to any meetings post-work because there is alcohol there and we were mixed with opposite gender, whom they usually not prefer to talk that much.

Do I care about these things that much? Well, if they're running happy country in their homelands and not causing any global threat or balance issues, I'm happy that they have this different ideas about daily life, there are some people who thinks cows are holy after all, or there are monks who are not having any sex all their lives. I don't mind, it's a damn free world, but if they're migrating in a society and start pushing their life style there, which contradicts the very essence of the public opinions of respective country, it will almost all the times gonna cause big trouble. Turks are patriotic, and they will never be okay with the idea of teaching any other language in the schools, or they will never be okay pay more taxes because we oppressed 100 years ago some people. This culture will never come to the terms of understanding it, because there's a huge hubris heritage and it's stupidly not possible to revert. I firmly believe, we should accept the Turks as they are as we're accepting Cubans as they are and Russians as they are and not run a global agenda for social engineering. That's the main reason I cut my support for globalism and liberalism. They push their design so much and the order of the system they're building, which replaces cheap labor force with foreigns, makes all the white europeans alienated from their society. This is very personal idea but during my whole life, I've obserbed that if the cheap labor is replaced with minorities, the mass population is starting to live in gated communities and leading to a life of loneliness, self centiric tinder swipes and life time, whereas, the actual people who are running the streets, spending time together, mixing with other faces normally (as I plan to marry my Belarussian one as an act of love!) are making more strong public stances about any case they will face, be that War, be that referendum, be that running local business in their zones. That's why I still believe the idea of nation state, or any refugee is going under some state funded education or rehabilitation is still critical. But then there will be basic human right concerns about these reforms and educations, but I think instead of putting them in cages or camps, some meetings arranged by state, where free food and music is served, where language and customs are being taught would be nice, and non attending refugees should be banned entry. I would really enjoy to go out with an arabic family, eat with them, enjoy an event with them where we exchange ideas and we show them how we live. Otherwise they will stick to each other in bulks and even refuse to communicate as they are doing now.
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I think you have to get mad at the cause and not the ''result''. Large amounts of immigration let's be honest is just a way to quickly and cheaply produce population growth in a country where it's not growing on its own domestically. Muslims have large families and lots of kids so they push up the population growth rather quickly. It's the same thing here in Canada as it is in France, the U.K and apparently New Zealand. Governments are not focusing on quality but just have a desire for ''quantity''. They don't care who they get just as long as they reproduce, buy stuff and work low wage jobs.

Getting angry at Muslims for their behavior and self segregation is useless.
 
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Orderabi said:
now it's +4 million refugees who are registered
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Consider yourself lucky. Your country may be worse off financially and developmentally than some, but at least your leaders aren't completely selling our your national character. The demographic problems you're talking about are nothing compared to western white countries. The leaders of western countries are explicitly antinationalist and antipopulist as is the media. The same can't be said of the people though as it's roughly an even split.

I'd say a major factor of this attack was this guy seeing nobody taking real issues seriously. That kind of silence feeds the conspiracy and radical minded's worst fears.
 
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kaiwaii said:
I think you have to get mad at the cause and not the ''result''. Large amounts of immigration let's be honest is just a way to quickly and cheaply produce population growth in a country where it's not growing on its own domestically. Muslims have large families and lots of kids so they push up the population growth rather quickly. It's the same thing here in Canada as it is in France, the U.K and apparently New Zealand. Governments are not focusing on quality but just have a desire for ''quantity''. They don't care who they get just as long as they reproduce, buy stuff and work low wage jobs.

Getting angry at Muslims for their behavior and self segregation is useless.
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Yes. But now Erdogan calling Turkish families to have at least 3 kids to outnumber kurds and arabs. This is his solution.
 
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GrungyLawnChlorinate said:
At one point someone appears to escape out of the window, yes? On the left side, early on. Video was overexposed in those bright areas, am not certain.
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I think the question was whether the guy attacked the shooter, or tried to slip past him.
 
rape said:
He's an accelerationist, read the manifesto.
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Yeah. I know he is.
I was implying if the dude was going to be stupid and start blankwarnow shit, he needed to go big or go home. In terms of setting off a chain of events in his 4d chess moves, I mean.
 
GrungyLawnChlorinate said:
At one point someone appears to escape out of the window, yes? On the left side, early on. Video was overexposed in those bright areas, am not certain.
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we are talking about the guy at 7 minutes
@HeyYou Now is exactly the time to be doing it, maybe not peak optics but there is no better moment than now.
 
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