Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

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Iranians are fine too. Quite pleasant usually. I believe them when they say they are Persians which are not Arabs. They get real offended if you call them Arab.

The only Iranians Ive ever dealt with have been expats who fled the Ayatollah, one being the guy who owned the corner store closest to my college who would tell me hilarious shit like "Beat your wife every night after you come home, if you don't know why, do not worry, SHE DOES!"
 
Shitstorm brewing over on Twitter, I suggest you guys check it out
Between the ORANGE MAN BAD BAN GUNS BAN 4CHAN cucks, retards bashing pewds, Kpop artists insulting him to promote their songs (?) and whatnot, it's quite funny.
 

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Iranians are fine too. Quite pleasant usually. I believe them when they say they are Persians which are not Arabs. They get real offended if you call them Arab.

Because they're not arabs and that's true. Being an arab was long considered to be something you wouldn't be proud of in this part of ME. There is a turkish saying "Anlıyorsam Arap olayım!" which means "let me become Arab if I understand what you say!" to put an emphasis that you really don't understand what person is talking.

And oh, Iranians are much more advanced society than the turks are, actually they're pretty clever people and very tolerant.
 
That is a problem, and I hope there's nothing but pushback against that in the future. There's a lot of people already against the idea of multiculturalism and diversity, and some /pol/tard won't change shit.
You mean pledging allegiance to the Pope in Rome above all earthly authority isn't a bad thing? And how Pope Leo XIII condemned the attempts of American Catholics to support American separation of church of state as the heresy of "Americanism" was acceptable?

Yes, there's Muzzies who are like the Catlickers who bought into the Pope's bullshit or modern Protestant fundies who think of themselves as Christians first and Americans second and want to conquer the world for Allah, but there's also Muzzies who aren't much different then the Jews who go to the synagogue every Saturday (and aren't trying to rule the world on Sunday like some Jews) or Catlickers or Prods.

I'm just going to say that outside of Ireland in the 60s-80s, there's not a whole lot of modern cases of Catholics going full Allah Snackbar Our Father on a bunch of "those other, bad christians" on a weekly basis. You cannot apples to apples the religions, because of the underlying cultures.

You beat the self-segration via indoctrination. Or at the very least you reduce it to no worse than what the wops got, so Muzzies are no worse than the Mafia (or other dumb shit like the Irish Mob) relatively, so all they do is cause some trouble here and there and oppress some people. The entire damn problem can be solved if Western countries aimed at assimilation and not some multiculturalist bullshit.

The problem is you can't. Denmark is starting to enact requirements on parents in immigrant communites to make them start assilimating, but you can't in the US because of personal rights, and I've got no intention of going into the various merits of that here.
 
Then call me a terrible person who really doesn't give a fuck what you think of me.

There's no excusing what this guy did, but acting as if though there's no sympathy to be had for the guy's grievances and saying you're just as bad as he is if you have any is part of the fucking problem.

The incompatibility of Islam with the west has been a proven issue for long enough that it's problems are more than crystal clear to everybody who cares to look at them. Countless rapes, acid attacks, murders, etc. But if you talk about any of this in your social group, you're a racist. Your politicians ignore you in favor of the feel-good mainstream opinion. If you try to talk about it semi-anonymously online you're either met at best with dismissal and pilpul, at worst outright censorship, in either case with outright declarations again that there's something wrong with you for pointing out the reality of the situation as it has been for well over a decade at this point.

Then fucking absolute exceptional individuals want to wonder why people like this guy are driven to extremism. When the only place you're allowed to honestly confront the issue is on fucking 8/pol/ it's no god damn wonder. The absolute deterioration in the ability of people to speak honestly about such problems in the public discourse is only fueling this and further censorship is going to go exactly as the hopped-up asshole this thread is about wants it to: physical confrontations and violence.

This guy, while I don't believe in white nationalism or really ethnostatism (I'm a civnat), has some - I'll repeat because a lot of people on this site can't fucking read - some legitimate grievances. This kumbaya we-all-need-to-come-together bullshit that's been spewed in vain, and all of the aforementioned reactions to people trying to air their grievances about this problem, are doing nothing but continuing to ignore actual aggrieved individuals and thus fomenting their concern into anger, and that anger into hatred, all in the name of trying to keep alive the dream that "we're all just people and we can all get along if we really, really try". It's not working and the results of such an attitude are dozens of dead muslims in the middle of prayer and a censorship-hungry elite that are furiously masturbating at the ammunition they just received.

TL;DR This cold-blooded piece of shit, whilst being a cold-blooded piece of shit who deserves what he's going to get, did have some points. You're part of the problem if you insist that he didn't, or that any sympathies towards his ill will somehow make you an evil person.




PC culture is what fucking lead to this. If you think right-wing extremism is the bigger issue here you're a fucking idiot who's putting the cart before the horse.

The bigger issue here is that every single person's lives who use the internet are about to be made worse exactly as this fuckstick intended, and here we have dipshits railing on about how the results of this societal problem finally coming to a head are somehow also it's cause.

The problems that we're having in the west right now that both led to this and are most certainly going to lead to more of the same have a solution if people could stop acting as if though there's nothing to see here other than a deranged gunman who's motives should only be looked at in the most shallow of ways possible unless you're just like him, and talk about the issues at hand.

Step one imo should be to stop the fucking censorship and stigma surrounding the issue, but I'm just some dude on the internet.
I remember seeing this from a thread a while back and thought it was kinda relevant to this. It's especially interesting if you've looked into pre Nazi Germany.

Edit: so basically history is repeating itself
 

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Okay, having slept on it, and having viewed the video a few more times without having to stop it and walk away between breaks, I can honestly say that my opinion hasn't really changed. I have also read the so-called "Manifesto" that this fool wrote, and can say that it's no different from many of the other "manifesto's" written by similar attention seeking murderers.
A post I read summed up the act quite nicely - an internet killing for the internet age - he streamed it live, he mentioned a popular gaming Youtuber at the beginning of the video, and he was obviously frequent on the internet in social forums and Twitter/Facebook.

What makes this any different from other attacks of this nature? I guess the fact that it was streamed live and so many people have jumped on it (just as the murderer wanted). I am not saying that this kind of thing has not been done before either, it has - so what has he achieved really apart from the murder of innocent people, and to land himself a good number of years inside bars.

Sadly, the families of those innocent people have a life sentence - this fucker will eventually be let out of prison, regardless of what he has done..
 
Yep. When the "Religion of Peace" has advocated and been responsible for the death of 10's, if not 100's, of millions of people, this shit will happen. Payback is a bitch.

Please show me the evidence that suggests that this particular mosque had a problem with Islamic extremism. Because so far there's been nothing to suggest that the victims were anything other than moderate Muslims. If you think moderate Muslims deserve to be blamed for what Islamic terrorists do, then you're just as irrational as people who think all white people should be held accountable for slavery.
 
I just managed to watch the WHOLE video as deaf person, no sounds for me (obviously) but one thing that struck me the most is how he basically was stone-cold calm throughout the whole thing, even picking off people by one by one who was moving. I don't even know what to say man; just whole thing is kinda fucked convoluted mess because when there was mass shooting, there was always only one angle of footage or people running then drop dead in front of security camera- those type of things.

But THIS is from first person point of the view throughout the whole thing and it hits you hard on what it actually takes to go through with it.
 
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Okay, having slept on it, and having viewed the video a few more times without having to stop it and walk away between breaks, I can honestly say that my opinion hasn't really changed. I have also read the so-called "Manifesto" that this fool wrote, and can say that it's no different from many of the other "manifesto's" written by similar attention seeking murderers.
A post I read summed up the act quite nicely - an internet killing for the internet age - he streamed it live, he mentioned a popular gaming Youtuber at the beginning of the video, and he was obviously frequent on the internet in social forums and Twitter/Facebook.

What makes this any different from other attacks of this nature? I guess the fact that it was streamed live and so many people have jumped on it (just as the murderer wanted). I am not saying that this kind of thing has not been done before either, it has - so what has he achieved really apart from the murder of innocent people, and to land himself a good number of years inside bars.

Sadly, the families of those innocent people have a life sentence - this fucker will eventually be let out of prison, regardless of what he has done..
His manifesto is different in 2 ways:
a) It's a means not an end.
b) He actually succeeded with the stated goals in his manifesto.
 
The left felt sympathy for counter-violence towards Muslims after witnessing people jumping from the World Trade Center, 100 stories up, after Muslims flee planes into the towers.
To be fair mainstream republicans were also dipshits who took us to war against almost everyone but the sponsors of 9/11 and gave up the 4th amendment and called it patriotic. It's fucking clown world.
 
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@Cosmos - Every mosque has a jihadi/extremist problem, there is always that one cunt trying to "convert" his brothers to the "true Islam", so they can wage holy war against the infidels. The reason why so many mosques are always under surveillance, and why a lot of terror attacks you get the news "Intelligence agencies knew about the terrorist". Are the mosques evil? No. But they do help spread the retarded version of Islam. You can find evidence by mere googling it.

@A Psycho Cat - He heavy breaths intensely a good portion of the shooting, but he doesn't talk or present any emotions besides one moment he says "Looks like I`m getting out of this one, boys".
 
If you think moderate Muslims deserve to be blamed for what Islamic terrorists do, then you're just as irrational as people who think all white people should be held accountable for slavery.

Those two situations aren't comparable, however. I don't know of a single white person living who is guilty of slavery based on race.
 
Now that I think about it, his manifesto reminds me a lot of the manifesto that dexter wrote (from the series), like 1:1 except dexter didn't go on a shooting spree.
 
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