Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[ZeCommissar]

So....What do you guys think will actually come of this? I highly doubt IRL Turner Diaries is going to happen because of this, or any race war. At worst gun rights are even more restricted like after what happened in Las Vegas and the divide gets ever deeper.....

However anything could happen. Remember WWI was started just because one dude was shot. (Yes there were other reasons, but Ferdinand's assassination is what snowballed everything)

The public is playing right into the shooters hands. Both sides are getting fucked in the ass for different reasons. The right is getting fucked because yet another tard on their side committed a shooting, and now anyone right of SJWs endorse this guy or some stupid shit. Apparently you can't be white and right without wanting to genocide minorities. Remember when edgy kids were looked at weird after Columbine? Now it's people on the right wing.

The left in it's predictability and naivety is LITERALLY DOING WHAT THE FUCKING SHOOTER SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO IN HIS PUBLIC MANIFESTO!!!

Is coexistence even possible anymore between politics, religion and races? We have come so far as a species in our understanding of our cultures and races only for us to reach a roadblock....I just hope people that don't pick a side can live their lives peacefully in the future. We cannot let these monsters get what they want. Our forefathers did not build a nation of (relative) equality just for it to be torn down.

Anybody who is that calm and casual while committing those acts was born wrong. It's textbook psychopath shit. Someone wired normal, even if they've somehow convinced themselves mass murder is the right thing to do, will have much more of a reaction to it than that guy.

I do not know or really believe a "normal" person could ever be driven to do such a thing, but if it's possible then I think once you reach that point you are already lost. If you are shooting up dozens of people you WILL be calm and casual since your frame of mind is so inhuman.

 

[Traummaschine]

When it comes to trying to scrub the video and pictures and similar from the web, it seems like this is the direction we see more take. Danish (and somewhat Norwegian) police tried the same after the Moroccan beheading video hit the web, and in Denmark a bunch of people have been heavily fined for sharing the video. Similarly, as far as I have understood, there has been a big effort in France to hide the fucked up shit the terrorists did to the people and the bodies inside the Bataclan theater. Ebba Akerlund became a bit of a symbol for this on /pol/ after there was little left of her when she was ran over by a muslim terrorist on the streets of Stockholm and nobody else wanted to talk about it - Which is probably why her name ended up on one of Tarrant's gun.

The /pol/ narrative tends to be that this is just another way to protect muslims, but all this speaks a bit against that. I rather think the belief is that these kind of things just breeds more hatred and anger, and also probably some sense of protecting the victims and their families from having (supposed) psychos jacking off to pictures of their deaths.

And to be honest it's hard to totally argue against that. There is a reason ISIS put up slick productions of gruesome executions - It is supposed to both get their supporters and their enemies going. But it is a big question if this kind of aggressive removal strategy really helps, and of course we also get a lot of self-righteous officials who now feel they can remove anything they don't like while they are at it. And worst of all, we have to rely on blue checkmarks to tell us the truth.

 

[Vanilla Essence]

Since Charlie Hebdo I've not commented on these sorts of massacres, but this one is more offensive, and it's not due to the event itself, I don't feel incited by the shooter, I don't sympathize with his view or action, I already had my own views based on observation, questions and logic long before this.

Nah. The thing about this is the over-the-top virtue-signaling and Nanny-State reaction of the NZ Prime Minister, as well as the servile co-opted media that avidly enabled suppression of facts and public interest information, effectively saying, "Trust us, we know better, we're morally superior and have decided for you." And a police force trying fruitlessly to threaten with prison time, to try and block transmission of information that's of global public interest? This is a disgrace.

Behind every major stuff-up there's always a bunch of virtue-signaling politicians jerking everyone's chain and capitalizing on events (which they themselves create) to usurp more power to themselves at the expense of a shrinking tolerance for facts, replacing those with a more convenient fiction, or just leaving it at the complete ignorance level instead.

NZ has been one of the silliest of all virtue-signaling-obsessed nanny-states from the banning of Cold-War USN nuclear carriers in 1985, until today. It's always a holier than thou one-upmanship cycle with each new NZ government, trying to continually out-bid everyone else's 'virtue'-signaling, and impress the planet with their gleaming rectitude and sanctimony sideshows (see the pompous Deputy NZ PM Winston Peters on SKY yesterday for instance).

And now they’ve banned a video of real events, in favor of the ignorance of a population that knows nothing about them, so that they can appear all morally 'proactive' and protective, and can tisk-tisk and tut-tut all the more at the things which they themselves have cumulatively bought about, due to their own sappy fake-virtue routine within the prior decades which set up the whole basis for this event to occur.

But they've had to up the virtue-dosage as it's having less and less desired happy-crappy effect, and is accruing more negative responses instead.

"Damn the torpedoes! Increase sanctimony to ramming-speed! We'll crash the internet into our virtual virtue bergs!!"

 

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So. Uh. We went from "the mussies in NZ are the liberal ones" to "the mosque he picked had literal ties to ISIS" in a few dozen pages.

Wild world.

 

[heathercho]

It's the problem many like myself have with the right currently, instead of getting angry and fighting back against this potential censorship many of them are allowing the left and elites frame the argument and worrying about optics. Thus those who do (not all people on the right just those who do these things) will stick their tail between their legs and run away instead of standing with the rest of us who face off against it. Thus weakening our position not only by literal numbers but in the face of normies (the largest group in society who we need to appeal and apply too)

Too many are afraid to stand up and do the right thing, and then they wonder why this authoritarian push is getting so much traction and why so many normies go along with it. Normies always fall for the concept of normalization. Basically you push a belief until they accept belief.Republicans and right wing people have slacked on this duty by not being vocal and the authoritarians (elites/left/Muslims/etc.) are shouting at everything, capitalizing on it and putting everyone under their thumbs.

What times we live in.

I don't think for a second Says Who is/was a genuine poster or genuinely held those views. I think they were agent provocateur in the various threads, trying to get screencapped by some media outlet to get heat on the website.
What they were saying was a little too "HELLO FELLOW TERRORISTS!".

 

[NewMorning]

In this video, it looks like he's being unnecessarily batoned and possibly unconscious? What's the 'unnecessary force' laws like over in NZ?

Footage of mosque shooting arrest: Suspect dragged along sidewalk

New footage has emerged of the moment Christchurch mosque attacks suspect Brenton Tarrant was arrested.

www.news.com.au

 

[BillyGoat2]

In this video, it looks like he's being unnecessarily batoned and possibly unconscious? What's the 'unnecessary force' laws like over in NZ?

Footage of mosque shooting arrest: Suspect dragged along sidewalk

New footage has emerged of the moment Christchurch mosque attacks suspect Brenton Tarrant was arrested.

www.news.com.au

well at least you made the effort to add a profile picture.

But i dont think anyone would have really cared if he was given the Rodney King treatment

 

[Animewasamistake]

I don't think for a second Says Who is/was a genuine poster or genuinely held those views. I think they were agent provocateur in the various threads, trying to get screencapped by some media outlet to get heat on the website.
What they were saying was a little too "HELLO FELLOW TERRORISTS!".

True for that poster, but that attitude is very common IRL.

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

As for the shooting itself - happens. And that's not being an edgy internet boi, them's the fact. Have you heard of Nigerians being killed on 14th of February in what, at a glance, can be described as a lowkey civil war/tribal warfare? Me neither, nobody gives a fuck, all I've found was a wikipedia footnote. 126 killed in a car bomb in Shar in Afghanistan of Muhammad[pbuh]? I think I've heard something about that one, but it was treated as a novelty item at best. Wikipedia has this handy dandy list of terrorist attacks. When you look at the list the only factor that makes this one different is that it was commited by a white man in a developed nation.

What irks me here is that free speech and news is being censored. The footage of a dude shooting up a mosque is the definition of news - I can look up hours of similar material with CNN, BBC and Bukkake News Network logos all over them with no issues, that's perfectly kosher, even if what's on the screen is FLIR footage of people being ripped apart by Apache gunship fire or blood smears left by children being dragged by a speeding truck. Some cunts on a macrame & foot fetish forum looking at said footage and providing insightful commentary such as "well I wouldn't like to get shot" or "that doesn't look pleasant" is a normal conversation & commentary on such events, it's as natural as taking a shit and the definition of free speech. The fact that some sore cunt tries to censor and silence that is absolutely abhorrent and disgusting. After every single terrorist attack [or any tragedy in general] in a first world country the same trite phrase of "we regret this tragic event, and we must admit that a discussion on XYZ is necessary" is used - motherfucker you need to be able to speak if you want to have a conversation. Congratulations, your sheer idiocy made me mad at the goddamn internet.

Kiwi cops - when you abduct me to your black site sheep farm please don't fly me in economy, I'm a tall and wide boi and that'd be violating my human rights.

 

[The Demon]

i would also like to thank null for keeping on top of shit. specifically, warning actual kiwis from the fact that new zealanders are getting tracked for having that video on their PCs. thank you null

 

[JeffA]

When you can get 10 years in jail for watching a video, I think we've gone a bit past that now.

Who is going to pay for all the new prisons ?
Or maybe they could exile those who have watched it to the South Island and put
everyone else on the North.

 

[muh_moobs]

I don't see the big deal.

ISIS still has the high score for massacring Muslims.

 

[Medicated]

Is it time for chanology on steroids?

Never thought I'd see that. I expect the people on Twitter will be like:

 

[JeffA]

I don't see the big deal.

ISIS still has the high score for massacring Muslims.

Yeah but by now for every person they killed 10 of them have been blown away.

 

[Particle Bored]

I haven't kept up with the last 30 pages, so this may be late, but NZ is banning all semi-auto rifles.

Christchurch mosque shootings: New Zealand to ban semi-automatic weapons

Politicians have promised New Zealand's gun laws will change.

www.nzherald.co.nz

 

[Medicated]

I haven't kept up with the last 30 pages, so this may be late, but NZ is banning all semi-auto rifles.

Christchurch mosque shootings: New Zealand to ban semi-automatic weapons

Politicians have promised New Zealand's gun laws will change.

www.nzherald.co.nz

What if I want to get them illegally? Checkmate NZ. Didn't think I'd break the law to massacre people did ya?

 

[NewMorning]

Is coexistence even possible anymore between politics, religion and races? We have come so far as a species in our understanding of our cultures and races only for us to reach a roadblock....I just hope people that don't pick a side can live their lives peacefully in the future. We cannot let these monsters get what they want. Our forefathers did not build a nation of (relative) equality just for it to be torn down.

I do not know or really believe a "normal" person could ever be driven to do such a thing, but if it's possible then I think once you reach that point you are already lost. If you are shooting up dozens of people you WILL be calm and casual since your frame of mind is so inhuman.

A house divided against itself cannot stand. Races are irrelevant, but the different cultures and religions being forced to coexist was never going to work in the real long run.

Dehumanizing people is EXACTLY what leads to people becoming capable of these sorts of actions. ALL sides insist upon doing this, and always freak out at the OTHER side doing it, while they do it themselves just to other people. If you refuse to view people you disagree with (no matter how vehemently you disagree) as human,as one of your kind, you WILL cease to care what happens to them, and you WILL, by degrees, become capable of committing atrocities against them. The shooter is a human who genuinely believed himself to be doing the right thing, his victims were human too...but it was easy for him to kill them because he didn't see them as human.
STOP fucking dehumanizing people. ALL people.

 

[muh_moobs]

Yeah but by now for every person they killed 10 of them have been blown away.

It's called sarcasm, bro.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

Completely messed up that there's such a harsh draconian blanket with them trying to ban and remove the video. There are many contexts of people who would wish to view it or read his manifesto and it isn't just terrorists. Humans are naturally curious and that isn't a bad thing. It leads to learning and innovation and understanding. Obviously there should be an etiquette about it because just sending violence and gore to people who'd prefer not to look at it makes you a cunt, but copies of this material should exist. There is academic merit in studying it.

Basically what I'm saying is suck my balls, cops.

 

[Carpenter Trout]

This maybe already been posted, but there was a fuckload of shit going on that same day:

Israel strikes 100 targets in Gaza in response to rockets fired at Tel Aviv

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www.haaretz.com

The Israeli army attacked some 100 targets in Gaza Thursday overnight in response to two rockets being fired at Tel Aviv from the Strip the evening before, a first since the 2014 war. According to a preliminary army assessment, the rockets were fired at Tel Aviv by mistake during maintenance work.

The army said the Iron Dome missile defense system was activated as a result of the launches. It is assumed that the rockets landed in open areas due to the fact that no damage or injuries were reported. The last time rocket alerts were activated in Tel Aviv was two years ago, in what turned out to be a false alarm. The flare-up comes three weeks before Israel holds its general election on April 9.


In an unusual move, the organizing committee for the March of Return in Gaza announced Friday morning that it called off the weekly protest along the Israel-Gaza border in light of the flare-up. The committee said in a statement that the protest, which has been held every Friday since last March, was canceled in an effort to prevent further escalation and Palestinian casualties.



Following the tumultuous night, Egyptian mediators said a cease-fire took effect at 8 A.M. on Friday local time, sources in Gaza told Haaretz. The Associated Press reported that a Hamas official confirmed the cease-fire. The official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the Islamic militant group is yet to announce, said Egypt-led meditation efforts "have apparently paid off."

The flare-up follows weeks of tensions, with the most recent exchange taking place Saturday night when a projectile was launched at Israel. In response, the Israeli army carried out several airstrikes in the Strip, targeting several Hamas posts.

As of Friday morning, the Israeli army believed with increasingly certainty that the rockets fired at Tel Aviv were launched accidentally. According to a preliminary assessment, militants mistakenly fired two M-75 Fajr missiles while carrying out maintenance work at 9:07 P.M. while the Palestinians factions of Gaza met with Egyptian mediators.

While the army already suspected as much while the attack was still ongoing, it holds Hamas accountable for any type of violence coming from the Strip, and acted accordingly.

The army's sources include members of the intelligence community in Egypt who met with the Palestinian factions at the time, as well as statements released by the militant groups to the media claiming that they were not responsible. The heads of the Palestinian factions were reportedly surprised to hear of the launch, and the Israeli army had no intelligence that Hamas or Islamic Jihad had any intention of firing toward Israel, let alone the Tel Aviv area.

The sky glows orange during an Israeli airstrike in Gaza City, March 15, 2019.AFP

Palestinians inspect the damage of destroyed building belongs to Hamas ministry of prisoners hit by Israeli airstrikes in Gaza City, early Friday, March 15, 2019.AP

Most initial analyses placed the blame on Hamas, pointing fingers at the organization's violent suppression of protests in Gaza against it earlier in the day. Later, others held Islamic Jihad responsible, explaining that the group was trying to put a strain on the Egyptian mediation efforts and show that they, too, are a central player in the Gaza Strip.


Rockets over Tel Aviv

Around 9 P.M. on Thursday, rocket sirens blared throughout Tel Aviv and Israelis reported hearing blasts in the area. Military spokesman Ronen Manelis told Channel 13 News that "we did not have advance knowledge of this fire today, and in fact it surprised us."

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who also acts as defense minister, held an emergency security consultation in army headquarters in Tel Aviv. According to a political source, the meeting ended Thursday overnight with some "decisions made."

An Egyptian security delegation departed Gaza at Israel's request following the rocket fire and Gaza media outlets reported that Hamas evacuated military posts. A Palestinian source in Gaza told Haaretz that the rockets were fired from the northern part of the enclave, but that it was unclear which group initiated the fire. Hamas said it is looking into the shooting, vowing to "take measures against those responsible."

Representatives of the United Nations and Egypt were "in contact with all concerned parties, including Israel, to prevent the situation from spinning out of control," sources said.

The Israeli military said it attacked nearly 100 Hamas "terror targets" in Gaza Thursday overnight in response to the rockets fired at Tel Aviv. These included Hamas' headquarters in Gaza City, an underground rocket facility and several military posts.

The Gaza Health Ministry said that four people suffered light injuries as a result of the strikes. Two were wounded in Gaza City, and a man and a woman were wounded in their Rafah home. No other casualties were reported.

Meanwhile, rocket alarms sounded in Israeli communities near the Gaza border, but the Israeli army said the launch that triggered it failed and that the rocket landed within Gaza.

Shortly thereafter, sirens sounded in the southern Israeli town of Sderot and throughout the regional council of Sha'ar Hanegev. The IDF said four projectiles were launched from Gaza, three of which were intercepted by the Iron Dome.

'Terrorists must pay personal price'

skip - Jason Greenblatt tweet
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Disgusting cartoon. Israel is attacked..defends itself..Israel blamed.. again. Hamas/other terrorist groups: it doesn’t work anymore. The game is up. Keep trying to play & lose more & more for the Palestinians of Gaza. Understand reality, then we can talk about improving lives.
2:04 AM - Mar 15, 2019

Jason Greenblatt, U.S. President Donald Trump's envoy to the Middle East, condemned Hamas and other Gaza-based terror organizations for the escalation in a series of tweets.

"Hamas, PIJ and PFLP are all running for the hills (tunnels) denying responsibility for the rockets tonight," he tweeted. He also noted that earlier the same day, Hamas violently suppressed demonstrations against the group within the Gaza Strip "with live bullets, beatings and detentions. Hamas causes much suffering in Gaza!"

Education Minister Naftali Bennett of Hayamin Hehadash said Hamas should bear responsiblity for the rocket fire. "No matter who stands behind tonight's rockets, Hamas should be held accountable," he stated. He also called on Netanyahu to form a plan to assassinate Hamas chiefs. "I call on Netanyahu to order that the IDF present the cabinet a plan to defeat Hamas."

Former army chief and leader of Kahol Lavan party Benny Gantzcalled the fire "severe" and argued Israel must respond with "significant and harsh" means in order to "renew its deterrence." He said: "This adds to ... many incidents we've experienced in recent months. We must act decisively against this breach of Israel's sovereignty and security."

Kahol Lavan co-leader Yair Lapid tweeted the rocket attack was “An unacceptable act of aggression." He said "No government would accept attacks like this and Israel is no different. We will not tolerate any breach of our sovereignty and have the absolute right to respond with force and protect the people of Israel."

Former defense minister and Yisrael Beiteinu leader Avigdor Lieberman referred to Israel's cash transfers to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, saying "Just this week the government approved the transfer of additional $20 million to Hamas. Even another 'protection' payment doesn't bring quiet. On the contrary, it leads to further provocations ... Terrorist leaders must pay a personal price."

Meretz leader Tamar Zandberg responded Friday morning to reports that the Hamas missile launches on Thursday night were accidental. “I couldn’t not think this morning about what would happen if we descended into another ‘accidental’ war. The last thing Israel needs is another war," she said. She also made reference to "those who discover their courage on the battlefield, but lose it in politics, and prefer to come out with all these unecessary declarations about the need to respond severely to strikes,” referring to Gantz.

The Israel Police said it was not going to take special precautionary measures until it receives instructions to do so by the government. Local governments across Israel announced schools would operate regularly on Friday.

The Tel Aviv and Rishon Lezion municipalities both announced that they would open the cities' public shelters. Nonetheless, public events in Tel Aviv are proceeding as planned, including a basketball game of Maccabi Tel Aviv attended by more than 10,000 people.

And also this:

Spoiler: something I should've read more before posting it

some troll from 2011

Mossad spy ring 'unearthed because of Christchurch earthquake'

The Israeli secret service Mossad has been accused of conducting an intelligence-gathering operation in New Zealand which was unearthed because of February's Christchurch earthquake.

www.telegraph.co.uk

The operation was interrupted when a van used by a spy cell was crushed by masonry falling from a damaged building, killing one man, it is claimed.
Benyamin Mizrahi, 23, the Israeli man who died in the damaged van, was found to have five passports on his person, the Southland Times newspaper reported.
Three surviving Israelis who were in the van with Mr Mizrahi fled New Zealand within 12 hours, making their way back to Israel.
They reportedly paused only to take photographs of the crushed van and return the dead man’s Israeli passport to officials from their embassy.
The Southland Times also said the police national computer was being audited because of concerns it had been hacked into.
There were fears that other Israeli operatives, in the city after the February 22 quake which killed 181 people, could have embedded malicious software to access intelligence information.
John Key, the New Zealand prime minister, on Thursday confirmed that the government’s Security Intelligence Service had carried out an investigation but he dismissed the concerns.
Speaking during a visit to the United States, Mr Key said the unusual circumstances of the incident were fully investigated and no evidence was found that the people involved were anything other than backpackers.
He said his advice was that the man had only two passports, one of European origin which was found on his body, and the other which his friends had handed in to Israeli officials.
Mr Key said the government took the security of New Zealand and New Zealanders “very seriously”.
“The unusual circumstances which triggered the investigation was the rapid departure from the country of the three surviving members of the group of Israelis in question,” he said.
“Security agencies conducted the investigation and found no evidence that the people were anything other than backpackers,” Mr Key said.
In all, three Israelis died in the magnitude 6.3 earthquake.
Security experts suggested agents for Mossad may have been on an identity theft “trawling” mission for information, so that the passports of unwitting citizens could be cloned.
The false passports would then be used as cover during espionage activities in other parts of the world by Israeli secret agents.
Fred Tulett, editor of the Southland Times, said an “extraordinary” reaction by the Israeli government in the hours after the earthquake had heightened the suspicions of New Zealand’s Security Intelligence Service.
They included the fact that Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister, made four calls to John Key, his New Zealand counterpart, on the day of the earthquake.
Shemi Tzur, Israel’s ambassador to Australia and New Zealand, travelled from his base in Australia to Christchurch, where he visited the temporary morgue set up to cope with earthquake victims.
Meanwhile, Israel’s defence chief also flew to the earthquake-ravaged city.
In a further move, a search and rescue team arrived in Christchurch from Israel, but the squad’s offer of help was rejected by New Zealand authorities because it did not have the necessary United Nations accreditation.
Despite that rejection, members of the Israeli team were confronted by armed New Zealand officers after being discovered in the badly damaged sealed off “red zone” of the city centre, the Southland Times said.
The Israeli government later sent a forensic team to help authorities identify the dead.
The paper said New Zealand officials became alarmed when intelligence information was collated and it was realised that the Israeli forensic team had been given access to the police national database to help with identification work.
The paper quoted an unnamed intelligence officer as saying it would take only moments for a USB drive to be inserted into a police computer terminal and loaded with a program allowing remote backdoor access to the database.
A police spokesman later said: “We are confident that our data and network were not compromised during the Christchurch Earthquake response or subsequently.”
Mr Tzur, the Israeli ambassador, said it was “science fiction” to believe that any Mossad agents had been involved.