Facebook megathread

https://www.theverge.com/2019/1/30/18203551/apple-facebook-blocked-internal-ios-apps

Apple has shut down Facebook’s ability to distribute internal iOS apps, from early releases of the Facebook app to basic tools like a lunch menu. A person familiar with the situation tells The Verge that early versions of Facebook, Instagram, Messenger, and other pre-release “dogfood” (beta) apps have stopped working, as have other employee apps, like one for transportation. Facebook is treating this as a critical problem internally, we’re told, as the affected apps simply don’t launch on employees’ phones anymore.

The shutdown comes in response to news that Facebook has been using Apple’s program for internal app distribution to track teenage customers with a “research” app.

That app, revealed yesterday by TechCrunch, was distributed outside of the App Store using Apple’s enterprise program, which allows developers to use special certificates to install more powerful apps onto iPhones. Those apps are only supposed to be used by a company’s employees, however, and Facebook had been distributing its tracking app to customers. Facebook later said it would shut down the app.

This poses a huge issue for Facebook. While Apple provides other tools a company can use to install apps internally, Apple’s enterprise program is the main solution for widely distributing internal apps and services. In an email, a Facebook spokesperson said “I can confirm that this affects our internal apps.”

In a statement given to Recode, Apple said that Facebook was in “clear breach of their agreement with Apple.” Any developer that breaches that agreement, Apple said, has their distribution certificates revoked, “which is what we did in this case to protect our users and their data.” Apple declined to comment on shutting down all of Facebook’s internal apps in an email to The Verge.

Revoking a certificate not only stops apps from being distributed on iOS, but it also stops apps from working. And because internal apps by the same organization or developer may be connected to a single certificate, it can lead to immense headaches like the one Facebook now finds itself in where a multitude of internal apps have been shut down.

Apple and Facebook have already been bickering over privacy, but this is the first instance of Apple taking an action that directly shuts down some of Facebook’s activities. Last March, Apple CEO Tim Cook criticized Facebook’s handling of the Cambridge Analytica data sharing scandal, saying, “I wouldn’t be in this situation” if he were running the company. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg later said the comments were “extremely glib” and spoke of Apple as a company that “work hard to charge you more.”

 

[Cosmug]

Are you saying that gender is not something you're born with? Are you saying that sex reassignment surgery isn't a cure for people suffering from the ravages of gender dysphoria? That's a lot of hate to put out on display for the world to see, TERF.



It's almost like if you add in arbitrary criteria you can construct a framework where sometimes discrimination is okay and other times discrimination isn't.

I'm glad you think it's legal to discriminate against people on the basis of their ideology and encourage you to experiment with hanging a "no Muslims allowed" sign outside to test it.

I unironically support all forms of bigotry and prejudice having their own corner of the web, so that we can find it and laugh at them. Putting it all on Facebook and Reddit just makes it easier to find with a simple search. That’s the worst part of this whole social media monopoly thing that now I have to go looking for people who hate me for my race and have some fantastically stupid conspiracies to read and enjoy over cocoa.

 

[Pargon]

It's what I've always said, the Wild West was considered "tamed" when the grannies from the more civilized parts of the East deemed it safe to move in. When your grandma deems any Social Media website to be safe for her to use, that's when it's time for you to get the hell out of there, cause that just means it's no longer cool and exciting anymore

It doesn't even need to be cool and exciting. There's an entire generation of people (on top of people who just ought to know better but don't) that are growing up never learning that the best aspect of the internet is its capacity for anonymity. Refusing social media shit cripples one of the main ways companies and governments try to bend a global communication tool to their respective will and they can't abide that so hey, now you can log into the Secretary of State using your Facebook account when it comes time to renew your car registration. It's so easy that you won't even think about how your metadata is being sold to every national advertising agency and now your state and federal government has a new window to look through.

There's no reality in which social media is anything but poison. Who in their right mind would want their name stamped on anything they don't need to? It's just one more thing to be leveraged against you in some way.

 

[Ashenthorn]

They weren't breaking rules so faceberg changed the rules to fuck them, why aren't they now doing the same to anti-vaxxers, alt-medicine or pro-drug groups? Faceberg is helping them spread their lies that destroy lives and kill people probably far more than white separatists ever have.

If they're willing to change rules to "deplatform" a group isn't that a tacit endorsement of all the groups they don't "deplatform"?

Just received this:

 

[X Prime]

apparently there is a standard of "black race" which in no way shape or form can be used to discriminate against individuals.

One big difference between the concept of "white race" and all other racial categories is that the other ones do not have well-paid academics arguing that they exist solely as a nebulous claim to superiority though.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

One big difference between the concept of "white race" and all other racial categories is that the other ones do not have well-paid academics arguing that they exist solely as a nebulous claim to superiority though.

Hmmm....

The existence of "black studies professors" and "black studies majors" but complete lack of "white studies professors" and "white studies majors" suggests otherwise. Of course, in addition to the well paid academics touting black superiority, we have the endless numbers of morons on the internet.

 

[X Prime]

Hmmm....

The existence of "black studies professors" and "black studies majors" but complete lack of "white studies professors" and "white studies majors" suggests otherwise. Of course, in addition to the well paid academics touting black superiority, we have the endless numbers of morons on the internet.

Hey now, there's a difference between saying something is superior and that's good, versus saying something says they are superior and that's bad.

 

[IV 445]

I didn’t even know what white separatism was before this.

Also why is this categorized as Science?

 

[X Prime]

It is a branch of (meta)physics! It even has physics in the name!

 

[Superman93]

It's almost like if you add in arbitrary criteria you can construct a framework where sometimes discrimination is okay and other times discrimination isn't.

Because it is.
You can't run a society based on freedom were immutable characteristics prevent people from living.......freely.

I'm glad you think it's legal to discriminate against people on the basis of their ideology and encourage you to experiment with hanging a "no Muslims allowed" sign outside to test it.

Never said it was ok you exceptional individual because it devolves into people into this endless line of "if this isn't ok then this isn't ok either!"

 

[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

Experts say that white nationalism and white separatism movements are different from other separatist movements such as the Basque separatist movement in France and Spain and Black separatist movements worldwide because of the long history of white supremacism that has been used to subjugate and dehumanize people of color in the United States and around the world.

Hmm... If white people were able to subjugate all other races, doesn't that prove that prove that whites are supreme to other races?

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[X Prime]

You can't run a society based on freedom were immutable characteristics prevent people from living.......freely.

Please give a listing of characteristics that are guaranteed to be immutable in perpetuity.

 

[User names must be unique]

Just received this:

So they dump it to the bottom of search results and ban them from buying ads the same way they used to treat white separatist groups, but by their own actions they've stated that isn't good enough.

There is currently a declared emergency in New York due to a measles outbreak and Faceberg holds some of the blame for allowing these ideas to spread! They've shown they're willing to change rules to yeet groups why not antivax groups?!

This is the pandoras box you opened faceberg, have fun fighting this battle for the rest of your lifetime.

 

[Superman93]

Please give a listing of characteristics that are guaranteed to be immutable in perpetuity.

This has been covered before. Race, gender, and sexuality are protected classes but ideologies aren’t. This is because you can’t change your sex/race but ideology is a choice. A bar would get in trouble for throwing out a black guy for being black, but they can throw out someone wearing a MAGA hat. You may disagree with it, but the law says that ideologies (except for religion in many cases) are not a protected class.

 

[ProgKing of the North]

Hmmm....

The existence of "black studies professors" and "black studies majors" but complete lack of "white studies professors" and "white studies majors" suggests otherwise. Of course, in addition to the well paid academics touting black superiority, we have the endless numbers of morons on the internet.

The original reason for this was that regular “history” or “literature” or whatever was pretty much “white history” and “White literature”. So it made some sense at one point, probably varies by the university how much this still applies

 

[Крыса]

I love how they're saying that Basque separatism is fine, ETA killed over 800 people between the 60s and 00s, over 300 of those were civilians, but that's ok ? this makes no sense.

 

[X Prime]

A quote

None of those are immutable by definition (EDIT: in liberal dogma, to be clear).

Race is a social construct, genderfluidity exists, and sexual tastes can evolve with time. Try again.

 

[Grog]

This is probably going after IQ maps, crime charts and so on. All the stuff that proves that not everyone is equal, which is contrary to Fecesbook's mantra.

 

[JULAY]

content relating to Black separatist movements and the Basque separatist movement, for example, will still be allowed. .

OK, not only is this a blatant double standard, but the Basque separatist movement has been linked to actual fucking terrorism for nearly its entire history. ETA, the main Basque separatist group, killed over 800 people.

List of ETA attacks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So it's OK to be a separatist in a culture and region that has been associated with over 800 murders, but it's not OK to say something like "I'm proud to be White"?

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[X Prime]

That depends on what the facts are used for.

There are no bad facts, only bad uses for facts.

 

[Superman93]

None of those are immutable by definition.

Race is a social construct, genderfluidity exists, and sexual tastes can evolve with time. Try again.

Ok well let me know when Asians social reconstruct into the Geth