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Or ChrisChan?

Chris has his account protected and is constantly tweeting at people who can't see it, despite being told they can't see it.

How soon can we realistically expect the lawsuits to be filed?

Any time from tomorrow until the statute of limitations expires.

My guess would be they're already drafted and ready to file, but they may be waiting until after Kamehacon (or possibly they intend to serve a bunch of people right at the con or at the Sabat/Rial illegal income poaching alternate event).
 
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One potential positive, from my perspective, of waiting for more rocks to be thrown and vitriol spewed is that there might eventually be enough to push Vic over the edge into untying Ty's hands and letting him proverbially mag dump into every target that presents itself. If papers go out today/recently, they're likely to be more surgical and full of hugs.

It's been a couple of months since the controversy started, and more than a month since BHBH came on the scene. The damage, as far as I can tell, was pretty immediate because everyone was either in on the ouster or were trying to not get embroiled in the controversy-- any of the cons that were going to cancel on him did so in the first few days from Marchi and Rial's contributions, and VIZ would have cut him by now if they were going to (instead of bringing him back for what I presume to be "Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan"). It's also unlikely that we'll get any other notable accusations because the accusation pool is already severely artificially inflated with "hundreds" of inextant allegations, and plenty of discredited ones, and even then, I could only imagine that they would be going after those who had the podium to make actually damaging false statements-- that means Funimation, Rial, Marchi and ANN-- as well as those who participated in TI. Presumably, the goals of these lawsuits are to A) exonerate Vic in the public eye, and B) recoup the financial damages from this barely competent conspiracy.

For that reason, I'm unsure if Soye, or even Marzgurl or hanleia would actually get lawsuits. Soye, to my knowledge, doesn't have significant reach (comparable to, say, ANN) and no particular reputation beyond being Rial's fiancé. Marzgurl may have started the hashtag, but aside from clearly trying to lead a crusade so she can get absolution for not outing an actually known sexual predator being unaware that her friend was a sexual predator, she was never in a position to directly libel Vic in the same way Rial or Marchi could and did (literally, her crusade started because she thought the guy looked "creepy" and she had some unpleasant interactions with him that she never elaborated upon). Even if she was in on a conspiracy... what does suing someone who had to crowdfund an oil change accomplish if Vic can be exonerated with at least Funimation's head?

And hanleia may have been the one to launch the callout tweet that set up this powderkeg, everything that I said for Marzgurl holds for her as well, except that she can probably theoretically pay for an oil change if she doesn't sink all her regular income on weeb tripe. But since she's currently in Japan, if they do go after her, I guess BHBH becomes

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Frankly, I want to see everyone who even thought of posting a libelous tweet litigated so hard their great-grandchildren will remember them as the "great"-grandparent that got sued into the ground so hard for being irresponsible with the lives of others that they now have their progeny and their progeny;s progeny sipping lien, but the blowback of this ousting along with the fact that the implicated major parties are on some kind of notice for lawsuits all but ensures a lack of development that would accordingly potentially cause Vic to release the Beard's power limiters.

Less verbosely,

The war chest is only $120,000. It's not enough to go after every possible target and especially not enough to go after multiple targets from whom nothing can be recouped. At some point, decisions will need to be made about where to focus the legal time and money for maximum value.

And given that, I don't think there's much purpose in just waiting. Beard said that they weren't waiting, but that these lawsuits take time to write out.


I take it Raised by Wolves is also a lawyer, or at least someone that has had to write things ever.
 
Dude, maybe they're counting on that. Maybe they think that they can hold them off if they just all keep doing and saying dumb stuff.
I don't think they are that smart, and a point does come where adding shit just has diminishing returns
 
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I know it's been mentioned, not sure it's been posted but here's a video with the girls "glomping" Vic to the ground. Skip to 2:27.
 
Shane, if you're reading this (I don't have a Twitter account under this identity so I can't contact you there), I will wager you that, if Monica or Jamie have a case against them that ends up in court and no judgment is awarded to Vic, I will purchase you a brand new computer chair of at least Costco quality, along with a new chair floor mat. If either of them end up in court and a judgment is awarded to Vic, you must purchase me the same. We agree not to dox any names or addresses which may have to be revealed in this process.

If you agree, you may tweet about it, and it'll find its way here.

If you agree and either of us reneges on the deal once the legal dust has settled, that person is the Internet's greatest bitch for at least 24 hours.
 

Truly two of the finest legal minds on all of Twitter! You would be fools to ignore their advice and instead get a lawyer. Why the Judge will surely order Vic hanged on the spot!

I wonder if when this is all over Rial and Soye can sue these two for their incredibly bad legal reasoning. I especially love the “lawsuits happen fast! They just file anything they have right away!” Who are they getting legal advise from? Melinda Leigh Scott? “Yeah, spelling and punctuation don’t matter either!”

How soon can we realistically expect the lawsuits to be filed?

Hard to tell. The problem is these idiots just aren’t stopping or dialing down the ongoing parade of defamation and bad acts. Every day is a new batch to add to the complaint. I think Ty said they had something like 400 defamatory tweets from just one of these idiots. And that was a week or two ago. They still haven’t taken their foot off the gas, even after getting the preservation letters. It’s quite remarkable. I don’t think BHBH has ever seen anything like it. It’s like watching a mouse knowingly build its own trap. I think Ty and company are sitting back, letting these fools lull themselves into a false sense of security, before dropping shit on them. He’s in no rush. And every day they give him more free effortless discovery. Every day they get cockier, more confident that no lawsuit is coming. And every day they do more outrageous shit, that will eventually piss off even Vic’s Christian nature and prompt him to let Ty fully loose. And once again none of them do the math regarding that GFM IOLTA. That’s a loaded cannon, and it’s going to fire at somebody.

Dude, maybe they're counting on that. Maybe they think that they can hold them off if they just all keep doing and saying dumb stuff.

That would be an incredibly stupid plan. These idiots keep saying “if even one of these “victim allegations is true Vic loses”. When the opposite is true, if even one of their hundreds of instances of public defamation is malicious and untrue, they lose everything.
 
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