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Not to defend Rial, but she is doing this to save her own ass. She's signing a free personal item with the Kamehacon ticket, anyone else will have to pay the standard fee. She's not competing directly against Kamehacon, because she's working with Kamehacon to provide what she possibly agreed to in contract (sign shit for Kamehacon attendees).

As was mentioned earlier, I'm sure she will have her own merch table set up as well to take in maximum profit.

Tl;Dr: she's trying to be slick with the contract.
 
Not to defend Rial, but she is doing this to save her own ass. She's signing a free personal item with the Kamehacon ticket, anyone else will have to pay the standard fee. She's not competing directly against Kamehacon, because she's working with Kamehacon to provide what she possibly agreed to in contract (sign shit for Kamehacon attendees).

As was mentioned earlier, I'm sure she will have her own merch table set up as well to take in maximum profit.

Tl;Dr: she's trying to be slick with the contract.
I'm thinking she'll be a few panels short of a contract. Also, location, location, location. Then again, maybe no one wants her signature.
 
They likely bullied Kamehacon with the idea that if they try to hold them to the terms, they would have others blacklist them, or something along that vein.

Why bother having contracts, if you are gonna throw them away the moment someone violates them?

Makes no sense though, they've already been shown to be easily replaced. "I'm going to tell other people not to come to your convention where they can make lots of money! Take that!".

The cons don't need these 2 bit voice actors, the voice actors need the con circuit to make money. All Kameha con needs to do is come clean about their bullying and shady practices and I bet some cons wont want to touch those VAs with a 10 foot pole because of how hard they are to work with or how scummy they are. They already had shit last year with Schemmel being a diva and so far he's not been invited back for this years con.
 
https://twitter.com/KamehaCon/status/1113619201988661249

This is the worst fucking news i have heard. Makes me feel just stupid in having supported such pussies who couldn't even spine up into filing a SECOND LAWSUIT along with VIC. They had all the best situations they needed for winning it.
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My guess: KamehaCon was probably like "fine, whatever, just go away."
I've heard they're doing a gap year, after this? Whispers of the owner wanting to call it quits after two years. Makes sense - year one, he had to put up with Schemmel being a massive diva, then this for year two? And will likely be getting subpoenaed afterwards?

I bet he's just really over everything, right now.
 
Neither does letting them out of their contracts. Let's try to imagine a way for that to make sense...

It's not that complicated. Kamehacon doesn't have the clout to enforce their contracts.

They are a specialty con in the second year of their existence. If they sued these Dragon Ball voice actors, that would be a PR disaster for Kamehacon 2020 and beyond. Who from Funimation would appear at their event if they were in litigation with Monica Rial?
 
My guess: KamehaCon was probably like "fine, whatever, just go away."
I've heard they're doing a gap year, after this? Whispers of the owner wanting to call it quits after two years. Makes sense - year one, he had to put up with Schemmel being a massive diva, then this for year two? And will likely be getting subpoenaed afterwards?

I bet he's just really over everything, right now.
Yeah and if i were him, i'd grow a spine, take all the leverage i had in my current situation which is Monica not only having to pay for two lawsuits worth of money but defend against her action T.I with a contract etc. Win that fucking lawsuit or get a settlement, take that money and tell a FUCK YOU to hosting cons.
 
It's not that complicated. Kamehacon doesn't have the clout to enforce their contracts.

They are a specialty con in the second year of existence. If they sued these Dragon Ball voice actors, that would be a PR disaster for Kamehacon 2020 and beyond. Who from Funimation would appear at their event if they were in litigation with Monica Rial?

Perhaps I'm being overly :optimistic:, but Funimation may not be the same company by this time next year.
 
The tweet promoting her side event makes the con runners look like the biggest bunch of doormats ever. These guys are absolutely terrible negotiators and it's not surprising they aren't planning to do any more of them. I can understand not wanting to deal with a lawsuit to reign in these uppity voice actors, but the least you could is not fellate them as they leave you high and dry.
 
They likely bullied Kamehacon with the idea that if they try to hold them to the terms, they would have others blacklist them, or something along that vein.

Why bother having contracts, if you are gonna throw them away the moment someone violates them?
This. It just doesn't make sense.

They probably just don't want to be bothered with all the drama.
 
https://twitter.com/KamehaCon/status/1113619201988661249

This is the worst fucking news i have heard. Makes me feel just stupid in having supported such pussies who couldn't even spine up into filing a SECOND LAWSUIT along with VIC. They had all the best situations they needed for winning it.View attachment 714733
They even announced it. Holy shit, could they have cucked any harder? Just announce to the world that people can walk all over you and your contracts. That's gonna work out for any future arrangements
 
It's not that complicated. Kamehacon doesn't have the clout to enforce their contracts.

They are a specialty con in the second year of their existence. If they sued these Dragon Ball voice actors, that would be a PR disaster for Kamehacon 2020 and beyond. Who from Funimation would appear at their event if they were in litigation with Monica Rial?
They've already got a fuck load of non Funimation VAs on the roster, shit they don't even have the current Goku on the guest list but no one seems to give a fuck.

This was their chance to go "look what gross shit these people try and pull behind the scenes, then they lie about safety concerns when they don't get their way". Instead they showed their belly and let Monica and a bunch of nobodies walk all over them...and then gave them their endorsement.
 
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