Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Immortal Technique]

What gets me is that by all intents and purposes, Soye should be a primo catch. He's a mortgage broker of some apparent local repute, and not that bad looking either. I have to wonder what sort of psychological trauma resulted in him being such a weak willed idiot when it comes to his relationships. Not to get all Freudian, but this just screams an abusive/over protective mother. He's used to having an older female think for him. He's projected this onto his own love life, and the ladies pick up on this. They know when a man wants a mom and not a wife. Which means Monica knows this too.

I would put 1 to 1 odds one of these is right: He's from a broken home raised by a single mother; where the father wasn't involved at all or even near by to help raise him. Or, he's the runt of the family, the awkward middle or youngest child, where the parents just didn't care anymore.

 

[LobotomizedFerret]

Maybe the reason KC is letting this go is because they know Rial and Co. are about to get raked over the coals by BHBH? Just a thought.

 

[Immortal Technique]

Maybe the reason KC is letting this go is because they know Rial and Co. are about to get raked over the coals by BHBH? Just a thought.

I'd wager that Vic coming generates more income than Rial leaving, and her Subway event poses no threat & isn't worth pursuing.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Ah yes, I've heard about that but not seen it. My theory on that is based partially on the rumor I've heard recently that vic once rented his girlfriend a seperate hotel room to be proper because he's a good christian man. (Read: he's a moralfag)

It starts with whatever you'd imagine to be vic's motive to not want to hug Jamie Marchi:

1. Vic knew an SJW is a walking lawsuit
2. Vic thought she was an immoral person and had a distate for her
3. Vic wasn't single at the time and wanted to be faithful by not getting too touchy with women
4. Vic wanted to keep it very extra professional with a coworker
5. Vic could've been a bit stiff (he's conservative and religious) and didn't want to be improper

Concerning #3: Remember that Vic admitted in the leaked io9 interview that there was at least one occasion where, during his relationship with his ex-fiancée, he cozied up to other girls (I think two) but they both decided to cut it out because one (Vic) or both of them were in relationships.

Of course, those incidents could easily be a product of moments of weakness as opposed to an intrinsic character defect, and the time of the video could have been after a turning point.

Concerning #4: both he and his then fiancée worked together in STC.

Of all these, I'm not betting on #5 given how lively he generally is with people, if only on camera.

Damn it, Ron, you ain't ugly. At least, you ain't any uglier than me. You can do better than that, because I can do better than that. C'mon, let's hit the bar this weekend and pick up some college chicks.

Hey, some of us like our women a bit older if y-- eight years?

That age gap, though.

He actually is a boy toy, holy shit.

A distinct possibility.

Also, I call a vote to revoke Ron's beta card.

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He is the first of the elite gamma male squad.
Their hats indicate they are either traitors to their declared cause or one of them is cross-dressing.

This man is literally hiding behind her-- I might be able to conjecture what was going through his mind, but the longer this minor probe goes on, the more I think one might be able to build an actual psychological profile on Toy Boye.

Nick just said that he's heard chatter about lawsuits getting filed right after KamehaCon.

https://twitter.com/KamehaCon/status/1113619201988661249

This is the worst fucking news i have heard. Makes me feel just stupid in having supported such pussies who couldn't even spine up into filing a SECOND LAWSUIT along with VIC. They had all the best situations they needed for winning it.

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The benefit to Kamehacon is getting out from under Rial and all her baked in Drama and that of her co conspirators. Chances are Monica greatly reduced her con invites going forward. Note Bubbacon "she wasn't invited". Does anybody think this would have been the case a few weeks ago? Before she became a public trashfire doing her best to light cons on fire? There will be a number of cons discovering that they don't need Monica in much the same way that they don't need AWL. Strangely enough the one thing that no employer ever wants from actors is Drama.

I just...

The people above me have brought up solid reasoning as to why they wouldn't want to actively pursue a lawsuit to stamp down a couple of VAs, and that's fine. But they actually decided to advertise their actually competing mini-con for them.

Why?

I haven't seen the con owners-- are you sure they're not just jellyfish?

 

[Burnout]

Doesn't Monica's contract mention that if ordered by a studio she's obligated to go that signing instead? If Sabat said that Funimation said that Rial and others had to go there, it would mean Kamehacon would have to eat crow and let them walk no problem. Of course that would open up Sabat or anyone telling Kamehacon to even further lawsuit fodder. Just thinking out loud.

Pretty sure not. the relevant part from Nick's video is around 21:25

 

[DrearyDoomguy]

Maybe the reason KC is letting this go is because they know Rial and Co. are about to get raked over the coals by BHBH? Just a thought.

They probably made a judgement call that they could go after her for the lost revenue but in the end she just isn't worth it. They got a business to run, were you in their position would you ignore the reality of the bottom line to sue someone over the principle of the thing? Lawsuits have a big price tag attached, probably bigger than any amount Rial and/or Toye could be legally compelled to cough up.

Who's to say they won't provide(or haven't already provided) The Beard with information behind the scenes, though?

 

[AnOminous]

Nick seems to be hinting the lawsuit drops the Monday after Kamehacon. Not sure if I am reading too much into that. It's at the end of this video.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Doesn't Monica's contract mention that if ordered by a studio she's obligated to go that signing instead? If Sabat said that Funimation said that Rial and others had to go there, it would mean Kamehacon would have to eat crow and let them walk no problem. Of course that would open up Sabat or anyone telling Kamehacon to even further lawsuit fodder. Just thinking out loud.

No! That provision for the studio is not with regards to competing events (save perhaps specific press and marketing events for a film or release). The main thing it is for is for things like reshoots. This is most common with live actors. Once a movie's primary photography wraps the actors calendar is free, but if the film needs reshoots or other pick up work they have to show up and have no real control over scheduling. So long as they aren't locked in to a similar scale project. (see; Superman's Mustache) . Funimation cannot just declare a competing signing across town. But if an acting job the actor is contracted to has a call back, that will supercede the con contract. Everybody understands that and no hard feelings.

 

[Burnout]

Nick seems to be hinting the lawsuit drops the Monday after Kamehacon. Not sure if I am reading too much into that. It's at the end of this video.

Spoiler: video

The way he did it felt so much like a mic drop too. I liked it.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Nick seems to be hinting the lawsuit drops the Monday after Kamehacon. Not sure if I am reading too much into that. It's at the end of this video.

Hmmm? I would bet it gets filed just under the wire that Friday. But a lot of that is my twisted dream that Rial and Toye get served in their autograph line.

 

[TheClappening]

"You know what would be a great time? The Monday after. Peace!"

<screen goes blank>

I got shivers.

In addition to his legal chops (which, not to sound mean, are probably just modest, especially since he's a guy in a small town) Nick's a pretty good showman. He knows how to keep people interested.

 

[I Love Beef]

Sorry I'm late. But I'm always late.

Regarding conventions and transportation, I'm going to make it very clear that anyone who goes to a convention usually doesn't want to leave unless they have chores to do for party rooms- And even then, they usually want to haul ass ASAP before the day is done and all of the fun is gone.

Plus, I'm going to vouch for everyone and say that especially for conventions, parking space is a major bitch to get, especially if you're staying nearby, and if you're trying to find a space on the active days.

Unless someone is that much of a dub otaku weeb or an SJW, and if they want to deal with the brilliance of disorganized and incompetent event organization out in a cramped hot, nerd ass stinking, and crowded hole in the wall out in the middle of Texas with some shitty parking, along with missing out on most of their convention, and the pain in the ass of inconvenience known as finding parking at conventions, no one is wanting to leave unless they really, really have to. Pre convention day, the devoted are the most prepared; they usually get rooms with kitchens, or bring coolers, and bring a fuckton of food and drink along with their luggage and necesscities to camp out in the hotel to make as a home base, and it's not the 2000s where teenagers and college kids merely bring pocky and instant ramen. Going out to restaurants is also reserved strictly for anywhere that's not a quarter of a mile out of reach, and anywhere further than that is reserved for the last day of the convention when everything winds down. When convention goers want to stay, they are going to stay, and nothing other than acts of god are going to turn them away from their hard earned weekend.

If anything, Kamehacon is playing this smart and putting on some damn good face, and as plenty of others have pointed out, they have their reasons. I interpret this as them turning the other cheek and informing people just so that they can let people know so that they can get the SJWs out, and for any fool looking for their misfortune, they can go out there to learn what a "shitty convention weekend" is per the definition if they want to meet those asshats that badly.

KickVic and Rial and friends really don't know anything about reality let alone anime fan and convention life, like the diseased genital mutilators they are. Anyone who follows them deserve everything that's coming to them.

 

[LobotomizedFerret]

They probably made a judgement call that they could go after her for the lost revenue but in the end she just isn't worth it. They got a business to run, were you in their position would you ignore the reality of the bottom line to sue someone over the principle of the thing? Lawsuits have a big price tag attached, probably bigger than any amount Rial and/or Toye could be legally compelled to cough up.

Who's to say they won't provide(or haven't already provided) The Beard with information behind the scenes, though?

Yeah, that's what I was trying to get at. They probably already gave all incriminating evidence to the Beard and decided to just get back to business.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Oh, by the way, concerning the alleged incident with Rial at Pensacon: I didn't look too much at the profile of the person who made the claim on Twitter, but do you perhaps think it was-- as you may say-- a double "gay ops"? Like, in the case it was fabricated, the purpose was to bait word spreaders who are less careful to corroborate details of their finds in favor of owning the SJEWS ebic style?

...kind of like that flurry about Shame allegedly getting honeypotted?

I'd be somewhat disappointed if it was (because it would involve many of those who stand with Vic touting non-facts, thus giving their opposition ammo), but how other main reporters on the controversy handle the allegation would help a lot in knowing who to care about.

 

[Urbanmech]

So caught up and wow ok so yea anyone else getting the feeling Monica's little event is going to net them possibly negative money due to distance/security cost (if they hired some people)/ and the fact they are competing with an actual Con?

And how bout them lawsuits getting filed on the 15th?

 

[Tard]

Someone made a good point that they could be doing this so that Monica and them cannot lie about KamehaCon trying to sabotage their event in anyway
They could try and scream if they get IRL trolled that KamehaCon endorsed it in some way, this way KamehaCon can remind them that they were supported and tell them to fuck off and they would be balatantly caught lying
TL;DR if their crappy security cannot stop someone telling Monica they support Vic than they cannot blame KamehaCon because KamehaCon supported her

 

[HeyYou]

So caught up and wow ok so yea anyone else getting the feeling Monica's little event is going to net them possibly negative money due to distance/security cost (if they hired some people)/ and the fact they are competing with an actual Con?

And how bout them lawsuits getting filed on the 15th?

She's still selling her merch, because of course.

 

[quickthrowaway]

No! That provision for the studio is not with regards to competing events (save perhaps specific press and marketing events for a film or release). The main thing it is for is for things like reshoots. This is most common with live actors. Once a movie's primary photography wraps the actors calendar is free, but if the film needs reshoots or other pick up work they have to show up and have no real control over scheduling. So long as they aren't locked in to a similar scale project. (see; Superman's Mustache) . Funimation cannot just declare a competing signing across town. But if an acting job the actor is contracted to has a call back, that will supercede the con contract. Everybody understands that and no hard feelings.

My mistake. Thanks for the insight.

 

[Nobleberry]

I hate the game called IRL. I keep trying to avoid playing it but it sucks me in.

I immediately thought he was talking about EVE.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I immediately thought he was talking about EVE.

EVE is a game played only by those who suck at IRL.