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I also have to wonder what back channel communications are buzzing so loudly that it has both Toye and Shane doing this spate of Twitter diarrhea both using the same talking points? This was a pattern we used to see back in Gamergate and to a lesser extent Comicsgate, where on a particular moment all the NPC’s Get a new script and sent out on simultaneous missions to broadcast the narrative.

Monica has already admitted that the Kamehacon chair is a friend of hers and Shane and Ron both have connections to multiple cons. The most intriguing question for me is who they tried to pull into this and through what channels.

Nick said that people would be shocked when they found out how high up the kickvics tried to take this. BubbaFest guy said that there are predators within the community and people would be surprised to learn who they are. I keep coming back to those two statements and wondering what the hell is under the surface that we have no inkling of yet. We know that these people are not driven by altruism.

The more he tweets now, the more that comes back at him under oath. And he is so fucking wrong. Under oath they are going to ask him, who are these dozens of women and where are their sworn afadavits? Name! Date! Location! Details! And he damn well better produce all of it, in excess of 24 named individuals, or he is fucked. And that’s just for one tweet. This shithead has hundreds of them.

And they're going to require him to answer those questions for every tweet.

That's not even taking into account him repeatedly claiming "sexual assault" and then trying to walk it back to "Vic was creepy/inappropriate" without retracting the original statements.

Yeah, that’s almost certainly Renfamous. It has her unhinged and unfiltered vileness about it.

I'm still mystified why she wants him to "debate" her. Surely the courtroom is the only appropriate venue for any "debate" about Vic's actions now. Guess the bitch doesn't have the balls to enter that arena.
 
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Yeah, that’s almost certainly Renfamous. It has her unhinged and unfiltered vileness about it.
Speaking of which...

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I'm almost convinced this is a BlueOrca sock puppet, I haven't heard any whalesong for a few days but this cretin has been barking non stop. Has anyone been able to link this account to any other place like PULL or youtube? I hadn't seen anything from them until after the great harpooning and the statement of her having a "plan". I wouldn't put it past her to think that using a sock puppet makes her immune to any potential defamation actions or being told to retract everything.

I was going to say this when I was behind 40 pages, but figured someone else already head and didn't want to repeat it, but I suppose I have to go on record saying I think RbW is BlueBeluga too so I can point and laugh when he gets busted. The way they hinted at a legal education is what does it for me.
 
I wonder if he's losing his mind because he realizes that if this goes to court, it's inevitable that the entire world will get to know as a proven fact that he was cucked by Vic's big dick, that his fiancee fucked Vic and that he is a cuck, and he will have to live forevermore wearing the horns of cuckoldry.

Wherever he goes, he will never be able to hold his head high, because as he passes, everyone will nod sadly: "yup, there goes that cuck again."

Remember, one cannot be a cuck without allowing themselves to be one.

Cuckoldry does not come from simply having a SO cheat on you; it comes from you letting it happen.
 
Not even sworn statements. They must be prepared to testify. That’s going to be Funimation big problem as well when they come out with “we had reports of dozens of women complaining” that all came to them through the rumor mill. If they can’t “lay hands” on the victims to get testimony from them, they are fucked. And Soy Boy is too stupid to realize it.

I also have to wonder what back channel communications are buzzing so loudly that it has both Toye and Shane doing this spate of Twitter diarrhea both using the same talking points? This was a pattern we used to see back in Gamergate and to a lesser extent Comicsgate, where on a particular moment all the NPC’s Get a new script and sent out on simultaneous missions to broadcast the narrative. After discovering the GameJournosPro Google group the gamers new that there were other similar collaborative channels out there. But they never had legal cause or means to unearth them. Whereas BHBH sure as shit does. Shane May be worthless and penniless, but dragging him through Discovery would be useful in finding those hidden hubs. He seems a well connected, if broadly disliked moron. And he’s made enough public claims that it could be justified.
Agree, he's said too much crap that was in private from other parties not to be in some whisper group. Wouldn't be surprised if its the same one that was trying to give him info during Nicks stream.
 
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You know, I don't think that Soye et al are that stupid enough to keep doing this.
Maybe just maybe, they are banking on Vic's magnanimous forgiving nature. Maybe the are just waiting for them to be serve papers then call up Vic then ask to forgive them and withdraw the suit.
Then after that, they will go on twitter that they are friends with Vic again that misunderstanding is cleared up, etc etc etc.

They got to destroy Vic's life and get away with it if that happens.
 
Ron’s rantings are just more of same. He is an ongoing font of nonstop defamation. BHBH will note that in their filings. And probably ask for an immediate injunction on his continued defamation.

That is an unusual and extreme remedy, but so is the behavior. Generally injunctions against continued defamation are disfavored, and invariably raise issues of prior restraint under the First Amendment.

There may be enough here to weigh in favor of it, though. It's also a question of how much money to spend on such things. TROs on defamation are quite often ex parte, that is, without the other party present, and require all the evidence in favor of the TRO be presented up front all at once and, for that matter, the moving party is obligated to argue any facts or law in favor of the party not present.

This generally requires putting together a rather large dossier within a period of a few hours to a couple of days, sometimes hundreds or even thousands of pages long, as well as a full brief of all the issues, and then putting together multiple bound copies of what is often multiple volumes of legal argument and evidence. It's not at all unusual to have several piles of documents several feet high for this kind of thing, and then you have to serve a paper copy on everyone in the suit who would be affected by it, as well as for the court.

So you could easily be out thousands just on printing costs.

Then if you actually get the injunction, you usually have to put up a bond, $10,000 being a bare minimum of the kind of thing you'd have to put up, and this is held in escrow by the court. If it turns out you filed in bad faith or even just that you lose and the injunction being in place damaged the party it was filed against, you forfeit that toward damages and may have to pay additional damages.

It's a pretty expensive process, or at least can be, although in this case, SoyeBoye has really gone out of his way to provide all the evidence needed. The legal argument part of it is still tough and still has to be done on absurdly short notice and this kind of stuff is expensive.

And then, the TRO is issued with an expire by date for a lengthier hearing shortly thereafter, so it may only buy you a few days before you have to have yet another hearing on it. Now, if you win that, you have a temporary injunction that continues throughout the pendency of the case. If you ultimately win the case, you may end up with a permanent injunction.

Another issue is that the granting (or denial) of a preliminary injunction is a matter immediately appealable, so the issue could end up in an appeals court before the case is even decided.

Anyway, those are issues BHBH has to take into consideration when deciding whether it's worth seeking an injunction right at the outset and, if it is worth it, whether it's worth seeking on an emergency basis to take effect immediately, a more arduous undertaking.
 
You know, I don't think that Soye et al are that stupid enough to keep doing this.
Maybe just maybe, they are banking on Vic's magnanimous forgiving nature. Maybe the are just waiting for them to be serve papers then call up Vic then ask to forgive them and withdraw the suit.
Then after that, they will go on twitter that they are friends with Vic again that misunderstanding is cleared up, etc etc etc.

They got to destroy Vic's life and get away with it if that happens.
except if they say misunderstanding then he gets his life back because they admit that they know the behavior isn't sexual in nature, which removes any reason to harass vic.

after that, vic has the lawsuit to make sure they stay in line. just because its a different case doesn't mean the evidence gathered can't be used for character assassination in a new trial.
 
Twitter will provide whatever is requested when they get a formal legal order.
However, until then they're "neutral". It'll be interesting to see what Zucks cuck move will do to social media (for those that don't know Zuck has asked the Feds to moderate FB LOL).
 
So would all of Ron's latest messages delay the summons filing? He is posting so much more foolish things that maybe he thinks he can get a win this way. Like, see I didn't get anything on the 15th so everyone is lying. There is no lawsuit.
Also, his part about Vic just needs to apologize and all will be better. So he is now speaking for these supposed 30 to 100+ women and they all think an apology will make everything ok? It just doesn't make any sense.

Here's the thing. When Ron gets deposed, he MUST again claim that Vic is guilty, that he's known about it for years, (EDIT: HE EXPLICITLY MENTIONED SEXUAL ASSAULT,) that he's seen the Funi report... pretty much restate what he put in that ethics complaint word for word or he's fucked himself with perjury. From there he'll simply be told to prove it. If he can't, and again remember he's already sworn under oath on the ethics complaint that it's true, then he's liable for defamation. It really can't be much simpler and he doesn't even realize how badly he's fucked himself.
 
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Here's the thing. When Ron gets deposed, he MUST again claim that Vic is guilty, that he's known about it for years, that he's seen the Funi report... pretty much restate what he put in that ethics complaint word for word or he's fucked himself with perjury. From there he'll simply be told to prove it. If he can't, and again remember he's already sworn under oath on the ethics complaint that it's, then he's liable for defamation. It really can't be much simpler and he doesn't even realize how badly he's fucked himself.

Ron's problem is that he has no direct knowledge of anything he's alleging. He admits as much in his tweets. His defamatory statements don't arise from events he personally witnessed in some way, or even from contemporaneous statements made to him by others about those events at the time they allegedly occurred.

Every single time he's asked how he "knows" any of the things he alleges to be true about Vic - and that is going to be many, many times - he's going to have to admit that he has no personal knowledge and made his defamatory statements on the basis of unsubstantiated rumour.
 
Here's the thing. When Ron gets deposed, he MUST again claim that Vic is guilty, that he's known about it for years, that he's seen the Funi report... pretty much restate what he put in that ethics complaint word for word or he's fucked himself with perjury. From there he'll simply be told to prove it. If he can't, and again remember he's already sworn under oath on the ethics complaint that it's true, then he's liable for defamation. It really can't be much simpler and he doesn't even realize how badly he's fucked himself.
Makes me wonder. How much soy lube do prisons in Texas provide?
 
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