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So in the overall scheme of things, does Allison Cooke's actions make her the Gavrilo Princip of the Weeb Wars?

Superkooter said:
Is is this gonna be the new "gamergate" ie. something we'll keep hearing about 5 years from now and have everything blamed on?
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If the American dubbing industry suffers at all from this, it will.
 
Is Null actually following this vic case? Because it seems they are going to talk about it on the stream and i don't know if he is following it.
 
Superkooter said:
Is is this gonna be the new "gamergate" ie. something we'll keep hearing about 5 years from now and have everything blamed on?
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Get used to it.

Any time normal people kick back against these scum is going to be treated as some kind of Nazism.

That's just how these scum work.
 
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Jack Atlas said:
Is Null actually following this vic case? Because it seems they are going to talk about it on the stream and i don't know if he is following it.
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Nope he's not. It sounds more like they're going to be talking about the Kiwi farms. This bit all got kicked off by Skye getting doxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxed, and people screeching at Nick to control Kiwi Farms. So he's bringing on Josh to just talk about Kiwi Farms in general and not the weeb wars in particular.
 
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Superkooter said:
Is is this gonna be the new "gamergate" ie. something we'll keep hearing about 5 years from now and have everything blamed on?
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Nah. GamerGate is already the GamerGate, and it got far more coverage among the normie press than this has.

So far, anyway. Maybe this will be made into a Law & Order episode too some day, and we'll re-evaluate then.
 
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OneHandClapping said:
It's also because he came in as a complete neutral party to this madness. Some people might be swayed to one side or another because they're fans of Vid or Todd or Monica or Marchie of Sabatage (or the inverse, they don't like those people and are swayed to the opposite).

Nick came in with only his law knowledge and started picking the situation apart. He looks at it from a legal perspective, which, no offense to people like Hero Hei or Tug or Emo, no one else has. He's good with his information. Like, how many people saw his predictions for Kamehacon and Ty Beard, and are now fully convinced April 15th is D-Day?

I would say that he's entertaining, and while he is, most of the entertainment value is looking at the utter idiocy coming from the other side. But even he's able to put that to good use.
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True, it's no wonder he's become such a big figurehead to those that stand with Vic because he got both the charisma, skills and authority to some extent to debate and argue against the movement. They are scared shitless of him and call him a youtube or "blackface Lawyer because they want to discredit his credibility as a lawyer because he is one, and because of that he can do insane damage to their movement. They've also attacked Ty and tried to remove him from his job and he IS Vic's Lawyer and he's a not one to be fucked with. What a retarded thing to. because they are gonna hit back and it's gonna hurt harder than hell. Youtube personalities have been a colossal help but when the court case happens, that's when everyone including Nick are gonna have to step down let the lawsuit begins.

And speaking of people being neutral on the matter, a lot of people with common sense listen to both sides before coming to the conclusion that they want to join a side or observe or GTFO because most of the Kickivic'er just jumped to conclusions and became nutjobs.
 
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Least Concern said:
Nah. GamerGate is already the GamerGate, and it got far more coverage among the normie press than this has.
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And it's going to (mostly) stay that way for a while, because nobody wants to touch the scalding hot cat that that is the run-up to litigation.
 
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I gave up on the GW when they started killing the different playstyle armies. It was nice playing stuff that did something totally different from other armies.
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The last time I played 40k was at a friend's house in...I want to say 2002 or 2003, I guess a new edition had come out. I played some in college in the 80s, when it was Rogue Trader, and we'd just say "Okay you have 20 orks (usually like 5 assembled plastic orks and then a bunch of D&D figures, pennies, bottlecaps, whatever was handy), I have 20 space marines (same), lets fight." but when I played it was like, okay there's 5 types of scenario you can play, 5 was you can set up the mapboard, that's it, period. Felt kind of disappointing.

The guy I gamed with though had some beautiful Genestealer minis (tyrranids?) and Imperial Fists, tanks, etc. so that was fun.
 
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True, it's no wonder he's become such a big figurehead to those that stand with Vic because he got both the charisma, skills and authority to some extent to debate and argue against the movement. They are scared shitless of him and call him a youtube or "blackface Lawyer because they want to discredit his credibility as a lawyer because he is one, and because of that he can do insane damage to their movement. They've also attacked Ty and tried to remove him from his job and he IS Vic's Lawyer and he's a not one to be fucked with. What a exceptional thing to. because they are gonna hit back and it's gonna hurt harder than hell. Youtube personalities have been a colossal help but when the court case happens, that's when everyone including Nick are gonna have to step down let the lawsuit begins.

And speaking of people being neutral on the matter, a lot of people with common sense listen to both sides before coming to the conclusion that they want to join a side or observe or GTFO because most of the Kickivic'er just jumped to conclusions and became nutjobs.
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I wasn't really following gg or comicsgate, but i did take some time to read back over it recently. The other big stark difference ive noticed is that with the weeb wars the content creation has been wholly and solely on the ISWV side. There hasn't been shit from Kick beyond screeching on twatter, and the big names have solely focused on offline gayops against vic which they've been seemingly caught for constantly.

edit: except the 3? articles that have been done, but they've been called out and stomped on ruthlessly
 
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Éire-Ice36 said:
Youtube personalities have been a colossal help but when the court case happens, that's when everyone including Nick are gonna have to step down let the lawsuit begins.
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They still could be useful in promoting the GoFundMe (the goal still needs to be met) or helping convince conventions to invite Vic (or even Todd Haberkorn or Reuben Langdon).

Plus, there is Haberkorn Gaiden. I know not much has been said on it (save for Monica Rial's "professionalism" at Zenkaikon), but we have to remind ourselves that Todd's situation is still very much relevant. I think Todd is paying close attention to what happens with Vic.
 
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The last time I played 40k was at a friend's house in...I want to say 2002 or 2003, I guess a new edition had come out. I played some in college in the 80s, when it was Rogue Trader, and we'd just say "Okay you have 20 orks (usually like 5 assembled plastic orks and then a bunch of D&D figures, pennies, bottlecaps, whatever was handy), I have 20 space marines (same), lets fight." but when I played it was like, okay there's 5 types of scenario you can play, 5 was you can set up the mapboard, that's it, period. Felt kind of disappointing.

The guy I gamed with though had some beautiful Genestealer minis (tyrranids?) and Imperial Fists, tanks, etc. so that was fun.
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yea used to play Chaos Daemons in 5th edition and they would just deepstrike in and cause well chaos. It was great for the opponents and I to see if I misshaped or got the roll I needed, this big risk/reward scenario. I didn't invest anything when 6th edition came out and waited till Daemons got their Codex/white Dwarf update. I knew they were going to kill my fun army some way, they did the same thing to Tomb Kings in 8th Fantasy and made them like any other race. And sure enough they turned into a walking across the board army. So I kind of just dropped GW stuff for the most part, may still play the occasional VG but not really into the TT anymore.
 
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ProtecSpeedwagon said:
Nope he's not. It sounds more like they're going to be talking about the Kiwi farms. This bit all got kicked off by Skye getting doxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxed, and people screeching at Nick to control Kiwi Farms. So he's bringing on Josh to just talk about Kiwi Farms in general and not the weeb wars in particular.
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He'll probably get a TLDR, Nick has talked about KickVic stuff with Null before (mainly the blue whale sperging about this thread).
 
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5t3n0g0ph3r said:
They still could be useful in promoting the GoFundMe (the goal still needs to be met) or helping convince conventions to invite Vic (or even Todd Haberkorn or Reuben Langdon).

Plus, there is Haberkorn Gaiden. I know not much has been said on it (save for Monica Rial's "professionalism" at Zenkaikon), but we have to remind ourselves that Todd's situation is still very much relevant. I think Todd is paying close attention to what happens with Vic.
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Half and half, they could do more to promote it but at the same time getting 200k is harder than 100k. That said I am sure there are some that are covering for Todd and Monica's dick move just activated the Beard's trap card, Iago is FUCKED! Also, one of the Amazons are gonna drag Jessie to Texas and She's not off the hook either. I am pretty sure that Vic and Todd have a deal with the beard in dealing with those those cunts because they are their mutual enemies.

With Vic being such a big lightning Rod for attacks, It does protect Todd to some extent but not from all of it and with KV clearly forgetting that he's also Ty's Client, they've made a big mistake in committing TI and it's gonna start a Domino effect ones discovery begins.
 
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